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I've lost a few mates along the course, including two in the last year. It's a shitty feeling, you always wonder if you could have done anything? Then you go and watch parents bury their kids which is just f***ing heartbreaking.
I can't imagine somebodies state of mind knowing that they will put everybody through this, they still choose to kill themselves. It most be some terrible private hell they are living through.
 

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j2kboiz said:
I've known enough people close to me who have suffered depression and suicidal thoughts as well as attempting the act itself. I know enough thanks anyway.
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I see. So because they may leave you behind they are selfish cowards, right? Ever considered that it's not about you? And to make it about you in fact makes you the selfish one.
 
j2kboiz said:
It's not about me. It's about the act itself. Simply a cowards way out.
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If it's about the act, why are you calling people cowards? Anyway, who the **** are you to question people's decisions? You display no understanding of being human, which disqualifies you from making any comment. For you to validly accuse another of being a coward would require you to have an understanding you've never possessed, and never will.
 
skilts said:
If it's about the act, why are you calling people cowards? Anyway, who the **** are you to question people's decisions? You display no understanding of being human, which disqualifies you from making any comment. For you to validly accuse another of being a coward would require you to have an understanding you've never possessed, and never will.
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Because it's a cowards way out. Life isn't easy and everyone goes through good and bad times, although many go into dark places that others haven't been or will ever go to. I have seen the effects it has on families and as I already said have had people very close to me go through such ordeals.
 
j2kboiz said:
Because it's a cowards way out. Life isn't easy and everyone goes through good and bad times, although many go into dark places that others haven't been or will ever go to. I have seen the effects it has on families and as I already said have had people very close to me go through such ordeals.
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Why go through life if it doesn't seem worth it? I used this analogy before. If I tell you to eat a big steaming pile of dog shit, and you refuse, does it make sense to call you a coward?

You don't eat it because it's pointless. It's disgusting and not worth doing. Unfortunately that's how life is for some who have been dealt a shitty hand. If this is the case I don't think they're cowards for bowing out.
 
Sorry for bumping an old thread, but recently have been having weird thoughts that I think would help to share. In times of major stress and when I'm feeling overwhelmed, almost always involving work, I find my mind resorting to thoughts like "well I could just resort to ending it all" - as in that would be one way to get rid of all the agony of my anxieties. I go as far as thinking about what would it be like to do it, how Id do it and the aftermath. The feelings of anxiety and being overwhelmed are at their worst first thing in the morning or during intense times at work. I struggle to get out of bed, and getting ready for work I'm a complete mess.

I know Id never do anything, I could never do it to my fiance, friends and family. And I don't want to do it - I've got too much to live for. Any normal person would look at my life and say its great. I have great friends and family, am healthy and have lots of opportunities. But these thoughts just creep in my mind - as if its some form of comfort to know that there is a way out if things get too out of hard.

Are these normal? Should I be worried? Anyone experienced anything similar?
 
Borderline said:
Have a cone :)
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You're an idiot.

Hudu Gurusingha said:
Sorry for bumping an old thread, but recently have been having weird thoughts that I think would help to share. In times of major stress and when I'm feeling overwhelmed, almost always involving work, I find my mind resorting to thoughts like "well I could just resort to ending it all" - as in that would be one way to get rid of all the agony of my anxieties. I go as far as thinking about what would it be like to do it, how Id do it and the aftermath. The feelings of anxiety and being overwhelmed are at their worst first thing in the morning or during intense times at work. I struggle to get out of bed, and getting ready for work I'm a complete mess.

I know Id never do anything, I could never do it to my fiance, friends and family. And I don't want to do it - I've got too much to live for. Any normal person would look at my life and say its great. I have great friends and family, am healthy and have lots of opportunities. But these thoughts just creep in my mind - as if its some form of comfort to know that there is a way out if things get too out of hard.

Are these normal? Should I be worried? Anyone experienced anything similar?
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They are relatively normal, I've experienced similar thoughts but I do also have a history with depression and suicide attempts.

The good thing is that you'd never do anything, and you explicitly state as such. However anxiety and stress can be major problems. Perhaps it's an opportunity to talk to your boss about work and see if you can come up with a solution that makes work that little bit easier.

Also talking to a psychiatrist helps, if you can spare the money. There's nothing wrong with being perfectly healthy and of sound mind and just talking to a psychiatrist about these sort of problems.
 

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Hudu Gurusingha said:
Sorry for bumping an old thread, but recently have been having weird thoughts that I think would help to share. In times of major stress and when I'm feeling overwhelmed, almost always involving work, I find my mind resorting to thoughts like "well I could just resort to ending it all" - as in that would be one way to get rid of all the agony of my anxieties. I go as far as thinking about what would it be like to do it, how Id do it and the aftermath. The feelings of anxiety and being overwhelmed are at their worst first thing in the morning or during intense times at work. I struggle to get out of bed, and getting ready for work I'm a complete mess.

I know Id never do anything, I could never do it to my fiance, friends and family. And I don't want to do it - I've got too much to live for. Any normal person would look at my life and say its great. I have great friends and family, am healthy and have lots of opportunities. But these thoughts just creep in my mind - as if its some form of comfort to know that there is a way out if things get too out of hard.

Are these normal? Should I be worried? Anyone experienced anything similar?
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A fair bit what you have posted is similar with myself, anxiety is a friggin bitch and it can put a lot of unneeded pressure on.

Talk to a doctor about it, you'll get prescribe something like zoloft, do the script, then move to something more natural in anxiety pills.
 
timtamWB said:
You're an idiot.


They are relatively normal, I've experienced similar thoughts but I do also have a history with depression and suicide attempts.

The good thing is that you'd never do anything, and you explicitly state as such. However anxiety and stress can be major problems. Perhaps it's an opportunity to talk to your boss about work and see if you can come up with a solution that makes work that little bit easier.

Also talking to a psychiatrist helps, if you can spare the money. There's nothing wrong with being perfectly healthy and of sound mind and just talking to a psychiatrist about these sort of problems.
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Thanks Timtam
 
pantskyle said:
A fair bit what you have posted is similar with myself, anxiety is a friggin bitch and it can put a lot of unneeded pressure on.

Talk to a doctor about it, you'll get prescribe something like zoloft, do the script, then move to something more natural in anxiety pills.
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Probably a cliched answer, but really dont want to resort to medicaiton. I dont think Im allowed to have them anyway - Im an epileptic. Have always kind of wondered if my epilepsy medication (Epilim) has contributed to my anxiety and indecisiveness. Been so long I dont know otherwise.
 
Hudu Gurusingha said:
Probably a cliched answer, but really dont want to resort to medicaiton. I dont think Im allowed to have them anyway - Im an epileptic. Have always kind of wondered if my epilepsy medication (Epilim) has contributed to my anxiety and indecisiveness. Been so long I dont know otherwise.
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That could be a possibility. It's definitely worth bringing it up next time you see your doctor, they might be able to pinpoint if those side effects are being caused, and switch you to a different medication for your epilepsy.
 
Hudu Gurusingha said:
Probably a cliched answer, but really dont want to resort to medicaiton. I dont think Im allowed to have them anyway - Im an epileptic. Have always kind of wondered if my epilepsy medication (Epilim) has contributed to my anxiety and indecisiveness. Been so long I dont know otherwise.
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Would the natural anti anxiety tablets do the same as well?
 

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Hudu Gurusingha said:
Probably a cliched answer, but really dont want to resort to medicaiton. I dont think Im allowed to have them anyway - Im an epileptic. Have always kind of wondered if my epilepsy medication (Epilim) has contributed to my anxiety and indecisiveness. Been so long I dont know otherwise.
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Could definitely be part of it. My dad has epilepsy, he only found out about it a few years, 53 years old at the time and had never had a seizure before in his life. First lot of medication that he was taking had a side effect of pretty heavy depression and anxiety. Thankfully the type of medication and amount has been changed over the years and he is pretty okay now, with a one off down moment every now and then (from what I've been told).
 
I don't drink coke or smoke cigarettes anymore. They certainly made me feel quite ordinary at times.
And exercise is excellent way to burn of some angst.

Beyond blue are an excellent resource as well. Don't fight it yourself.
http://www.beyondblue.org.au/
 
Hudu Gurusingha said:
Dont know - what are the natural medications? Im a bit skeptical to be honest
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I use Macro Stress Fighter, seems to work and I'm presuming it's all natural...
 
Hudu Gurusingha said:
Sorry for bumping an old thread, but recently have been having weird thoughts that I think would help to share. In times of major stress and when I'm feeling overwhelmed, almost always involving work, I find my mind resorting to thoughts like "well I could just resort to ending it all" - as in that would be one way to get rid of all the agony of my anxieties. I go as far as thinking about what would it be like to do it, how Id do it and the aftermath. The feelings of anxiety and being overwhelmed are at their worst first thing in the morning or during intense times at work. I struggle to get out of bed, and getting ready for work I'm a complete mess.

I know Id never do anything, I could never do it to my fiance, friends and family. And I don't want to do it - I've got too much to live for. Any normal person would look at my life and say its great. I have great friends and family, am healthy and have lots of opportunities. But these thoughts just creep in my mind - as if its some form of comfort to know that there is a way out if things get too out of hard.

Are these normal? Should I be worried? Anyone experienced anything similar?
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you need to quit your job, I've seen you complain about it so much on these boards

Life is short, you don't need it as much as you think you do, you probably have a bunch of people around you that you think you'll disappoint by quitting but I think they would be more disappointed in you for not taking control of your life and doing something positive because you're obviously in a bad way, and if they would rather you keep fronting to this job and feel like shit then get off on disappointing them out of spite

There are a bunch of people in this world who lost people to suicide who wish that person had the courage to walk away from their problems (jobs etc)

Just do it, you'll land on your feet
 

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