MRP / Trib. Suns Powell Suspended for Homophobic Slur

[M Malice]

Quintessential Gold Coast, IIRC BRAB is the guy on the left.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Quintessential Gold Coast, IIRC BRAB is the guy on the left.
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BRAB is Will Ferrell's dad?

 

[BuntonRules]

Quintessential Gold Coast, IIRC BRAB is the guy on the left.
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Nah. Where is the budgie smugglers?

 

[Lionheart182]

The irony is many people from the coast didn’t actually grow up there, in fact most people I met since moving here are from elsewhere. So maybe the weirdos and flogs are from wherever you are from, negative poster

 

[McIvor]

A lot of the posts here regarding homophobia, and comparing to other insults, are missing a major element. Even if the player the abuse is directed at is not homosexual, the use of this as an insult means that anyone hearing it would feel that you can't be gay in AFL.
There are no openly gay AFL players as far as I am aware, but surveys estimate 1 in 33 males in Australia is not heterosexual.

The way I see this is either:

• There are gay players that haven't come out, or
• Gay men do not play AFL

Either way suggests that is because football is not seen as an accepting place due to the abuse you would get.

It doesn't matter a jot if the player in question is gay. It matters that we stop using it as an insult.

But why do people need to “come out”. Who gives a crap, just like hearing Dani Minogue coming out. So what? She obviously did it for relevance or his knows what but why do people need to come out. Does someone need to come out if they like to do something kinky or like older women or some other weird fetish, particularly when people just don’t care. The ones that usually do I think do so for commercial reasons or some other benefit.

Everyone I know when discussing this are the same; whether you’re straight gay or whatever, so what. There isn’t a need to “come out” - you just be because most I find arejust accepting and some gay fellas I know couldn’t care what they get called because they give just as good back.

 

[McIvor]

I don’t see how I am virtue signalling, in my opinion there isn’t room for that sort of banter on the field, clearly you disagree which is your decision. I really don’t know how it can be seen as a bad thing to stamp it out though. The ‘back in my day’ crew seem to think just because everyone was a miserable prick to everyone around them back then then that is how it should always be

Yet they all had a drink with one another after the game irrespective of what was said - I’m not talking racial or homophobic - I guess the feeling I’m getting is that most can’t do that anymore and take everything to heart but in the local footy scene I frequent it still exists. But hey let’s be outraged

 

[Maboo]

But why do people need to “come out”. Who gives a crap, just like hearing Dani Minogue coming out. So what? She obviously did it for relevance or his knows what but why do people need to come out. Does someone need to come out if they like to do something kinky or like older women or some other weird fetish, particularly when people just don’t care. The ones that usually do I think do so for commercial reasons or some other benefit.

Everyone I know when discussing this are the same; whether you’re straight gay or whatever, so what. There isn’t a need to “come out” - you just be because most I find arejust accepting and some gay fellas I know couldn’t care what they get called because they give just as good back.

Why do people feel the need to come out, really, maybe ask why do people feel they need to live in anonymity

 

[McIvor]

Why do people feel the need to come out, really, maybe ask why do people feel they need to live in anonymity

They don’t; not the ones I know anyway; they just are and no one bats an eyelid

 

[Nathan Barley]

They don’t; not the ones I know anyway; they just are and no one bats an eyelid

What’s your definition of coming out?

 

[dlanod]

But why do people need to “come out”. Who gives a crap, just like hearing Dani Minogue coming out. So what? She obviously did it for relevance or his knows what but why do people need to come out. Does someone need to come out if they like to do something kinky or like older women or some other weird fetish, particularly when people just don’t care. The ones that usually do I think do so for commercial reasons or some other benefit.

Everyone I know when discussing this are the same; whether you’re straight gay or whatever, so what. There isn’t a need to “come out” - you just be because most I find arejust accepting and some gay fellas I know couldn’t care what they get called because they give just as good back.

Why do you feel so precious as to complain about this? You go on about how words don't matter but you're getting your knickers in a twist over people coming out now? Seriously, pick a lane. You've obviously got some serious attention seeking need to keep whinging about it, let along now going on about people who have zero relevance to AFL on here.

Obviously it does matter - if it didn't matter some random celebrity coming out would be irrelevant, and people like you wouldn't feel the need to make a comment.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Your brain + Facebook + Sky News + Too Much Exposure to Lead as a child =

 

[paulige]

But why do people need to “come out”. Who gives a crap, just like hearing Dani Minogue coming out. So what? She obviously did it for relevance or his knows what but why do people need to come out. Does someone need to come out if they like to do something kinky or like older women or some other weird fetish, particularly when people just don’t care. The ones that usually do I think do so for commercial reasons or some other benefit.

Everyone I know when discussing this are the same; whether you’re straight gay or whatever, so what. There isn’t a need to “come out” - you just be because most I find arejust accepting and some gay fellas I know couldn’t care what they get called because they give just as good back.

Please consider the following with an open mind: it is possible you’re missing the point.

If you can manage that, things will start making more sense.

 

[notliondown]

I don't want to pile on... It achieves nothing and only makes people more defensive and even more reluctant to consider their position on things.

Coming out happens precisely because of this original incident and some of the comments in this thread.

Coming out is the moment people finally throw away the burden of being different, of feeling the need to live a lie, of hiding the truth from their friends and family. It's a moment where strength finally overcomes the bullying and self doubt.

It's a moment of hope and incredible vulnerability. It's a moment where you pray desperately that the people you share this secret with won't think differently of you, shun you or worse turn on you.

I would suggest that in 99.9% of cases it is part of that person finally accepting themselves and seeking to remove a burden others don't understand the weight of... Not commercialism or popularity or some other external thing.

The fact some have to do it publicly and end up exposed to the scrutiny of strangers, is the reason it's so rare. It's hard enough to reconcile with the people you know and hope love you. It's unfathomably hard to want to expose yourself to the ignorance or criticism of strangers.

Coming out is simply putting down a burden that is your own. It might be shame, it might be fear, it might be difference. But it's a vital part of survival and people being the best they can be for themselves and those around them.

 

[M Malice]

I don't want to pile on... It achieves nothing and only makes people more defensive and even more reluctant to consider their position on things.

Coming out happens precisely because of this original incident and some of the comments in this thread.

Coming out is the moment people finally throw away the burden of being different, of feeling the need to live a lie, of hiding the truth from their friends and family. It's a moment where strength finally overcomes the bullying and self doubt.

It's a moment of hope and incredible vulnerability. It's a moment where you pray desperately that the people you share this secret with won't think differently of you, shun you or worse turn on you.

I would suggest that in 99.9% of cases it is part of that person finally accepting themselves and seeking to remove a burden others don't understand the weight of... Not commercialism or popularity or some other external thing.

The fact some have to do it publicly and end up exposed to the scrutiny of strangers, is the reason it's so rare. It's hard enough to reconcile with the people you know and hope love you. It's unfathomably hard to want to expose yourself to the ignorance or criticism of strangers.

Coming out is simply putting down a burden that is your own. It might be shame, it might be fear, it might be difference. But it's a vital part of survival and people being the best they can be for themselves and those around them.

Explained it better than I could... the reason the young lady I know "came out" was because she and her partner wanted to lead a normal life and not have to hide their relationship. Unfortunately her immediate family were not very supportive and shunned her for a while, her partner still does not get invited to some family events if certain members of said extended family are there, very sad.

Her family is devoutly religious which is IMO a big part of the intolerance, I do know they voted NO in the same sex marriage referendum.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Her family is devoutly religious which is IMO a big part of the intolerance, I do know they voted NO in the same sex marriage referendum.

Religion has a lot to answer for. Without religion, arguably we would have not only had several male players be openly gay by now, we would have also had a professional women's competition sooner, as a lot of the backlash to women's rights was led by religious people using scripture to justify their stance.

 

[M Malice]

Religion has a lot to answer for. Without religion, arguably we would have not only had several male players be openly gay by now, we would have also had a professional women's competition sooner, as a lot of the backlash to women's rights was led by religious people using scripture to justify their stance.

I have been Atheistic re institutionalised biblical/koranic etc religion for a long while, I can't come at an omnipresent, participative, omniscient, judgmental god.

However I am open to the possibility of there being more to this existence than we know now.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

However I am open to the possibility of there being more to this existence than we know now.

I'm sure there could be, I just don't trust any organised religion to know the nature of it.

 

[McIvor]

I don't want to pile on... It achieves nothing and only makes people more defensive and even more reluctant to consider their position on things.

Coming out happens precisely because of this original incident and some of the comments in this thread.

Coming out is the moment people finally throw away the burden of being different, of feeling the need to live a lie, of hiding the truth from their friends and family. It's a moment where strength finally overcomes the bullying and self doubt.

It's a moment of hope and incredible vulnerability. It's a moment where you pray desperately that the people you share this secret with won't think differently of you, shun you or worse turn on you.

I would suggest that in 99.9% of cases it is part of that person finally accepting themselves and seeking to remove a burden others don't understand the weight of... Not commercialism or popularity or some other external thing.

The fact some have to do it publicly and end up exposed to the scrutiny of strangers, is the reason it's so rare. It's hard enough to reconcile with the people you know and hope love you. It's unfathomably hard to want to expose yourself to the ignorance or criticism of strangers.

Coming out is simply putting down a burden that is your own. It might be shame, it might be fear, it might be difference. But it's a vital part of survival and people being the best they can be for themselves and those around them.

Who says they are different though? I don’t think they are and think people like you are making this bigger than it needs to. Again, who cares what you’re into and the need to label it? Most people I know couldn’t care less about what you do, who you are and the rest. As long as you’re a good person and kind is all that matters yet I find most here seem to think that because you have a certain view, that is, who cares, that you’re some kind of monster yet most espousing labels and the rest are the ones angry. I dead set have a friend that has chosen to be single and is honestly not into males or females. Should she come out for not choosing?

 

[buttermuffs]

Who says they are different though? I don’t think they are and think people like you are making this bigger than it needs to. Again, who cares what you’re into and the need to label it? Most people I know couldn’t care less about what you do, who you are and the rest. As long as you’re a good person and kind is all that matters yet I find most here seem to think that because you have a certain view, that is, who cares, that you’re some kind of monster yet most espousing labels and the rest are the ones angry. I dead set have a friend that has chosen to be single and is honestly not into males or females. Should she come out for not choosing?

I understand you’re coming from a decent place but it seems like you’re ignoring the fact that there are people around who very much are bigoted and will other those who are different. It’s great that you’ve surrounded yourself with very accepting individuals but I feel like you are ignorant to the idea that not everyone is like that.

People care about labels people bigots love to disrespect who they are on a fundamental level. People are proud of their labels in defiance to those bigots. There’s plenty of stories online of people who have made it known they are gay and yet their family pretends it’s not a thing. My friend had to remind their family they are bisexual because they would only ever consider her to marry a man in the future.

These labels were born from the bigoted world we exist in. They bring a sense of comfort and community when for people who were outcast form their own.

I’m glad your friend feels comfortable in herself and has supportive people around her but that’s not the case for everyone who feels the way she does. People with no interest in romance or sex don’t always get that, with family who pressure them to get married or friends who judge them for not having sex. The label like aromantic or asexual serves as a way to help someone like that connect with like minded people and learn to accept that they aren’t broken. Your friend won’t need it but others will.

I get the ‘who cares’ attitude is good and all for incredibly accepting environments but it’s not good if you become ignorant to the struggle of others in differing environments.

 

[notliondown]

think people like you are making this bigger than it needs to.

Oh. You mean someone who went through it? Who experienced life both as a scared closeted boy/teen/man and someone who came out to friends and family?

Someone who was surrounded by amazing accepting people and yet still feared their judgement and rejection? Who feared life could never be normal or that they would be continually judged?

Someone who had to make sure the motel he stayed at was accepting of him for example? Who was told by everything he read and heard that he was different and wrong and most likely going to die because of it?

Sure.

My final word on this subject I promise, is to simply ask you to stop assuming you know what's right or wrong for other people. That's how we end up in this mess in the first place.