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Coming up to our biggest final ever I had to bump this thread in appreciation of Subans importance to the team at the moment.

Our most important games of the last couple of months were probably the Carlton and Geelong games and having watched both three times now the impact Suban is starting to have on games is very noticeable. This guy is built for finals football and his decision making and disposal by foot is a huge weapon for us. He is becoming like Hill in terms of the hurt factor per disposal and when you combine that with his ferocious tackling and attack on the ball it is a brilliant combination to have in a pressure game - especially in the absence of Clancee. Showing again why he was my favourite player a couple of years back and the boy from Bacchus Marsh would now have to be top two in our most improved players this season along with Clarke. Still slipping under the radar of other teams, Suban could easily be the difference in the coming weeks if we manage it.
 
Coming up to our biggest final ever I had to bump this thread in appreciation of Subans importance to the team at the moment.

Our most important games of the last couple of months were probably the Carlton and Geelong games and having watched both three times now the impact Suban is starting to have on games is very noticeable. This guy is built for finals football and his decision making and disposal by foot is a huge weapon for us. He is becoming like Hill in terms of the hurt factor per disposal and when you combine that with his ferocious tackling and attack on the ball it is a brilliant combination to have in a pressure game - especially in the absence of Clancee. Showing again why he was my favourite player a couple of years back and the boy from Bacchus Marsh would now have to be top two in our most improved players this season along with Clarke. Still slipping under the radar of other teams, Suban could easily be the difference in the coming weeks if we manage it.

100% agree, Going to claim the fact that i always thought he was a decent player and never bagged him.
 

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Coming up to our biggest final ever I had to bump this thread in appreciation of Subans importance to the team at the moment.

Our most important games of the last couple of months were probably the Carlton and Geelong games and having watched both three times now the impact Suban is starting to have on games is very noticeable. This guy is built for finals football and his decision making and disposal by foot is a huge weapon for us. He is becoming like Hill in terms of the hurt factor per disposal and when you combine that with his ferocious tackling and attack on the ball it is a brilliant combination to have in a pressure game - especially in the absence of Clancee. Showing again why he was my favourite player a couple of years back and the boy from Bacchus Marsh would now have to be top two in our most improved players this season along with Clarke. Still slipping under the radar of other teams, Suban could easily be the difference in the coming weeks if we manage it.


As dennis commetti says centimeter perfect every 1%er counts
 
The one thing i really like about Suban is his hardness. Everything he does has an aggression that alot of players cannot deal with.

Also his game in the wet seems to be a massive plus, he seems to have a blinder when the clouds let rip. Very similar to DeBoer, just tough and hard with a bit of finesse when it counts.
 
He was pivotal in the second quarter of the QF. Winning contests in the middle, delivering pin point passes into forward 50, he really stood up and alongside Barlow was one of our bests, until he went off injured.

He has always been my favourite but consistency was an issue for him. I believe he'll show us how important he is to our side in the prelim. Love the guy. You know he will always be hard at it....just wish he didn't get caught HTB as much as he does, but other than that, one of my favourites for sure.
 
The one thing i really like about Suban is his hardness. Everything he does has an aggression that alot of players cannot deal with.

Also his game in the wet seems to be a massive plus, he seems to have a blinder when the clouds let rip. Very similar to DeBoer, just tough and hard with a bit of finesse when it counts.

Yep, and when the game starts to drift and become a bit sluggish and stagnant I've noticed he makes a huge effort to break lines, taking players on and breaking tackles to try and get something happening. Doesn't always come off but I love that attitude, it's the same trait that I love most about Ballantyne.

Has slowly but surely developed his game quite nicely, as good outside as he is inside.
 
He was pivotal in the second quarter of the QF. Winning contests in the middle, delivering pin point passes into forward 50, he really stood up and alongside Barlow was one of our bests, until he went off injured.

He has always been my favourite but consistency was an issue for him. I believe he'll show us how important he is to our side in the prelim. Love the guy. You know he will always be hard at it....just wish he didn't get caught HTB as much as he does, but other than that, one of my favourites for sure.

I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I swear Suban has done something to aggravate the entire umpires association, I've never seen anyone receive the ball, get immediately tackled by multiple opposition players holding the footy to him and get done HTB so often.
 
I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I swear Suban has done something to aggravate the entire umpires association, I've never seen anyone receive the ball, get immediately tackled by multiple opposition players holding the footy to him and get done HTB so often.

He must be rooting the Giesch's daughter...surely.
 
I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I swear Suban has done something to aggravate the entire umpires association, I've never seen anyone receive the ball, get immediately tackled by multiple opposition players holding the footy to him and get done HTB so often.


His problem is he doesn't bother to fake. You can deliberately go to ground with the ball as long as you flop around like a dying fish pretending to try get it out.

You know you're pretending, the crowd knows you're pretending, and the umpires know you're pretending, but if you don't do it you get pinged for not pretending.

As a down-to-earth country boy Subes obviously doesn't stand for that fake shit, unfortunately for him the game is umpired solely on how well you can act these days.
 
His problem is he doesn't bother to fake. You can deliberately go to ground with the ball as long as you flop around like a dying fish pretending to try get it out.

You know you're pretending, the crowd knows you're pretending, and the umpires know you're pretending, but if you don't do it you get pinged for not pretending.

As a down-to-earth country boy Subes obviously doesn't stand for that fake shit, unfortunately for him the game is umpired solely on how well you can act these days.

It's a farce isn't it? It's really the one rule I want rectified this off-season, this "making a genuine attempt" makes an absolute mockery of the word "genuine".

Hell even if they did make a "genuine" attempt, when you're pinned to the ground underneath several tacklers and they're all trying to hold the footy desperately to you as they're trying to win the free for themselves, that ball just aint coming out fella.

Another unsavory result of this interpretation is the league wide throwing epidemic of recent years, as long as the game flows it seems anything goes and to hell with incorrect disposal.
 

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Hell even if they did make a "genuine" attempt, when you're pinned to the ground underneath several tacklers and they're all trying to hold the footy desperately to you as they're trying to win the free for themselves, that ball just aint coming out fella.


The ironic thing is it's often the guys who really are making a genuine attempt who get pinged because their opponent drags it back in after they get it out.

You're actually better off pretending to try get it out without actually doing it, since umps seem completely incapable of noticing it was the other guy who pulled it back under you.

Whatever happened to that supposed rule of a free kick against them if the opposition drags it in? Most new rules they over-apply, at least initially, but this one I don't remember ever getting used.
 
The ironic thing is it's often the guys who really are making a genuine attempt who get pinged because their opponent drags it back in after they get it out.

You're actually better off pretending to try get it out without actually doing it, since umps seem completely incapable of noticing it was the other guy who pulled it back under you.

Whatever happened to that supposed rule of a free kick against them if the opposition drags it in? Most new rules they over-apply, at least initially, but this one I don't remember ever getting used.

Pretty sure simulation is something that is supposed to be worthy of a free kick against but that didn't stop the umps from interrupting Stevie J's Academy Award worthy theatrics a few weeks back.
 

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