News Swans Talk in the Media: 2021

[caesar88]

In the mix, R4: Who's pushing for selection, who's under the pump?

Our reporters attempt to pick all the round four ins and outs

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Gives me legit goosebumps that we might actually have our best 22 on the whole list in the team this week.

 

[Punts]

Gives me legit goosebumps that we might actually have our best 22 on the whole list in the team this week.

Not when jmac gets dropped and imo fox is best 22

 

[caesar88]

Not when jmac gets dropped and imo fox is best 22

Huge fan of both those guys but I also think neither were quite locks, so their positions were up for grabs and the guys who have filled them have grabbed them.

 

[brad cooper]

More Victorian anti-Academy bias

‘What price do they pay?’ - Swans’ scorching start reignites AFL academy debate

‘What price do they pay?’: The Swans’ scorching start just reignited fierce AFL debate

www.foxsports.com.au

Of course no mention of the fact the bulldogs got Ugle-Hagan with pick 1 via their academy.

 

[Punts]

Huge fan of both those guys but I also think neither were quite locks, so their positions were up for grabs and the guys who have filled them have grabbed them.

Only reason Blakey is getting games like last year is because he can potentially pull thibgs other players can’t and seem to be waiting to have this break out game IMO

Jamc far more consistent imo

 

[caesar88]

Only reason Blakey is getting games like last year is because he can potentially pull thibgs other players can’t and seem to be waiting to have this break out game IMO

Jamc far more consistent imo

Yeah that's fair actually I forgot about Blakey. Don't think he is in our best 22 as McInerney is better atm.

So yeah I probably still won't get my 22 out there lol

 

[SGBeach]

Rowbum trained a couple of days ago, needs to get through tonights session to be fit to play
Naismith starts full training this week.. sounds like he'll be ready in as little as a few weeks. Ruck depth - an unknown luxury

 

[MightyBloods]

I thought most of what Scott said was pretty fair, although I did laugh when he said 'I think the big victorian clubs just want an even system across the board'.

Ummm, no they don't.

They want every built-in advantage that favours the big victorian clubs to stay, and any advantage another club gets to be removed.

Did Scott happen to mention the father/son rule that helped them secure some premierships (Scarlett, Ablett Jnr, Hawkins etc)? I guess not.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Huge fan of both those guys but I also think neither were quite locks, so their positions were up for grabs and the guys who have filled them have grabbed them.

I actually think we have a best 27.
Saturday's team plus:
Bud
Rowy
Hayward
Fox
Stephens
Bringing any of those in is no big loss
Melican, Bell and Ling are very close to that and Sinclair and Ronke are still handy.
Gould has me puzzled.
Not too shabby.

 

[hairy biker]

Article on Mills' midfield move;

Move to the midfield has star Swan flying

High draft pick Callum Mills is relishing new role on the ball

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" should it have happened sooner? "
"(as a HB) ranked ‘elite’ by Champion Data for both intercept marks and intercept possessions. "

 

[bedford]

I don’t think you understood the context that it was shown Bedford.

The banter wasn’t the focus, it was how disorganised the Richmond defence was and how we choose to pull apart their defenders, even just by playing some mind games with them.


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Thanks mate , all good nothing wrong with sledging

 

[bedford]

Pridham has had a fair crack tonight a bit Colless like

 

[Ticky009]

Pridham has had a fair crack tonight a bit Colless like

On what show Bedders?

 

[caesar88]

Not sure if this is what you're referring to bedders but worth sharing anyway:

No Cookies | Daily Telegraph

We're for Sydney

www.dailytelegraph.com.au

 

[caesar88]

FFS it showed up fine for me and I'm not even signed up to that.


Sydney chairman Andrew Pridham has lashed out at critics of the club’s academy system, adamant the league would have to disband the father-son system before it watered down the Swans’ talent pathway.
Pridham told the Herald Sun Victorian clubs bleating about Sydney’s development were always silent about the huge advantages of their own father-sons and next generation academies.

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No one wanted Sam Wicks, so the Swans swooped. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
He said Geelong and Collingwood had accepted huge concessions regarding the draft and cost of living without complaint from rival sides.

Sydney must bid for their players in the same way as the father-son system, having injected $10 million into their own academy over 11 years.

The Swans have only drafted or rookied 13 of the 3000 players to go through that system, with Pridham saying the criticism was tired and predictable.

“Collingwood have five father-sons and another on the way and two next generation academy picks,” he told the Herald Sun.

“We have outrageously rookied a kid like Sam Wicks who no one else picked. Go figure. As for Geelong if you talk about advantages, my god they have (Patrick) Dangerfield, Jeremy Cameron, (Gary) Rohan, (Isaac) Smith, they are in a town that houses the Geelong Falcons. They have players keen to play there and it’s so cheap to live there. They are spending 300 bucks a week to live in an eight-bedroom house. The bottom line is it has never been a level playing field.

“So anyone who is attacking us and wants to see anything happen to the academies, you could say goodbye to the father-son system.”

Errol Gulden has lived up top his high draft billing. Picture: Getty Images
Geelong coach Chris Scott said on Monday night he supported generating young talent in NSW but said the question was how much Sydney paid in draft value.

“If we look through it logically, a lot of the population is in Sydney and a lot of the talent is there and if they can harness the sporting talent – I think most of us would know who played when we were in Year 10 or 11, the best cricketers were also the best footy players, who are best rugby players,” he said.

“I think the key question for the competition is ‘what price do they pay?’’

The Swans secured best mates Braeden Campbell (pick 6) and Errol Gulden (pick 32) as academy selections this year, with Gulden’s father saying he wouldn’t be playing AFL if not for the academy.

Pridham said the only reason the academy system was introduced a decade ago was because there were barely any players being produced from out of NSW.

Carlton’s Luke Parks made his AFL debut this week having graduated from the Sydney academy.

“No kids were getting drafted from NSW or Queensland. So you have got to develop talent. They go into the draft and people can pick them up and if they don’t, they forever hold your peace,” he said.

Braeden Campbell is proving to be a steal at pick No.32. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
“We have 780 kids in the academy. 480 are boys and the rest are girls. We have had 3000 kids through academies. And less than half of one per cent make their way to the AFL. So the rest go to local leagues, they umpire, some go to play SANFL or WAFL. Everyone has an academy and we actually do something for our kids.

“Strategically it’s pretty important and there was noise about it which is why the AFL brought in a bidding system. We have had some very limited success in winning three games and then clubs start throwing stones.

“The thing that has always frustrated me is that if you look at things through a Victorian lens, if it is seen to have advantaged non-Victorian clubs it’s an unfair advantage.

“If it benefits a club like Geelong or Collingwood, it’s tradition. Like the father-son system.”

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan backed the northern academies system last month.

“The debate in Victoria has been the price you pay. I think the success of the academies is there for everyone to see.”

 

[Punts]

Campbell wasn’t taken at pick 32

 

[BlueRoses]

They mixed up gulden and campbell
" Errol Gulden has lived up top his high draft billing."

 

[hairy biker]

"Pridham told the Herald Sun Victorian clubs bleating about Sydney’s development were always silent about the huge advantages of their own father-sons and next generation academies. "

That is an odd argument from Pridham.
ALL clubs have access to F/S selections and given the changes to the NGA drafting rules as from next year I also wouldn't be mentioning them, in case those rules are extended to our academy.

What we need to focus on is areas such as competitive advantage (eg go home factor, off-field opportunities, fixturing inequities, marquee games etc) and the value of the academies growing the game in NSW/QLD.

 

[rustycrate]

That is an odd argument from Pridham.
ALL clubs have access to F/S selections and given the changes to the NGA drafting rules as from next year I also wouldn't be mentioning them, in case those rules are extended to our academy.

What we need to focus on is areas such as competitive advantage (eg go home factor, off-field opportunities, fixturing inequities, marquee games etc) and the value of the academies growing the game in NSW/QLD.

When do you think Gold Coast will get their first F/S?

 

[swansfan51]

We still have the same salary cap the other 17 teams have

I believe we still get the rental subsidy (along with GWS) which was $15k per player up to a certain threshold

 

[SwansProudly]

Have the young Bloods of 2021 been compared to the 1993 Bomber babies?

 

[BloodySwan]

That is an odd argument from Pridham.
ALL clubs have access to F/S selections and given the changes to the NGA drafting rules as from next year I also wouldn't be mentioning them, in case those rules are extended to our academy.

What we need to focus on is areas such as competitive advantage (eg go home factor, off-field opportunities, fixturing inequities, marquee games etc) and the value of the academies growing the game in NSW/QLD.

Sydney F/S won't develop if there's no pathway for them. Blakey didn't become a top 10 pick through sheer luck

 

[HPKS]

Sydney F/S won't develop if there's no pathway for them. Blakey didn't become a top 10 pick through sheer luck

This is so true. Development is very very very important, without it done correctly you have what Melbourne was for a long time a waistland of junior talent. Correct junior development is the difference between making it and being just a local player.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

That is an odd argument from Pridham.
ALL clubs have access to F/S selections and given the changes to the NGA drafting rules as from next year I also wouldn't be mentioning them, in case those rules are extended to our academy.

What we need to focus on is areas such as competitive advantage (eg go home factor, off-field opportunities, fixturing inequities, marquee games etc) and the value of the academies growing the game in NSW/QLD.

Two of our potential F/S selections opted to stay in Victoria and I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Another one was lured to a big Victorian club and has connections in Melbourne.

F/S is fair in theory but when they player is brought up in Melbourne and playing in Melbourne then obviously they’ll lean towards the Melbourne based club. That’s why I feel no guilt at all in regards to getting Blakey, I just wish he was playing well enough to piss people off.


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[SwansProudly]

Two of our potential F/S selections opted to stay in Victoria and I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Another one was lured to a big Victorian club and has connections in Melbourne.

F/S is fair in theory but when they player is brought up in Melbourne and playing in Melbourne then obviously they’ll lean towards the Melbourne based club. That’s why I feel no guilt at all in regards to getting Blakey, I just wish he was playing well enough to piss people off.


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But technically didn't Blakey come as an academy rather than F/S?