Autopsy Swans lose to Fremantle by 1 point - Round 18

[Mick Oxlong]

Freo actually had three last night- Darcy, Lobb and the Statue.

Yeah I know

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Um because it was the Grand final.

Are they played every week? Kap was pointing out the current premiers

 

[The King!]

I don’t get upset with the losses atm because i know we we are

More upset with the recruiting of late and were the list is

Bottom 4 list no doubt imo and young players who are massively overrated and champions who are cooked

List is in a shocking place imo

Yeah I’m disappointed we built the list to here with the look of a bottom side for a few years

Effort was good last night

 

[SGBeach]

Are they played every week? Kap was pointing out the current premiers

IMO.. the last two weeks has shown you need at least 1 ruck.. would like to see if Grassy can give our mids a chance

 

[Kapanis]

Yeah I’m disappointed we built the list to here with the look of a bottom side for a few years

Effort was good last night

I don't think you can under estimate how important a real ruckman will improve our side, not Sinkers quality but real quality. Planing around ways of getting the pill when you know your going to lose the ruck contest must be bloody hard, ie Allir not even contesting and acting like a rover a couple of weeks ago. Astounding we're even near beating teams ATM TBH.

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

I'm honestly happy with the result. Never making finals from day 1. Would've only put us behind on the draft. Considering our position and age I'm stoked with the way our players are applying themselves. There's not much to not love about our situation right now if you understand and accept the logic of our postion. Stick with the time. Enjoy the process and get on board with the cycle of being an AFL club. Were in a great position. Embrace it.

At this rate, Round 22 vs Dees @MCG will be a contest for Pick #2

 

[Superstar swan]

I dont think the list is as bad as what it seems..just young. A tonne of talented kids. Unfortunately when you field a team of children in a league of men, you will lose more than you win.

Short term pain for long term gain. Imo, in a few years time we will be applauding how the list was built.. it just sucks losing and fortunately we are not used to it

 

[lazy77]

I'm honestly happy with the result. Never making finals from day 1. Would've only put us behind on the draft. Considering our position and age I'm stoked with the way our players are applying themselves. There's not much to not love about our situation right now if you understand and accept the logic of our postion. Stick with the time. Enjoy the process and get on board with the cycle of being an AFL club. Were in a great position. Embrace it.

Yeah, I just love watching the team I support habitually lose to poor sides and struggle near the bottom of the ladder. So much fun. It would be great if we could embrace this process and become Carlton. Then we could enjoy this feeling year after year! Consistent losses are the best. So enjoyable.

 

[6yearsold]

Longmire deflecting from the losses with talk of runners seems a bit pathetic to me.

 

[Skeparovic]

I do question why we are holding hopes on an injury prone ruck off an ACL

Same thing was said about Reid and he has gone fairly well this year. A decent ruck would help more than anything at the moment.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Unfortunately our list was hit by the perfect storm of COLA loss, trade bans and errors of our own - paying way overs on very long contracts to basically anyone not called Buddy.

The Tippett contract, the length and reputed size of contracts to Hañners, Rohan, KJ etc have been millstones. Hopefully the Club is smarter now

 

[SGBeach]

Unfortunately our list was hit by the perfect storm of COLA loss, trade bans and errors of our own - paying way overs on very long contracts to basically anyone not called Buddy.

The Tippett contract, the length and reputed size of contracts to Hañners, Rohan, KJ etc have been millstones. Hopefully the Club is smarter now

Kinnear will be licking his lips with money and picks to play with for the first time in years

 

[The King!]

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I dont think the list is as bad as what it seems..just young. A tonne of talented kids. Unfortunately when you field a team of children in a league of men, you will lose more than you win.

Short term pain for long term gain. Imo, in a few years time we will be applauding how the list was built.. it just sucks losing and fortunately we are not used to it

It will take 3-4 years from here to build I reckon

Which is fine

 

[wills2g]

Unfortunately our list was hit by the perfect storm of COLA loss, trade bans and errors of our own - paying way overs on very long contracts to basically anyone not called Buddy.

The Tippett contract, the length and reputed size of contracts to Hañners, Rohan, KJ etc have been millstones. Hopefully the Club is smarter now

That is exactly right. It's just about expectation management. 2012, 2014, 2016 GF with a fair few prelim finals between those years so worse draft picks combined with trade bans means that the list has a massive gap in the middle between young/old.

Blokes like Hayward, Heeney and others that debuted in the glory days of 2013-2016 were beneficiaries of a strong Sydney side so everything they did looked good and we thought they would become god tier players. Imagine putting some of the youngsters Geelong fielded this year into this Sydney side.. doubt they would perform that much better.

However, there are exciting times ahead. Rowbottom is going to be a star - a better midfielder than Heeney or Mills would ever become. Dawson, Blakey, Paps, Hayward (eventually) are all in that same boat.

In my opinion, the biggest issues are putting games into young players that haven't shown much like Florent, Melican etc

 

[Mick Oxlong]

IMO.. the last two weeks has shown you need at least 1 ruck.. would like to see if Grassy can give our mids a chance

And that has what to do with me?

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Kinnear will be licking his lips with money and picks to play with for the first time in years

Beatson does trades, Dalrymple does drafting.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Yeah, I just love watching the team I support habitually lose to poor sides and struggle near the bottom of the ladder. So much fun. It would be great if we could embrace this process and become Carlton. Then we could enjoy this feeling year after year! Consistent losses are the best. So enjoyable.

Oh sheesh. We’ve been up for getting on to twenty years.

Guess you weren’t following us in the 80s and 90s.

We’ll be back.

 

[SGBeach]

And that has what to do with me?

Not sure.. You were the last to post debating two rucks?

 

[RW]

It will take 3-4 years from here to build I reckon

Which is fine

Might be quicker if we can somehow engineer another 2009 trade/draft period.

 

[SGBeach]

Beatson does trades, Dalrymple does drafting.

They'll both be licking their lips

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Kinnear will be licking his lips with money and picks to play with for the first time in years

Let’s hope we don’t waste them!

Actually draft a genuine mid please

 

[SGBeach]

Let’s hope we don’t waste them!

Actually draft a genuine mid please

wouldn't mind trading a genuine mid who's up and going round 1

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Not sure.. You were the last to post debating two rucks?

And that’s got what to do with 1 ruck?

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Let’s hope we don’t waste them!

Actually draft a genuine mid please

They did last year, that Rowbottom kid.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

wouldn't mind trading a genuine mid who's up and going round 1

Yuck. No shortcuts please.

Take our top 2 picks to the draft- they will be inside the top 30.