News Suns to ask for Pick 1 as a priority pick
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Hahhaahahhaha here you go again, please see the yup above.if I don't understand I ask and he explain it to me, don't need you to come in.No he didn't.
Interesting you mention Beau Dowler but not Lance Franklin
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Thought I'd balance out the equation.....We could have had Pendlebury but plumped for Ellis, We could have had Ryder but got Dowler....Tigers plumped for Tambling instead of Buddy.....Win some, lose some.
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I think it is very likely Rowell and Anderson will be Suns next year.
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I bet a million to one if Carlton had pick one or two, your narrative on gc priority pick would be totally different. As you don’t have a high end pick that’s easy to say typical Carlton style
I'm still yet to understand how a PP makes you any better now. Unless you get Walsh, Judd or Selwood (ie genuinely good in first year), how does it help with your competitiveness in the short term? All it can possibly do is improve you in the medium to long term at which point, if you haven't fixed your major problems, no amount of talented players will make any difference. If you have fixed them, then you just have a leg up on everyone who did it without a PP.
Makes no sense. Have never heard a good argument for PPs. Teams that are perennially **** arent **** because they haven't had access to top talent, they are **** because of poor off field performance (governance, list management, coaching etc).
Makes no sense. Have never heard a good argument for PPs. Teams that are perennially **** arent **** because they haven't had access to top talent, they are **** because of poor off field performance (governance, list management, coaching etc).
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Suns priority pick call sees rivals question value of trading draft selections
Clubs raise belief draft selections will be diluted if Suns are given first two picks in upcoming draft
Very very unlikely a front ended PP is given now that the other clubs have highlighted how it will compromise live pick trading - it was always going to be the case that the other clubs were going to be up in arms. At very best, it might be an end of 1st round pick, but again, unlikely. The league is going to need to look at alternative methods of assistance
The draft is about hope.
Hope of drafting a gun player, or an A grader, or a good 200 gamer.
A team struggling on-field can sell hope with young players with potential. Even when some of those players turn out to be not that good at football, the hope has been sold already.
Hope sells and always will.
If a team really needs a dose of hope, then the case for an end of 1st round PP is good.
If a team needs all the hope it can get (the Suns), and retention is a factor in every single (every single) player decision they make (all 4 northen clubs), the 2 best players in the draft are best mates and would love to play together, then a pick 1 PP is in play.
Hope of drafting a gun player, or an A grader, or a good 200 gamer.
A team struggling on-field can sell hope with young players with potential. Even when some of those players turn out to be not that good at football, the hope has been sold already.
Hope sells and always will.
If a team really needs a dose of hope, then the case for an end of 1st round PP is good.
If a team needs all the hope it can get (the Suns), and retention is a factor in every single (every single) player decision they make (all 4 northen clubs), the 2 best players in the draft are best mates and would love to play together, then a pick 1 PP is in play.
Suns priority pick call sees rivals question value of trading draft selections
Clubs raise belief draft selections will be diluted if Suns are given first two picks in upcoming draftwww.afl.com.au
Very very unlikely a front ended PP is given now that the other clubs have highlighted how it will compromise live pick trading - it was always going to be the case that the other clubs were going to be up in arms. At very best, it might be an end of 1st round pick, but again, unlikely. The league is going to need to look at alternative methods of assistance
I will be laughing at this when we get the the early draft PP just like I did when you were counting your chickens before they hatched when you were sizing up Anderson for a Crows jumper and they lost to the Blues.
The PP rule was there last year, buyer beware when trading future picks.
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You must have confused me for the guy that gives a sch1t what you think. If it happens no PP i'll come back to you
Edit..i'd take the word of the guys that report on the latest club meeting on what is more likely to happen
Haha ... I'm laughing already
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LOL that article mentions the Suns have drafted 7 kids in the top 10 in the previous 3 drafts, but fails to mention one of those kids has already left.
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There appears to be significant angst from the club recruiters about GC's request to get a PP..Ogilvie addresses this around 17 minutes in and why it is a real problem for the rest of the league with the advent of live pick trading
So for those who have an issue with Gold Coast getting a priority pick 1, what are your thoughts on the following four-point assistance package to help the Suns instead?
1. End of first round priority pick
2. Darwin added to Suns Academy zone
3. Three year salary cap concession for veterans - anyone who is at least 28 by the beginning of next season and has also played 100 games or more is exempt from TPP.
4. No off-field spending cap for the next five seasons.
I feel that gives them a fighting chance to be a success without compromising the draft too heavily. Thoughts?
1. End of first round priority pick
2. Darwin added to Suns Academy zone
3. Three year salary cap concession for veterans - anyone who is at least 28 by the beginning of next season and has also played 100 games or more is exempt from TPP.
4. No off-field spending cap for the next five seasons.
I feel that gives them a fighting chance to be a success without compromising the draft too heavily. Thoughts?
I don't think the Suns will get a beginning of first round PP, there was a lot of support for us to get one a couple of years ago and it never eventuated, IMO they'll get an end of first rounder.
IIRC it was stated that beginning of first round PPs would only be for extraordinary circumstances ie. Player death.
IIRC it was stated that beginning of first round PPs would only be for extraordinary circumstances ie. Player death.
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The 2nd, 3rd and 4th ideas are good as it gives them advantage in terms of their recruiting zone by adding in the NT. Salary cap relief is good as it helps them to bring in good experienced players in the here and now and the off field spending advantage should enable them to set up a 1st class off field dynamic with the best people available running the show. The idea of PP's is no good and the clubs are pushing hard against PP's full stop and if you look at the suns list now, it has been injury that has hampered them in the second half of the year. They were competitive early on when they had their full kit running around. The will get pick 1 anyway to take Rowell who will help them next year and they have Brisbane's 1st rounder to get another top 20 kid in. The other off field assistance to attract players, retain players and expand their recruitment zone are great short / mid term assistance to get the club firing
In no way do they deserve pick 1 as a priority. They traded out their captain last year and let a very good footballer in Lyons go for nothing, they had access to State League players last year and have three top picks last year. At best they get an end of round 1 like Brisbane did.
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I think they are very good suggestions for the AFL to think about. They will prompt a lot of discussion from which something very positive should emerge. I think the AFL would or should know that a priority pick No 1 will not make any difference.
Who demanded to leave. If anything that strengthens their case for getting help.
Who didn't fit their game plan. Their inexperienced coach simply didn't know how to use him where Fagan did. If anything that strengthens their case for getting help.
Who were either crap or injured. Most state league players are state league players for a reason. Tim Kellys come once in a decade or two.
What difference does this make? They're all 18!
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Just give em one. Hopefully they trade it and get something they can use straight away.
It will because Rowell and Anderson are both more likely to stay if they're both going to the Suns. No, neither of them are going to take over games like Patrick Cripps in their first season. That's not the point of a priority pick, and if you think it is, you misunderstand the point of them.
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