Supercoach DRAFT - Discussion thread

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Pffft. I had a donut on field and picked up 41pts off the bench!

That donut was a gift from the SC Gods to the rest of us. You're meant to shove it in ya gob and stop your boasting

 

[buttox]

team
pittard bartel
danger ward
gawn
waite t lynch(gcs)

bench
biggs
neale
hodge
sloane
robbinson

how important is bench ruck cover?
hickey is in the waiver list this week i was thinking
biggs--->hickey
or neale--->hickey
uncertain any ideas would help

 

[toxic]

team
pittard bartel
danger ward
gawn
waite t lynch(gcs)

bench
biggs
neale
hodge
sloane
robbinson

how important is bench ruck cover?
hickey is in the waiver list this week i was thinking
biggs--->hickey
or neale--->hickey
uncertain any ideas would help

wait until he becomes a free agent so you dont give up you're waiver position

 

[buttox]

wait until he becomes a free agent so you dont give up you're waiver position

1st year doing this.
i had no idea about the waiver list.
what effects it?
how do i raise my position?

 

[brentman]

team
pittard bartel
danger ward
gawn
waite t lynch(gcs)

bench
biggs
neale
hodge
sloane
robbinson

how important is bench ruck cover?
hickey is in the waiver list this week i was thinking
biggs--->hickey
or neale--->hickey
uncertain any ideas would help

What other rucks are in free agency?
Dropping either Biggs or Neale isnt worth it.
If there are a few rucks available (Mcevoy, Nicholls, Hickey, Campbell, Roughead) then you can always pick them up when you need them. Biggs or Neale would presumably get picked up straight away in free agency

 

[toxic]

1st year doing this.
i had no idea about the waiver list.
what effects it?
how do i raise my position?

depends on how it is set up

normal way is

there is a ladder over on the RHS

the bottom person on the lsit has 1st rights to a player:

eg: if no 12 chooses Hickey and you are number 4 and you also choose Hickey then number 12 gets Hickey.

at the completion of Number 12's trade (gains Hickey) he then moves to number one on the waiver wire and you move to number 5

others may also trade which changes the standings after trades

trading in a free agent has no effect on the waiver list

 

[leng jai]

We're having a shitstorm on WhatsApp at the moment over the Montagna debacle where the guy second on the ladder got him for free during a mid week waiver. Quality entertainment

 

[team diesel]

What other rucks are in free agency?
Dropping either Biggs or Neale isnt worth it.
If there are a few rucks available (Mcevoy, Nicholls, Hickey, Campbell, Roughead) then you can always pick them up when you need them. Biggs or Neale would presumably get picked up straight away in free agency

Agree, in your format i dont think u need to carry two rucks
I play 5-7-1-5 and dont have a top10 ruck so i struggle and try to pick weekly matchups.
Last week picked up ZSmith once RStanley was out and put Grundy on the bench
This week, BGrundy vs CARL looks ok, but i heard ppl arent happy with his effort vs WCE
Pickup up McEvoy vs RICH, might play him instead
JRoughead also on waivers
Still trying to swing a trade for Blicavs...

 

[toxic]

Krujan

thoughts on.....

if you only have 2 playing defenders on the field and none on the bench, does your ZERO on field defenders score get replaced by your lowest scoring player on the bench?

eg: If i have Fyfe, JJ and say Bob Murphy on the bench as well as Daisy Thomas and Daisy scores 140 do i get Daisy's 140 score in my defence spot?

seems a quirk that could be exploited

 

[brentman]

Krujan

thoughts on.....

if you only have 2 playing defenders on the field and none on the bench, does your ZERO on field defenders score get replaced by your lowest scoring player on the bench?

eg: If i have Fyfe, JJ and say Bob Murphy on the bench as well as Daisy Thomas and Daisy scores 140 do i get Daisy's 140 score in my defence spot?

seems a quirk that could be exploited

yes its a loophole but its quite hard to exploit from experience. if you have 5 ppl on your bench, one is bound to spud it up. locking in a 70-80 with a defender is probably safer. also you have the obvious risk of another donut forcing you to take a 0

 

[Krujan]

Krujan

thoughts on.....

if you only have 2 playing defenders on the field and none on the bench, does your ZERO on field defenders score get replaced by your lowest scoring player on the bench?

eg: If i have Fyfe, JJ and say Bob Murphy on the bench as well as Daisy Thomas and Daisy scores 140 do i get Daisy's 140 score in my defence spot?

seems a quirk that could be exploited

Yes. I'm in the same boat with possible zero for Laird and only 2 scoring bench players - Bont & Roughy. Just like last week, I would no doubt cop Roughy's E score like I did for Cripps on the weekend. His 26 bench points cost me my league game. Had I been awarded Bont's bench score for Cripps, which would have made more sense since they're both mids, I would have won. Stupid rule, but like you said is exploitable.

Long story short, this morning I traded Roughy > Dan Menzel who will kick 5 goals straight this week and score 120SC+ as my bench cover score.

 

[toxic]

Yes. I'm in the same boat with possible zero for Laird and only 2 scoring bench players - Bont & Roughy. Just like last week, I would no doubt cop Roughy's E score like I did for Cripps on the weekend. His 26 bench points cost me my league game. Had I been awarded Bont's bench score for Cripps, which would have made more sense since they're both mids, I would have won. Stupid rule, but like you said is exploitable.

Long story short, this morning I traded Roughy > Dan Menzel who will kick 5 goals straight this week and score 120SC+ as my bench cover score.

Contemplating ditching Seedsman for a nonplaying rookie and covering him with a mid like josh kelly or daisy

I think you can only have ONE emergency score count tho.
If you have 2 on field donuts you get stuck with a zero even if you have 4 playing emergencies

 

[toxic]

yes its a loophole but its quite hard to exploit from experience. if you have 5 ppl on your bench, one is bound to spud it up. locking in a 70-80 with a defender is probably safer. also you have the obvious risk of another donut forcing you to take a 0

Just have one player on the bench and the rest donuts

 

[Krujan]

Contemplating ditching Seedsman for a nonplaying rookie and covering him with a mid like josh kelly or daisy

I think you can only have ONE emergency score count tho.
If you have 2 on field donuts you get stuck with a zero even if you have 4 playing emergencies

Yep, you only get 1 auto emergency score. So don't play 2 doughnuts on the field.

 

[brentman]

Just have one player on the bench and the rest donuts

no depth then.
i think as a long term strategy its better to have players on your bench who are competing for an onfield spot.
each to their own i guess

 

[Krujan]

Contemplating ditching Seedsman for a nonplaying rookie and covering him with a mid like josh kelly or daisy

I think you can only have ONE emergency score count tho.
If you have 2 on field donuts you get stuck with a zero even if you have 4 playing emergencies

Good move, Kelly or Daisy should score more than what Seeds would.

 

[Krujan]

no depth then.
i think as a long term strategy its better to have players on your bench who are competing for an onfield spot.
each to their own i guess

How can you say that without seeing his team? He might have 3 injured Super-Premo's on his bench for all you know.

 

[brentman]

well then youre not using the loophole as a long term strategy, youre simply taking advantage of it short term.
relying on that loophole for 1 week or 2 could pay off, i was saying its not a viable long term strategy

 

[toxic]

no depth then.
i think as a long term strategy its better to have players on your bench who are competing for an onfield spot.
each to their own i guess

why?

that makes no sense at all as you can trade out each week, in fact each day unlimited

competing for an onfield spot does what? - they dont go up and down in price

 

[toxic]

well then youre not using the loophole as a long term strategy, youre simply taking advantage of it short term.
relying on that loophole for 1 week or 2 could pay off, i was saying its not a viable long term strategy

why is it not a long term viable option?

I can simply park a non playing defender on the field - my lowest scoring defender by average is Seedsman - replace him with a donut.

then use a decent scoring mid to cover the donut

I can do this every week, including finals

 

[Krujan]

why is it not a long term viable option?

I can simply park a non playing defender on the field - my lowest scoring defender by average is Seedsman - replace him with a donut.

then use a decent scoring mid to cover the donut

I can do this every week, including finals

I wouldn't push my luck with that strategy for finals. It will back fire on you when you cop a late out from the last game of the round and all your other players are already locked out.

 

[brentman]

why?

that makes no sense at all as you can trade out each week, in fact each day unlimited

competing for an onfield spot does what? - they dont go up and down in price

it makes plenty of sense.
in the scenario you have described you would have no depth, what happens if you get an injury (something guaranteed to happen)? if you have 3 donuts on your bench then you would be left to bring in a free agent as a starter. if you have depth on the bench then you will only be relying on a free agent to cover a bench spot, not a starting spot. good free agents are generally few and far between, hence its important to have depth on your bench.
my experience is that having bench cover for all positions bar ruck is crucial

 

[toxic]

it makes plenty of sense.
in the scenario you have described you would have no depth, what happens if you get an injury (something guaranteed to happen)? if you have 3 donuts on your bench then you would be left to bring in a free agent as a starter. if you have depth on the bench then you will only be relying on a free agent to cover a bench spot, not a starting spot. good free agents are generally few and far between, hence its important to have depth on your bench.
my experience is that having bench cover for all positions bar ruck is crucial

we'll just agree to disagree

I still see no sense in having a 70 -90 point defender on the bench to cover a late defender being out rather than having a 90-105 mid on the bench to cover a defender.

Finals if a late out occurs i have an hour to grab someone from the free agent pool, when you get to D3 or F3 there is generally someone around the same potential score avaialble

 

[brentman]

we'll just agree to disagree

I still see no sense in having a 70 -90 point defender on the bench to cover a late defender being out rather than having a 90-105 mid on the bench to cover a defender.

Finals if a late out occurs i have an hour to grab someone from the free agent pool, when you get to D3 or F3 there is generally someone around the same potential score avaialble

its not to cover a late out, it's to cover an injury. it allows you to bring in a decent starter as opposed to someons who is a free agent (aka poor )

 

[toxic]

its not to cover a late out, it's to cover an injury. it allows you to bring in a decent starter as opposed to someons who is a free agent (aka poor )

you make the assumption there is decent cover available