Opinion Suban

[Memories]

He's too much of a confidence player.

So would you be if you were short (for a footballer), slow and lack defensive awareness (why he plays better forward).

 

[Bradesmaen]

One bad game and people are ready to hang him.

 

[Kram]

Delist.

 

[Carnthedockers]

I think Lachie Neale has to start ahead of him. 1 good week and 3 average ones. We need to continue to get minutes into Sutcliffe, really rate this guy.

 

[Bradesmaen]

I think Lachie Neale has to start ahead of him. 1 good week and 3 average ones. We need to continue to get minutes into Sutcliffe, really rate this guy.

Sutcliffe seems to be better as a burst player. Thought he was ordinary today.

 

[FreoRicci]

At the moment, Sutcliffe and Neale are better prospects then Subes. We will keep continuing to build up Sutty's endurance and he will come good. His kicking at the start of his appearances for Bombers and Bulldogs was brilliant so it's a case of getting fitter. Maybe Suban should move back to the forward of centre type role? He did very well there end of last season and impacted the game. His long kicking as well as ferociousness will help the forwards more IMO.

 

[ritz]

It's a real concern what to do with Suban. I thought it was simply going to be another case of 'losing the fat arse and buying in' ala sonny and clancee. Where they stop coasting and start applying 110%.
So Suban bought in, lost the weight and become one of the hardest trainers, and top runners at the club this pre-season.
And yet, last week, 10 disposals. This week 2 in a half of a game.
I know he got 20 disposals in round 1 and 2 but 2 in a half is unacceptable.
There's no point in just playing him as the Sub every week. He now has the fitness.
His best position seems to be half forward but we have a plethora of options there who are arguably more versatile than Suban.

 

[Moo]

Just play the better footballer and the form footballer -at the moment that is Neale

 

[estibador]

Lachie will take his spot and play every game for the rest of the season.

It took my buddy a while to get going, but you can't keep class down for long.

 

[Bradesmaen]

It's a real concern what to do with Suban. I thought it was simply going to be another case of 'losing the fat arse and buying in' ala sonny and clancee. Where they stop coasting and start applying 110%.
So Suban bought in, lost the weight and become one of the hardest trainers, and top runners at the club this pre-season.
And yet, last week, 10 disposals. This week 2 in a half of a game.
I know he got 20 disposals in round 1 and 2 but 2 in a half is unacceptable.
There's no point in just playing him as the Sub every week. He now has the fitness.
His best position seems to be half forward but we have a plethora of options there who are arguably more versatile than Suban.

He wasn't the only one struggling to get his hand on it in the first quarter or the entire game. Sutcliffe had 10.. he gets that in a last quarter most times. Mzungu had 14 and let his opponent have 28 and kick 2 goals. Pearce had 15, De Boer had just 11 and did nothing much else, nor did he really nullify anyone.

 

[theGav56]

Just play the better footballer and the form footballer -at the moment that is Neale

That is simple and clearly the best way to go about it. It also sends a clear message to Suban and every other player on our list. Give Suban some really good feedback about what he needs to do, and see how he goes about it. We have enough depth in his particular skill set, so use it.

 

[Nickos66]

Subes's gonna need to cut it up for Claremont and score some BoG's before he's given another chance after yesterday's 2 possie stunner.

 

[whiteoak]

First time that I can recall seeing Lyon call out an individual player after a game.

God only knows what the spray was like behind closed doors.

 

[Lach72]

"We subbed him out because he wasn't doing much."

Right between the eyes. He was anonymous, which is bizarre given his first 2 weeks.

 

[Nickos66]

Que Junglemuffin posting about something to do with silly moos.. or is it moo silly moomoo silly's or something along these lines.

 

[Dockernut]

First time that I can recall seeing Lyon call out an individual player after a game.

God only knows what the spray was like behind closed doors.

What did RTB say publicly? I missed that.

 

[paul8241]

What did RTB say publicly? I missed that.

It's what he didn't say that matters.

He did not say "Suban was anonymous today."

What RTB did say was that "Suban wasn't giving us anything."

Anonymous might have sounded better.

 

[freoextra]

It's what he didn't say that matters.

He did not say "Suban was anonymous today."

What RTB did say was that "Suban wasn't giving us anything."

Anonymous might have sounded better.

Get the impression that there was real disappointment from the coach towards a player that has bought in but is fading fast and just really struggles with being consistent.

I also think Subes is not doing himself any favours by giving up the 'in the back' free kicks - it is great to be trying your guts out but be smart about it.

Not the end, but he needs to take his weaknesses on board and get better at WAFL level.

 

[Carnthedockers]

First time that I can recall seeing Lyon call out an individual player after a game.

God only knows what the spray was like behind closed doors.

I thought exactly the same thing, very unusual. Maybe he feels that certain players require this kind of treatment.

 

[electricfeel]

Suban needed that. Needs to step up big time and RTB is going to keep pushing and pushing him until we see some consistency.

 

[strobe00]

I thought exactly the same thing, very unusual. Maybe he feels that certain players require this kind of treatment.

Hard to believe maybe, but I reckon it was just frustration.

Reckon Ross didn't feel like making excuses at the time and couldn't be bothered formulating a politically correct response. Maybe it's deliberate, strategic tough love. But I reckon he'd just had the sh*ts.

 

[caterina]

Hard to believe maybe, but I reckon it was just frustration.

Reckon Ross didn't feel like making excuses at the time and couldn't be bothered formulating a politically correct response. Maybe it's deliberate, strategic tough love. But I reckon he'd just had the sh*ts.

I didn't like it, I love Ross but it was the coaching equivalent to the crowd booing your own player - I can't see how this is going to do Suban any good. I've no problem with subbing him off but the commentary was uncalled for IMO - I can only hope that he spoke to Suban in person to tell him what he did wrong before the press conference.

 

[jusjoshin]

The way I read it was that it was a kick in the arse for Suban. He knows he's going back to the WAFL for a stint. I think Ross is trying to light a fire in his belly. He's like Duffield, in that he looks a million times better when he's had his angry pills.

 

[Nothing]

I didn't like it, I love Ross but it was the coaching equivalent to the crowd booing your own player - I can't see how this is going to do Suban any good. I've no problem with subbing him off but the commentary was uncalled for IMO - I can only hope that he spoke to Suban in person to tell him what he did wrong before the press conference.

The Sports Psychologist would have worked out the best way to motivate Suban, a haul over the coals, publically, will do better for some than others. It will be eating him up and I think he will put in some fantastic showings in the next few rounds (in the WAFL).

 

[Wigarus]

I didn't like it, I love Ross but it was the coaching equivalent to the crowd booing your own player - I can't see how this is going to do Suban any good. I've no problem with subbing him off but the commentary was uncalled for IMO - I can only hope that he spoke to Suban in person to tell him what he did wrong before the press conference.

Was this on the tv or his post game presser?

I can't see anything on the net that is really that bad...