Supremely Stretchy Stengle Saga - what do we want on BF?

[John Who]

It has been literally 3 months (from mid-December 2020) since Stengle has been officially stood down by the club, excluded from all club duties until a pending decision. 3 misdemeanours within 12 months has caused a significant division on both club and fans, on what should be the most appropriate penalty for this young up-and-comer. It is a unique position he's in because 2 of those misdemeanours had occurred during the off-season (end of 2020), and there has never really been a precedent set by other players for a club decision to follow suit.

And now here we are, 3 months later with the final decision yet to be made, and still ambiguous as ever!

Some club official statements in the past 1 week:

Olsen: "the club is in deep negotiations with Stengle" (negotiations on what John?)

Nicks: "Never say never" (whatever that means)

So let's assume the Saga ends, or it might never. If you were a club official, what would be your vote?

 

[John Who]

Anyone want to add a new response to the poll, then I can add it.

 

[Cap]

Very crowesque to take this long.

 

[CrowinNT]

Not sure why we need another thread on this ?

 

[Pugsley]

Why stop at one thread?

 

[John Who]

Not sure why we need another thread on this ?

There’s a poll on here, that’s what I’m mainly interested in.

 

[John Who]

Very crowesque to take this long.

This stretch of waiting for a verdict is possibly a world record in sport. Most the time with any offence in sport, you’d know a clear penalty within a matter of weeks, not months!

 

[skam85]

Roast - Tyson Stengle sacked after ******* up again

https://www.afc.com.au/news/843498 "Adelaide is aware of an off-field matter involving young forward Tyson Stengle who has been stood down from all club duties effective immediately as the Club ascertains all relevant details on the situation. The Club is working closely with the AFL and AFL...

www.bigfooty.com

1704 posts I'm sure there's an answer to this question.

 

[Hodgy]

I honestly don’t understand how anyone has an opinion on other people’s lives and issues outside of footy. This kid obviously has problems and they are causing some self destructive habits. He’s hardly the first or last to have these struggles, and for me to critisize him from the outside without knowing any of his personal circumstances would just be breathtakingly arrogant.

one thing that I’m 100% confident in though is that the absolute worse thing the AFL could do for Stengle is to cut him loose. Their desicion making in this should only be on what is best for him, and banning him and sending him away would almost certainly send him down a track like Ben Cousins. It’s time for everyone to realize that the leagues 3 strike policy is only there to help the player, it is nothing to do with us supporters or any prejudices we might have.

 

[CrowinNT]

There’s a poll on here, that’s what I’m mainly interested in.

Maybe a poll could be added to the original thread

 

[Bernie L]

I think we need some more comments in this thread stating there is another thread on a similar topic.

 

[Pugsley]

I think we need some more comments in this thread stating there is another thread on a similar topic.

There is another thread on this topic. Maybe we could post comments in there.

 

[Deaneus!]

Our club is a dumpster fire, why not keep him

 

[Pugsley]

Our club is a dumpster fire, why not keep him

May as well.

 

[Vhaluus]

STOP MAKING REDUNDANT THREADS.

Seriously can a mod step in at this point?!

 

[Deaneus!]

STOP MAKING REDUNDANT THREADS.

Seriously can a mod step in at this point?!

I mean, we could...

 

[Murray2503]

The AFC have obviously tried everything in the book to fire him. The fact this has dragged on so long is a testament to his manager and the AFLPA. It proves that they were wrong in trying to get rid of him and tear up his contract.

 

[MRB37]

I honestly don’t understand how anyone has an opinion on other people’s lives and issues outside of footy. This kid obviously has problems and they are causing some self destructive habits. He’s hardly the first or last to have these struggles, and for me to critisize him from the outside without knowing any of his personal circumstances would just be breathtakingly arrogant.

one thing that I’m 100% confident in though is that the absolute worse thing the AFL could do for Stengle is to cut him loose. Their desicion making in this should only be on what is best for him, and banning him and sending him away would almost certainly send him down a track like Ben Cousins. It’s time for everyone to realize that the leagues 3 strike policy is only there to help the player, it is nothing to do with us supporters or any prejudices we might have.

At least from what Nicks has been saying they won't just cut all ties with him even if he isn't playing with the club.

 

[JP Sauce]

Very crowesque to take this long.

Turns out the best outcome was already employed at the club!

 

[Bearded Clam]

I honestly don’t understand how anyone has an opinion on other people’s lives and issues outside of footy. This kid obviously has problems and they are causing some self destructive habits. He’s hardly the first or last to have these struggles, and for me to critisize him from the outside without knowing any of his personal circumstances would just be breathtakingly arrogant.

one thing that I’m 100% confident in though is that the absolute worse thing the AFL could do for Stengle is to cut him loose. Their desicion making in this should only be on what is best for him, and banning him and sending him away would almost certainly send him down a track like Ben Cousins. It’s time for everyone to realize that the leagues 3 strike policy is only there to help the player, it is nothing to do with us supporters or any prejudices we might have.

“ This kid obviously has problems and they are causing some self destructive habits.”

* me.. If enjoying a few channel nines here and there means you have “self destructive habits” then myself, pretty much all of my mates, my brother in laws and my wife and most of her friends are in trouble!..

We’ve all been doing it for many years now..

 

[John Who]

I honestly don’t understand how anyone has an opinion on other people’s lives and issues outside of footy. This kid obviously has problems and they are causing some self destructive habits. He’s hardly the first or last to have these struggles, and for me to critisize him from the outside without knowing any of his personal circumstances would just be breathtakingly arrogant.

one thing that I’m 100% confident in though is that the absolute worse thing the AFL could do for Stengle is to cut him loose. Their desicion making in this should only be on what is best for him, and banning him and sending him away would almost certainly send him down a track like Ben Cousins. It’s time for everyone to realize that the leagues 3 strike policy is only there to help the player, it is nothing to do with us supporters or any prejudices we might have.

The 3 strikes policy is mainly to:
1. Accept that relapses can occur
2. Deter repeat offenders from going too deep down the rabbit hole.

There is only so much the sporting regulators can tolerate a player of drug tendencies, and you can say the same for the club as well as supporters. However, and with your main point, we have a responsibility to help the player to not fall too deep with shame or ridicule which could perhaps worsen a drug tendency, rather than help fix.

This is probably why the decision has taken as long as it has so far - no real easy answer of which is the better path for him/club.

 

[Sanders]

Back to the SANFL for a year right? Then maybe he can come back on a rookie contract?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Back to the SANFL for a year right? Then maybe he can come back on a rookie contract?

3rd offence within a year?

 

[Sanders]

And the statement of support

Western Bulldogs statement: Bailey Smith

The Western Bulldogs wish to release the following statements on behalf of CEO Ameet Bains and Bailey Smith, in relation to content which emerged today on social media.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au