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No. no. no. no. no. no. no. no.

A wage reduction is totally different from a bonus.

My yearly wage is 100k over 5 years. That doesn't change. If i get a bonus 25%, that is my yearly wage 100k + 25%. I still get my 100k regardless each year.

A wage reduction is a reduction in my yearly wage. A 25% wage reduction now means i earn 75k a year for the next 5 years.

They are no interchangeable terms.
*sigh* However they set it up it's the same, you're really getting into semantics now.

If a player has a base wage of 50k with a loading of 50k for seasons the club is in the CL, they earn 100k. If the player has a base wage of 100k and a wage reduction clause for any seasons the club is not in the CL, they earn 50k.

I'm really over this now.
 

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I bet QPR would have liked a wage reduction clause on Julio Cesar's contract when he was on like 150k a week in the championship.
Their own fault for signing players without them. Plenty of clubs have shown it's entirely possible. I hesitate to bring up a club starting with H again because that seems to set people off.
 
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Jod said that Leicester couldn't afford 100k a week for their players. One of their players is currently on 100k due to them winning the league. People rightly called him out on the lack of logic he was displaying.
A lot of things have been said over the last few pages and logic often flies out the window when threads descend into petty arguing. Initially though he merely responded to Jatz' claim that Leicester can offer Kante everything that any other PL club can by pointing out that there are other clubs who could offer bigger wages and it kicked off from there.

It really wasn't that unreasonable or untruthful a statement and I honestly think that if myself or someone else had made that comment nothing much would have come from it.
 

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A lot of things have been said over the last few pages and logic often flies out the window when threads descend into petty arguing. Initially though he merely responded to Jatz' claim that Leicester can offer Kante everything that any other PL club can by pointing out that there are other clubs who could offer bigger wages and it kicked off from there.

It really wasn't that unreasonable or untruthful a statement and I honestly think that if myself or someone else had made that comment nothing much would have come from it.
Think it would have considering the wealth of Leicester's owners. Jatz then asked him point blank if he thought the club could afford to pay someone 100k a week and he said they couldn't.
 

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A lot of things have been said over the last few pages and logic often flies out the window when threads descend into petty arguing. Initially though he merely responded to Jatz' claim that Leicester can offer Kante everything that any other PL club can by pointing out that there are other clubs who could offer bigger wages and it kicked off from there.

It really wasn't that unreasonable or untruthful a statement and I honestly think that if myself or someone else had made that comment nothing much would have come from it.
It wasn't everything. The comment was that we couldn't afford a 150k wage for Kante. We can.

jod23 and I are alright though, I certainly don't have anything against him. Just merely discussing his point.
 

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*sigh* However they set it up it's the same, you're really getting into semantics now.

If a player has a base wage of 50k with a loading of 50k for seasons the club is in the CL, they earn 100k. If the player has a base wage of 100k and a wage reduction clause for any seasons the club is not in the CL, they earn 50k.

I'm really over this now.
It's not semantics. It's using the incorrect terms. If you wrote a contract like that a Judge would punch you in the face.

No player is going to accept a contract where their yearly salary over a period of time is going to fluctuate season to season.
 

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I reckon the owners can cover it easily without making much of a loss.

How much money do you get for winning the league and reaching champions league group stage?
 

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It's not semantics. It's using the incorrect terms. If you wrote a contract like that a Judge would punch you in the face.

No player is going to accept a contract where their yearly salary over a period of time is going to fluctuate season to season.
:drunk:

Scenario A: Player earns 100k with club while playing in the CL, which drops to 50k without it.
Scenario B: Player earns 100k with club while playing in the CL, which drops to 50k without it.

You're being petty and argumentative for the sake of it. I'm done.
 

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I reckon the owners can cover it easily without making much of a loss.

How much money do you get for winning the league and reaching champions league group stage?
The champions league group stage nets you something in the vicinity of 30 million pounds from memory.

Winning the league isn't massive as with the PL you get prize money based on table position, so its all relative (ie: 1st only gets marginally more than 2nd, who gets marginally more than 3rd etc). It will be a big increase on what they got last season though!
 

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:drunk:

Scenario A: Player earns 100k with club while playing in the CL, which drops to 50k without it.
Scenario B: Player earns 100k with club while playing in the CL, which drops to 50k without it.

You're being petty and argumentative for the sake of it. I'm done.
Bit rich coming from you and your whole premise is still wrong.

But believe whatever you want.
 
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Think it would have considering the wealth of Leicester's owners.
Fair enough but I still don't see it as that contentious an opinion tbh and I agree with Jod in saying the wealth of a clubs owners isn't everything when it comes to what a club is willing and able to offer a player. I mean Arsenal and Liverpool are super wealthy also but I don't think they'd have a chance of competing with any of United, City or Chelsea if a Neymar or Messi became a free agent tbh.
 

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Fair enough but I still don't see it as that contentious an opinion tbh and I agree with Jod in saying the wealth of a clubs owners isn't everything when it comes to what a club is willing and able to offer a player. I mean Arsenal and Liverpool are super wealthy also but I don't think they'd have a chance of competing with any of United, City or Chelsea if a Neymar or Messi became a free agent tbh.
As Jatz has said, difference between capability and intent. Leicester have the capability for offering those players virtually whatever wage they want, that doesn't mean they will.
 

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Mahrez stated he's not going anywhere.

I guarantee you neither will Kante. Called it.

A big f**k you to Barcelona.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...s-League-dreams-by-announcing-Im-staying.html


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Interesting.

But with Leicester set to pocket a mouth-watering £130m bonus following their exploits this season, their highly sought-after winger can expect to at least double his money — to bring him in line with £75,000-a-week team-mate Jamie Vardy.
Interesting.
 

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id like to see kante play in the cl before entertaining a big bid. its pretty easy honestly to look good in a prem midfield due to how poor they are across the board relative to top euro counterparts
 

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No. no. no. no. no. no. no. no.

A wage reduction is totally different from a bonus.

My yearly wage is 100k over 5 years. That doesn't change. If i get a bonus 25%, that is my yearly wage 100k + 25%. I still get my 100k regardless each year.

A wage reduction is a reduction in my yearly wage. A 25% wage reduction now means i earn 75k a year for the next 5 years.

They are not interchangeable terms.
This.
 

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Will be interesting if they can upgrade Albrighton. Would make them even more dangerous.

Sadio Mane would be a great get imo and probably fairly realistic.

Boufal another from Lille that has killed Ligue 1 this year.
 

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Andros Townsend has a $8M release clause if Newcastle get relegated according to the Telegraph, we've been linked to him and so have Southampton.

We'll need another winger since Victor Moses won't be sticking around (his career has really stagnated BTW), but I think Gokhan Tore is likely to be our first target.
 

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Just a point I'd like to make in response to people saying that as Leicester's owners are wealthy, they can afford to pay the players whatever they want, they can match Chelsea/City/United because Vichai Srivaddhanaprahba is worth a few billion dollars etc, etc.

Leicester's owners could be the Grand Poobah's of the Far East bathing in swimming pools filled with gold like an Oriental Scrooge McDuck, and it wouldn't make a difference to how much Leicester as a club could afford to pay their players. It doesn't work like that anymore. The owners can't just dip into their own pockets.

FFP dictates that the transfer fees/wages a club can offer for a player are going to be directly proportional to the amount of revenue the club can generate, not to the personal wealth of the owner.

With that in mind, what the owners can do to increase Leicester's wage bill/capacity to pay current or prospective players is to either a) use this year's success to justify dramatically inflating the existing King Power & Puma sponsorship deals and/or b) ride this wave they're on at the moment to dramatically increase their revenue streams via other means over the next 12 months.

Financially they're still a long way off the top 4-5 clubs in the league though, and getting to the stage where they can live within their means and match the wages offered by these clubs may not be as simple & straightforward a process as it sounds.
 
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