Stop the boats. 5k a head. (cont. in Part 2)

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No he raised the same old methods that got us into the problem in the first place.

Tell me what new ideas has he brought up that Rudd didn't?
Like I said - why don't you actually read what I wrote, rather than asking Bosun to do it for you?

You and Mottrain are so one-eyed you somehow think I wrote down Labor's previous policy. Cuckoo stuff.
 

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Like I said - why don't you actually read what I wrote, rather than asking Bosun to do it for you?

You and Mottrain are so one-eyed you somehow think I wrote down Labor's previous policy. Cuckoo stuff.
I read your post. I felt like I had gone back in time to 2007. Your ideas seems like a mix of Howard and Rudd. Why not just go full Howard and be done with it? Whats the point of half assing it?

Your compassion simply encourages people to pay people smugglers. It gets them dead or in detention.
 

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So it's "our" turn to implement a policy that doesn't work. Sound logic, from such a non partisan poster.
Actually so far Abbott's, like Howard's, plan has ha a dramatic reduction in the number of boats. As the influx of people has fallen I expect the number in detention falls as they get processed. Just like with Howard.

The figures for 2014 will be very interesting.

So far the only policy that has not worked was the one implemented by Rudd. It was so bad it actually created a crisis where there wasn't one before.
 

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So far the only policy that has not worked was the one implemented by Rudd. It was so bad it actually created a crisis where there wasn't one before.
LOL. There's that fear mongering again.

Nowhere near the quantity involved in the "Europeans illegally overstaying their VISA" crisis.
 

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LOL. There's that fear mongering again.

Nowhere near the quantity involved in the "Europeans illegally overstaying their VISA" crisis.
Your always crying about people in detention.

http://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliam...entary_library/pubs/bn/2012-2013/boatarrivals

Well look how many people were in detention by the end of Howard's term.

Now look many were in detention under Rudd. Thats your 'solutions' in action.

How many do you think will be in detention by the end of Abbott's term? Even if its just 2 years away?

Your cry and cry and cry about people in detention but you never solve it just make the problem worse.

This is why your sidelined because you are irrelevant. All bitching no solutions.
 
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LOL. There's that fear mongering again.

Nowhere near the quantity involved in the "Europeans illegally overstaying their VISA" crisis.
You don't see this as a crisis?



Note, those are drownings, not arrivals. The one that stands out in the Howard years is SIEV X. Changing the policy was demonstrably a complete ****up by Rudd.

http://www.smh.com.au/data-point/the-human-tide
 

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Your always crying about people in detention.

http://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliam...entary_library/pubs/bn/2012-2013/boatarrivals

Well look how many people were in detention by the end of Howard's term.

Now look many were in detention under Rudd. Thats your 'solutions' in action.

How many do you think will be in detention by the end of Abbott's term? Even if its just 2 years away?

Your cry and cry and cry about people in detention but you never solve it just make the problem worse.

This is why your sidelined because you are irrelevant. All bitching no solutions.
I have never, ever, posted about people in detention. Please feel free to provide a quote to back up your wild, unfounded, claims/post.
 

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You don't see this as a crisis?



Note, those are drownings, not arrivals. The one that stands out in the Howard years is SIEV X. Changing the policy was demonstrably a complete ****up by Rudd.

http://www.smh.com.au/data-point/the-human-tide
Please provide statistics of arrivals vs drownings as a percentage. Naturally there will be more drownings if there are more boats.

It would be interesting to see the number of returned boats where occupants are still alive as well but sadly those figures don't exist.
 

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I have never, ever, posted about people in detention. Please feel free to provide a quote to back up your wild, unfounded, claims/post.
If you feel I have unfairly characterized your position then how about you state what your position actually is?

The same question was asked of me and I stated exactly where I stand on all these issues.
 

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You don't see this as a crisis?



Note, those are drownings, not arrivals. The one that stands out in the Howard years is SIEV X. Changing the policy was demonstrably a complete ****up by Rudd.

http://www.smh.com.au/data-point/the-human-tide
Love it when people reply to others post and bring in something different. How does this relate to "Europeans illegally overstaying their VISA"?
 

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Love it when people reply to others post and bring in something different. How does this relate to "Europeans illegally overstaying their VISA"?
Fairs fair. The quoted posted didn't relate to what it was quoting either.

What does "Europeans illegally overstaying their VISA" and "fear mongering" have to do with a comparison of the effectiveness between Howard's and Rudd's immigration policies in regards to asylum seekers?

You ought to know you 'liked' the post.
 
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Please provide statistics of arrivals vs drownings as a percentage. Naturally there will be more drownings if there are more boats.

It would be interesting to see the number of returned boats where occupants are still alive as well but sadly those figures don't exist.
You can look at boats and arrivals as well on the SMH link I provided.

Love it when people reply to others post and bring in something different. How does this relate to "Europeans illegally overstaying their VISA"?
MaxZero: There was a crisis
Jiska: Nowhere near the quantity involved in the "Europeans illegally overstaying their VISA" crisis.
NB: context.
 
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