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West Ham don't need him.
Newcastle can't afford the wages.
Southampton don't seem to want to invest back into the squad. That club looks the best fit for Ba from the outside though.
Everton is a good shout but again, he'd need to take a pretty decent pay cut I would have thought.
Spurs would likely be aiming higher (but could do much worse).
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I don't even know how much he is on.
 
NUFC Tiger said:
Mate, you're not wrong at all! There is nothing I enjoy more than talking about the Toon (except perhaps ripping on Scumberland lol!). Hopefully you can watch us a bit more this season - as far as I see it, there's plenty of room on the Toon train and frankly, no club does drama like we do! :D

Perhaps it's due to not signing any permanent players for almost 18 months but for most of us, this has been a ripper of a transfer window so far! We've historically always been slow about going about our business but at the rate we're going, we might have all our business done and dusted before the opening game which would be amazing.

Maybe it's blinding optimism but I'm really looking forward to this coming season - after the doom and gloom of the second half of last season, we've hit the ground running and look like we mean business again. Last season, we were sitting quite comfortably in the upper reaches (6th after the Boxing day round of matches) and in with a shout of European qualification but the sale of Cabaye (and no subsequent replacement) took the wind out of our season and we crashed to 10th (being pipped by Stoke on the final day).

That being said, the squad we have now (at least on paper) looks much stronger - we've lost Cabaye, Remy and almost certainly Debuchy from our best 11 but gained Cabella (who's been hailed as the next Cabaye) and De Jong (for the price we sold Cabaye for) which will give us a massive boost in the creativity department. Debuchy was my choice for RB of the season last season (and had he played a handful more games, he might have got more plaudits than he did). I suspect he will do very well at Arsenal and get some rave reviews from playing for a big club (story of my life haha). Janmaat looks like a great pick up and should prove to be a solid replacement at the very least - he looks more defensively resolute than Debuchy but might not offer the same attacking threat (though Cabella and De Jong may make up for that anyway). It's a big step up from the eredivisie for sure but coming off a strong showing at the WC, I'm sure he won't be too fazed and will find his feet in time. Ayoze Perez comes with big wraps and Colback is an upgrade on Gosling who left on a free. We had a good 11 last season but a few injuries and we struggle big time given the lack of quality depth. We've (IMO) strengthen our depth this window and found similar/capable replacements for the players we've lost from our best 11 of 13/14.

A fee for Emmanuel Rivière apparently has been agreed so he could join in the next 24 hours as our sixth signing this window. He can play as a target man (an upgrade on Ameobi) or use his pace to run onto passes (which Cabella and De Jong should be able to supply). Cisse who's injured has struggled the last 2 seasons with a lack of supply but as a natural finisher, he could thrive on some quality service and perhaps regain the form he found when he first joined us (scoring 13 in his first 14 games for the club). Another striker and our squad will be set I think. De Jong and Cabella also address another issue we had after selling Cabaye - a decent set piece taker!

As it stands, my starting 11 for our opening game against City would be:

------------------Krul------------------
Janmaat - Colocinni - Williamson - Haidara (though Santon will start ahead of him).
-----------Tiote------Sissoko----------
Cabella---------De Jong-------Ben Arfa--
---------------Riviere-------------------

Subs: Elliott (GK), Yanga Mbiwa, Haidara/Santon, Ryan Taylor, Colback, Anita, Ayoze Perez (or Cisse if fit).

In terms of a prediction - my heart is confident we can do well this season and surprise a few (maybe pushing towards Europe again! De Jong has said he wants to aim for the Champions League so I love his ambition - though that could be a bit unrealistic if we get injuries given our squad is still quite thin and players may need time to adapt/gel as a team). The big concern I think will be Pardew and whether he can harness the potential of the squad. He certainly has some talented players available to him but perhaps doesn't have the tactical genius to get them functioning as a confident ball playing team. If he struggles early, word is he will get the sack (and we might go for a promising manager like Christophe Galtier or even De Boer if he is interested). Either of those 2 would give me more confidence from a tactical perspective.

So heart says a finish of anywhere between 6th-9th.
Head says 8th to 12th. (Club's minimum expectation is a top 10 finish).

On paper, I think we are better currently than the teams around us (and who'd I'd expect to be competing against on the table) such as Southampton, Swansea, Stoke and possibly even Everton.

I'll probably revisit my prediction later once I've seen the other team's make more signings but as it stands, I'm a very very happy (and excited) adopted Geordie :D:)

Howay the lads!!!!
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I like the look of that team - good balance and everyone in their preferred roles. I really hope they improve but expect Everton and Swansea to stay ahead for now. To give more insight on the new Dutch signings:

Janmaat I expect will adjust quickly and be fine. He is a strong no nonsense player and the English game should suit him just fine. He is an excellent tackler, good in the air and very good at positioning (45 pass interceptions last season) and coralling. He is susceptable to extreme pace (hence the coralling) but I expect him to be pretty solid defensively. He's no mug offensively, having scored twice and created 5 assists last season. He is just not a dribbler - he won't be going around many players - rather he links up passes well and can send in a good cross on the overlap or by running the ball deep(playing in a strong side as a wing back has meant lots of crosses). As such, be interesting to see his relationship with Cabella as his understanding with the winger is an important part of his offensive game (likes 1-2's).

Siem de Jong I am less confident about. Whilst his best is as the No 10 and he is described as a playmaker, he simply doesn't have the technical ability or the same level of creativity as someone like Cabaye (de Jong had something like two assists last season). Rather, he uses space well, is physical and has a good shot. Like Janmaat, his relationship with Cabella (and to a lesser extent Ben Arfa) is very important as he does his best work alongside a creative midfielder (like Eriksen). If Cabella cannot create in the way Cabaye did, I don't see Siem flourishing. One thing he has done though is score consistently (double figures the last four seasons) due to good finishing (and set pieces), well timed runs and playing as a striker at times. However, this has been in a dominant team and I don't expect goals to be as easy to come by at Newcastle (though I just saw your note that he scored on debut).

Good luck for the season ahead.
 
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Looks like Liverpool have hijacked our bid for Davies, despite offering less.

Doubt much will happen, players like Capoue and Lamela are pretty much new signings for MP.
 
If Conte leaving is because Vidal is getting tranfered it's a double edged sword. Very unhappy with this.

Can't just lose the best in the world in his position like it's nothing.
 

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Guardian Hawk said:
I like the look of that team - good balance and everyone in their preferred roles. I really hope they improve but expect Everton and Swansea to stay ahead for now. To give more insight on the new Dutch signings:

Janmaat I expect will adjust quickly and be fine. He is a strong no nonsense player and the English game should suit him just fine. He is an excellent tackler, good in the air and very good at positioning (45 pass interceptions last season) and coralling. He is susceptable to extreme pace (hence the coralling) but I expect him to be pretty solid defensively. He's no mug offensively, having scored twice and created 5 assists last season. He is just not a dribbler - he won't be going around many players - rather he links up passes well and can send in a good cross on the overlap or by running the ball deep(playing in a strong side as a wing back has meant lots of crosses). As such, be interesting to see his relationship with Cabella as his understanding with the winger is an important part of his offensive game (likes 1-2's).

Siem de Jong I am less confident about. Whilst his best is as the No 10 and he is described as a playmaker, he simply doesn't have the technical ability or the same level of creativity as someone like Cabaye (de Jong had something like two assists last season). Rather, he uses space well, is physical and has a good shot. Like Janmaat, his relationship with Cabella (and to a lesser extent Ben Arfa) is very important as he does his best work alongside a creative midfielder (like Eriksen). If Cabella cannot create in the way Cabaye did, I don't see Siem flourishing. One thing he has done though is score consistently (double figures the last four seasons) due to good finishing (and set pieces), well timed runs and playing as a striker at times. However, this has been in a dominant team and I don't expect goals to be as easy to come by at Newcastle (though I just saw your note that he scored on debut).

Good luck for the season ahead.
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Thanks for the info mate! We're rumoured to chasing 2 strikers so if we can get a big signing up front, it will definitely help us out given our lack of goals last season. An article I read over lunch said we see Riviere as more of a project player (which suggests we are looking to spend more on a different player - interestingly, some whispers of Carroll making a return have been doing the rounds). Interesting comments on De Jong, it sounds like he could be a Dutch Kevin Nolan for us and chip in with a bunch of goals whilst providing decent leadership on the park. Set pieces are a worry but sounds like De Jong (and Cabella as well as the returning Ryan Taylor) should help remove that concern. The more I hear about Janmaat, the more I'm happy with his signature, sounds like almost a like for like replacement for Debuchy which would be great.

If Sissoko is sold (has been linked to Liverpool and Monaco this window though nothing new the last week or so), I'd expect Anita to come in and partner Tiote in the engine room (so all 4 of our Dutch contingent might be in our best 11).

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whats happend to typeclub ?
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Pretty sure he had a second account geo5 and was at the World Cup so might still be over there samba-ing it up?
 

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NUFC Tiger said:
Thanks for the info mate! We're rumoured to chasing 2 strikers so if we can get a big signing up front, it will definitely help us out given our lack of goals last season. An article I read over lunch said we see Riviere as more of a project player (which suggests we are looking to spend more on a different player - interestingly, some whispers of Carroll making a return have been doing the rounds). Interesting comments on De Jong, it sounds like he could be a Dutch Kevin Nolan for us and chip in with a bunch of goals whilst providing decent leadership on the park. Set pieces are a worry but sounds like De Jong (and Cabella as well as the returning Ryan Taylor) should help remove that concern. The more I hear about Janmaat, the more I'm happy with his signature, sounds like almost a like for like replacement for Debuchy which would be great.

If Sissoko is sold (has been linked to Liverpool and Monaco this window though nothing new the last week or so), I'd expect Anita to come in and partner Tiote in the engine room (so all 4 of our Dutch contingent might be in our best 11).



Pretty sure he had a second account geo5 and was at the World Cup so might still be over there samba-ing it up?
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I heard that you guys thought you were buying the other, better De Jong. Was that true?
 
LukasTheGreat said:
I heard that you guys thought you were buying the other, better De Jong. Was that true?
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Ha that's the first I've heard buddy - could be true? From most accounts, he is 'probably' the better De Jong (coming off another league win where he captained Ajax to a 4th straight title and managed to score double figures from midfield - including scoring twice against City in the UCL) though hard to compare the 2 given 1 is a striker and the other is more playmaker/number 10. Luuk was very highly rated (a bit like Bony) when he was at Twente but the move to the Bundesliga didn't work out for him and he barely played, lost match fitness and subsequently didn't do much of note for us on loan bar an assist. Didn't help he was parachuted into a team with no confidence after the sale of Cabaye and played out of his preferred position I guess :p

There was actually talk of us going in for Luuk (the one we had on loan last season) but we weren't willing to match the price set on him and he ended up going back to Holland with PSV. We've been interested in both probably for the last 2-3 years and have been keeping tabs on both. With the breaking up of the Ameobi brothers, we could have started a bright new era with the 'De Jong double'. ;)
 
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