Media Swans Talk in the Media 2022

[caesar88]

Interesting stat by the Mongrel Punt

"20 disposals for Florent and the Swans win – it’s a thing… look it up."

I'm sure it is a thing, but it's a weird, misguided point to make as they have it the wrong way around. Their implication is that we play well because Florent's numbers are up. In reality, Florent's numbers are up because we play well. I am a Florent fan but he's a low-possession, mostly outside player. If he's getting a lot of the ball then it means the team is going pretty strong.

I like their work but I feel like they just really like Florent (so do most of us!) and are using that figure to justify it, when in reality our 68% winning record when Florent gets 20+ touches has him behind other young mids like McInerney (90%)(!), Rowbottom & Warner (both 70%), so it's just not that remarkable.

 

[hairy biker]

Interesting stat by the Mongrel Punt

"20 disposals for Florent and the Swans win – it’s a thing… look it up."

I did in fact look it up;
Florent 2022 3 games of 20 or more = 3 wins v GWS, NM, Ess
Florent 2021 9 games of 20 or more = 7 wins v Adel, Rich, Ess, Gee, Carlton, WCE, Gold Coast 2 LOSSES v Gold Coast, Freo
Florent 2020 6 games of 20 or more = 3 wins v Adel, NM, Haw 3 LOSSES v Ess, WCE, St Kilda
Florent 2019 9 games of 20 or more = 4 wins v NM, WCE, Gold Coast, Melb 5 LOSSES v Melb, Rich, Geel, GWS, Port
Florent 2018 8 games of 20 or more = 7 wins v Haw, Freo, Bris, Carl, St K, WCE, NM 1 LOSS v WCE
(2017 nil games over 20)

So overall 35 games of 20 or more = 24 wins & 11 losses (68%)
Career overall 102 games 52 wins, losses 50 (51%)

So Ollie has a better record when he gets 20 or more disposals, but still a win ratio of less than 70%.
And as Kiama Chris and caesar88 point out correlation, not causation and his record is in fact below other players.

I'm going to call this;

 

[Ticky009]

Do not want.

I wouldn't get too stressed about the Dusty rumour. Tony Sheehan is the same bloke who 'alerted' us all to the fact Hall, Leo and Roosy didn't attend the 2012 Premiership reunion.

Totally missing of course the fact that none of them actually played or coached in said Premiership. As bedford so eloquently put it - the bloke is a trash reporter.

 

[SGBeach]

I did in fact look it up;
Florent 2022 3 games of 20 or more = 3 wins v GWS, NM, Ess
Florent 2021 9 games of 20 or more = 7 wins v Adel, Rich, Ess, Gee, Carlton, WCE, Gold Coast 2 LOSSES v Gold Coast, Freo
Florent 2020 6 games of 20 or more = 3 wins v Adel, NM, Haw 3 LOSSES v Ess, WCE, St Kilda
Florent 2019 9 games of 20 or more = 4 wins v NM, WCE, Gold Coast, Melb 5 LOSSES v Melb, Rich, Geel, GWS, Port
Florent 2018 8 games of 20 or more = 7 wins v Haw, Freo, Bris, Carl, St K, WCE, NM 1 LOSS v WCE
(2017 nil games over 20)

So overall 35 games of 20 or more = 24 wins & 11 losses (68%)
Career overall 102 games 52 wins, losses 50 (51%)

So Ollie has a better record when he gets 20 or more disposals, but still a win ratio of less than 70%.
And as Kiama Chris and caesar88 point out correlation, not causation and his record is in fact below other players.

I'm going to call this;
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hmm.. maybe not. Is there more to this equation!!?
2018/21/22
Florent(20+) - 17 wins & 3 losses. Thats a pretty good 85%
Swans - 35 wins & 18 losses. Thats only 66%
2019/20 (remember those great years)
Florent(20+) - 7 wins & 8 losses. Thats a pretty s**t 47%, but still heaps better than..
Swans - 13 wins & 26 losses. Thats a really s**t 33%

So, when Florent gets the ball, the Swans win a lot more..
way too late at night!

 

[SwansProudly]

Isaac Heeney

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14.3

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starts 30 mins

 

[Ticky009]

Oof. Caro not happy

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Wilson blasts Parker’s ‘un-Swans like’ taunting of Shiel

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Swans star slammed for ‘arrogant’ act

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[kickthething]

Oof. Caro not happy

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Wilson blasts Parker’s ‘un-Swans like’ taunting of Shiel

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Swans star slammed for ‘arrogant’ act

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[caesar88]

Oof. Caro not happy

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Wilson blasts Parker’s ‘un-Swans like’ taunting of Shiel

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Swans star slammed for ‘arrogant’ act

www.foxsports.com.au

Thank you for the link Ticky but you didn't have to start listing her personality traits.

 

[wizcapper]

Oof. Caro not happy

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Wilson blasts Parker’s ‘un-Swans like’ taunting of Shiel

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Swans star slammed for ‘arrogant’ act

www.foxsports.com.au

Silly old drama queen

 

[Crust]

I listened to the podcast at lunch.
Caro didn't get a lot of support from the others. Jake Niall and someone else.

 

[bedford]

Said Sydney is her 2nd team !

 

[DobmusEdge]

I did in fact look it up;
Florent 2022 3 games of 20 or more = 3 wins v GWS, NM, Ess
Florent 2021 9 games of 20 or more = 7 wins v Adel, Rich, Ess, Gee, Carlton, WCE, Gold Coast 2 LOSSES v Gold Coast, Freo
Florent 2020 6 games of 20 or more = 3 wins v Adel, NM, Haw 3 LOSSES v Ess, WCE, St Kilda
Florent 2019 9 games of 20 or more = 4 wins v NM, WCE, Gold Coast, Melb 5 LOSSES v Melb, Rich, Geel, GWS, Port
Florent 2018 8 games of 20 or more = 7 wins v Haw, Freo, Bris, Carl, St K, WCE, NM 1 LOSS v WCE
(2017 nil games over 20)

So overall 35 games of 20 or more = 24 wins & 11 losses (68%)
Career overall 102 games 52 wins, losses 50 (51%)

So Ollie has a better record when he gets 20 or more disposals, but still a win ratio of less than 70%.
And as Kiama Chris and caesar88 point out correlation, not causation and his record is in fact below other players.

I'm going to call this;
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And yet we never lost to WCE in 2018

 

[hairy biker]

And yet we never lost to WCE in 2018

My mistake. Ollie's 20 possie+ loss was to Port in 2018 (rd2, we beat WCE in rd1).

 

[GoTheSwannies]

With Ollie, it's just a case that he sees the ball when we're dominating rather than being the reason for it. To me, it signals that he needs to find a way to get involved when the team aren't going too well or find a way to influence the game.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Oof. Caro not happy

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Wilson blasts Parker’s ‘un-Swans like’ taunting of Shiel

‘Juvenile, nasty and a bit of a bully’: Swans star slammed for ‘arrogant’ act

www.foxsports.com.au

Caro:
“I heard (Giants veteran) Phil Davis on commentary say, ‘Luke Parker has got that in him, he’s got that niggly side,’ but I have never seen that in Luke Parker,” she said.

Caro proves she doesn't know what she's talking about and like most of her opinions, it's based on limited info or basically makes things up. Of course parker niggles you moron, it's not a freaking knitting club. She should comment on politics if she wants to talk about diplomacy.

 

[SwansProudly]

Longmire

"We touched on it as part of the review, we didn't talk about it for too long at all.
"Luke's record speaks for itself, he's a wonderful servant for our footy club and plays it in the right way and that's the way he'll continue to play."

...

Longmire believed Sydney put up a strong case to the Tribunal but accepted the decision.

...
Martin

"We haven't spoken about him, so I'm not sure what that leaves us," Longmire said.
"It's not something we've discussed.
"I don't comment on players from our club and their contract status so I certainly don't comment on players from other clubs."

'Not sure it's relevant': Horse bemused by reaction to Parker taunt

Sydney coach John Longmire remains perplexed how Luke Parker's taunt of Essendon's Dylan Shiel turned into a major issue

www.afl.com.au

 

[V9x18]

Horse wouldn't have liked that from Parker imo

 

[bedford]

Horse wouldn't have liked that from Parker imo

Lets move on

 

[Ticky009]

Media for the Day:

Swans 7th youngest in the League
Swans 5th in average games played

Top-four surprise packets: Which teams are youngest this season?

Which club has been the youngest, and which has been the least experienced so far in 2022?

www.afl.com.au

Restricted Content - The Mongrel Punt

Content from our archives commencing with the 2018 season is restricted to members only. Gotta look after the people that look after us. Want a peek?

themongrelpunt.com

Sydney-based clubs would “be silly” not to explore Dustin Martin trade

Martin is contracted to Richmond until the end of 2024.

www.sen.com.au

‘I absolutely support Luke’: Swans coach jumps to Parker’s defence, deadbats Dusty links

Sydney coach John Longmire has leapt to the defence of Luke Parker after he was criticised for mocking Essendon’s Dylan Shiel, while refusing to bite on growing speculation Dustin Martin could seek a move to the Swans.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Ticky009]

 

[bedford]

General discussion lol , mine was moved earlier .

 

[Ticky009]

General discussion lol , mine was moved earlier .

Repeat after me. I am not the thread police.

 

[bedford]

Repeat after me. I am not the thread police.

Are you sure ? please thread police come clean

 

[Kapers]

We the Western bulldogs now?


Keep other colours out of the jumper please.

 

[Crust]

We the Western bulldogs now?


Keep other colours out of the jumper please.

The original Indigenous Round Guernsey was designed by Goodes's mother. It had pale blue, too, representing Sydney, and to a lesser extent, NSW.