Summer Transfer Window

[jod23]

Henderson is better then Herrera?

Without question.

 

[pantskyle]

I don't what you consider a reliable source. None of us have direct access to player contracts, but this article is the gist of what I have been reading on Eurosport News:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ited-pay-24-million-for-season-long-loan.html

I would usually take BBC as gospel, but they don't have any salary figures on their site I could find.

Ok so different media outlets are reporting different things with neither club confirming anything at this stage?

 

[pieman123]

Who is gonna do the grunt work in midfield? Better midfields will waltz past Herrera and Blind. Also I cant see Mata and Rooney tracking back too much.

Youve never seen them play, christ its better than Liverpools midfield and teams hardly waltz through it.

 

[Primetime Pricey]

Without question.

Mate you might want to give a guy more then 3 games in the league in this current team before making those conclusions. Herrera was quality in La Liga.

 

[jod23]

So attacking midfielders are not midfielders?

Technically yes but what you guys need is central mids not AM's but then you went and bought another AM.

 

[Indie_]

lol at pieman continually avoiding posting up a man united XI. I'll do it for him. Let's go through the formations and see.

4-4-2
De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Di Maria Herrera Blind Mata
Rooney Falcao

Right so we have:

- Mata shunted out of position.
- A CM pairing that leaves a lot to be desired. Slow, new to the league and having to cover enormous holes in the defence.
- Two attacking fullbacks, who are suspect in defence (and Mata isn't one to track back)
- Two CBs both unproven as top four quality players in the EPL.

Probably rule this one out.

4-3-3
De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Di Maria Blind Herrera
Rooney Falcao Mata

- Di Maria out of position
- Mata out of position
- Rooney out of position
- Daley Blind has to a run a marathon every game.
- Both fullbacks left horribly exposed.

Nope.

3-5-2

-----------De Gea
----Jones---Evans----Rojo
Rafael---------------------Shaw
------------Herrera------------
------Mata--------ADM----------
--------------------------------
-----Rooney------Falcao--------

- Three suspect CBs
- Herrera as a DM...
- Mata & ADM both out of position in CM.
- A defensive night mare.

I can't even begin to express how ******ed it would be run this system, with this team.

4-4-2 (diamond)

--------De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
---------Blind---------
---ADM-------Herrera-
--------Mata---------
--Rooney----Falcao---

- ADM out of position
- ADM, Mata & Rooney all likely to be occupying the same space
- No width to utilise Falcao's heading ability.
- Daley Blind has to a run a marathon every game to cover all of the holes.

Probably the best of the lot, and the one I'd go with. But far from ideal.

 

[Cooldude]

The fee for Kagawa is undisclosed. Perhaps you have a source at United or Dortmund?

Creepy that you keep track of my posts like this.

Very lame that you can't even use them against me correctly.

You know a lot of fees are undisclosed, right? That doesn't mean some of the media outlet don't know what the actual fee is. Balotelli's fee was undisclosed, so I'm just gonna say he cost 2 million

Reliable sources are the ones that has a fee that suits your own bias and unreliable ones are the ones that don't

I didn't even remember it was you saying it, I know it was someone who went on some crazy white knight crusade to deny that Kagawa was sold for the wildly reported fee of 8 mil euro, but I guess that was you, jokes on ya. And nothing wrong with having a memory

Actually it's very correctly used, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't

 

[Indie_]

Mate you might want to give a guy more then 3 games in the league in this current team before making those conclusions. Herrera was quality in La Liga.

LOLWUT.

"Let's assume that player who has played 60 minutes in the EPL is superior to player who was best midfielder in team who finished second last season."

 

[SuperCats9]

Who is gonna do the grunt work in midfield? Better midfields will waltz past Herrera and Blind. Also I cant see Mata and Rooney tracking back too much.

Pretty unfair considering Blind hasn't kicked a ball for us yet and Herrera has played 1 game. Wait until you've actually watched them. I'm confident they'll do the job for the time being.

 

[jod23]

Youve never seen them play, christ its better than Liverpools midfield and teams hardly waltz through it.

But it's not better than Liverpool's midfield? Not by any stretch of the imagination. We dont have an outstanding midfield either so that is really saying something.

 

[pantskyle]

Liverpool fans seem to care a lot about what United do and who we sign and how we will make it work.

Getting very involved. You can almost smell the fear.

Settle down ladies. Liverpool are still relevant.

 

[jod23]

Mate you might want to give a guy more then 3 games in the league in this current team before making those conclusions. Herrera was quality in La Liga.

Henderson was quality in the EPL too. In fact he was the cog that made the whole team turn. The whole team that nearly won the league and scored over 100 goals.

 

[pieman123]

lol at pieman continually avoiding posting up a man united XI. I'll do it for him. Let's go through the formations and see.

4-4-2
De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Di Maria Herrera Blind Mata
Rooney Falcao

Right so we have:

- Mata shunted out of position.
- A CM pairing that leaves a lot to be desired. Slow, new to the league and having to cover enormous holes in the defence.
- Two attacking fullbacks, who are suspect in defence (and Mata isn't one to track back)
- Two CBs both unproven as top four quality players in the EPL.

Probably rule this one out.

4-3-3
De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Di Maria Blind Herrera
Rooney Falcao Mata

- Di Maria out of position
- Mata out of position
- Rooney out of position
- Daley Blind has to a run a marathon every game.
- Both fullbacks left horribly exposed.

Nope.

3-5-2

-----------De Gea
----Jones---Evans----Rojo
Rafael---------------------Shaw
------------Herrera------------
------Mata--------ADM----------
--------------------------------
-----Rooney------Falcao--------

- Three suspect CBs
- Herrera as a DM...
- Mata & ADM both out of position in CM.
- A defensive night mare.

I can't even begin to express how ******ed it would be run this system, with this team.

4-4-2 (diamond)

--------De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
---------Blind---------
---ADM-------Herrera-
--------Mata---------
--Rooney----Falcao---

- ADM out of position
- ADM, Mata & Rooney all likely to be occupying the same space
- No width to utilise Falcao's heading ability.
- Daley Blind has to a run a marathon every game to cover all of the holes.

Probably the best of the lot, and the one I'd go with. But far from ideal.

Haha Liverpool supporters are an absolute joke around here. Di Maria out of poistion in a midfield 3? really? He was one of the best in the world at RM there.

 

[SuperCats9]

It's turning into yet another United v scouser shitfight.

 

[pantskyle]

You know a lot of fees are undisclosed, right? That doesn't mean some of the media outlet don't know what the actual fee is. Balotelli's fee was undisclosed, so I'm just gonna say he cost 2 million

Reliable sources are the ones that has a fee that suits your own bias and unreliable ones are the ones that don't

I didn't even remember it was you saying it, I know it was someone who went on some crazy white knight crusade to deny that Kagawa was sold for the wildly reported fee of 8 mil euro, but I guess that was you, jokes on ya. And nothing wrong with having a memory

Actually it's very correctly used, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't

Oh playing dumb.

I genuinely feel sorry and embarassed for you.

Maybe your parents never loved you enough.

Be brave little one.

 

[jod23]

Liverpool fans seem to care a lot about what United do and who we sign and how we will make it work.

Getting very involved. You can almost smell the fear.

Settle down ladies. Liverpool are still relevant.

Haha of course we are interested in our biggest rivals and who they buy and sell. We want to be better than you guys which im sure you want to be better than us.

It's called a rivalry.

 

[jod23]

Oh and it's certainly not fear. That went when SAF retired.

Im pretty confident we will comfortably finish higher in the league than United this season.

 

[pieman123]

Haha of course we are interested in our biggest rivals and who they buy and sell. We want to be better than you guys which im sure you want to be better than us.

It's called a rivalry.

Yeh so why are you dismissing all our signings as crap, the same could be said with Liverpool signing 9 average players. Lets just wait and see how they all go before writing drivel.

 

[pantskyle]

Haha of course we are interested in our biggest rivals and who they buy and sell. We want to be better than you guys which im sure you want to be better than us.

It's called a rivalry.

It's expanded from a rivalry to an obsession by a few of the pool fans on here.

Stinks of fear. I'm not even really including you in that as you have the ability to discuss things although liking the sad posts takes points away from you.

 

[Indie_]

Haha Liverpool supporters are an absolute joke around here. Di Maria out of poistion in a midfield 3? really? He was one of the best in the world at RM there.

He was playing in a midfield three next to the likes of Alonso/Modric/Khedira with Ramos/Varane/Pepe behind him. He was playing in Spain, not in England.

Not quite the same as being flanked by Darren Fletcher and Ander Herrera with Phil Jones and Jonny Evans behind you.

 

[pantskyle]

Oh and it's certainly not fear. That went when SAF retired.

Im pretty confident we will comfortably finish higher in the league than United this season.

I think you'll finish above us as well.

Woah.

 

[jod23]

Yeh so why are you dismissing all our signings as crap, the same could be said with Liverpool signing 9 average players. Lets just wait and see how they all go before writing drivel.

I havent dismissed all your signings as crap. ADM and Falcao are without doubt world class players. All I said was your squad was unbalanced as you havent signed any quality defenders or central midfield players.

Herrera, Blind, Shaw and Rojo are ok signings but not top quality that your team needs to balance out your midfield with your outstanding attacking players in ADM, Mata, Rooney, RVP and Falcao.

 

[Cooldude]

Falcao is a concerning signing, because if you're gonna overstock on any area then do it with goalscorers up front

But late 20s world class strikers have come to England and fail, plus he's recovering from another ACL, let's see how he goes.

 

[pantskyle]

Good that we loaned him before a full purchase. ..

 

[Cooldude]

Because signing is always permanent, a loan isn't a loan signing, oh wait

I'm alright with him not joining the Mancs permanently, so they're left with an aging Rooney and seemingly a latter year RVP shot by injuries