Media Swans Talk in the Media 2025

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[Adnico26Parker]

Everybody's favourite Swans player, Will Hayward, on SEN SA this afternoon

Audio:

 

[giantsully]

Gerard Healy with another editorial on Sports day about the Northern academies , this one was a fair crack at St Scum , worth a listen

I guess I'm biased but I confess I don't get the "nepo baby" gag - how are they AFL's nepos? Cause they have an academy that dares to produce good footballers that the competition desperately needs and means they can exist without just being a feeding incubator for Melbourne clubs?

 

[Bloods86]

I guess I'm biased but I confess I don't get the "nepo baby" gag - how are they AFL's nepos? Cause they have an academy that dares to produce good footballers that the competition desperately needs and means they can exist without just being a feeding incubator for Melbourne clubs?

Expansion club, probably a jibe at whether it deserved to be GC or whether they deserve perceived assistance.

Odd coming from a club heavily reliant on additional funds.

 

[kickthething]

I guess I'm biased but I confess I don't get the "nepo baby" gag - how are they AFL's nepos? Cause they have an academy that dares to produce good footballers that the competition desperately needs and means they can exist without just being a feeding incubator for Melbourne clubs?

It’s all positioning as the next couple of drafts are looking weak by all reports…this will ramp up.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Expansion club, probably a jibe at whether it deserved to be GC or whether they deserve perceived assistance.

Odd coming from a club heavily reliant on additional funds.

Wait till you see what Tassie wants wowee

 

[bedford]

Bucks on SEN now going through the teams like us and around . Another good fair listen and a small mention of Bloods

 

[Adnico26Parker]

 

[bedford]

Lachlan McKirdy with a pathetic content piece on this weeks fixturing with 2 games in Sydney . Reckons it stop fans of say the Swans going to the Giants game , what a joke

 

[Jewelsbon]

Lachlan McKirdy with a pathetic content piece on this weeks fixturing with 2 games in Sydney . Reckons it stop fans of say the Swans going to the Giants game , what a joke

Why? It's absolutely true. When I lived in the metro area I was a member of both and went to games nearly every weekend.

 

[Tedeski]

I guess I'm biased but I confess I don't get the "nepo baby" gag - how are they AFL's nepos? Cause they have an academy that dares to produce good footballers that the competition desperately needs and means they can exist without just being a feeding incubator for Melbourne clubs?

Yet Ross delisted Collins at Freo.

 

[giantsully]

It’s all positioning as the next couple of drafts are looking weak by all reports…this will ramp up.

Maybe, but what I found bizarre was no one pushed back on the categorisation - most commentators felt it was poor form from Lyons, but only because of the timing and context, not because it's a pretty asinine thing to say. So, all expansion teams are nepo babies? What does that mean, they shouldn't be allowed? Bit late for that now.

Or is it only those expansion teams with successful academies? In which case, how does that make them AFL's pets? And don't we want to support the academies?

I just found the whole dialogue around this very strange.

 

[Arwib]

Self promotion here - I dug into the Swans free kick ratio and where it comes from

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[melbournehammer]

Self promotion here - I dug into the Swans free kick ratio and where it comes from

Round 12 2025 – This Week In Football

This Week In Football is a collection of some of the best in football currently outside the walls of AFL clubs or broadcasters. Each week a curated grab bag from regular contributors and special guests will provide insight into and beyond the game on subjects of their choosing. For more about...

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this would be a good subject to conduct a multinomial regression on - I'd reckon crowds are a huge factor and that the fact that the four northern clubs which arguably have the least intimidating crowds have 4 out of 7 of the worst differentials has a major impact.

the really interesting one is why there are five clubs with massive positives and then everything else is largely neutral or grossly negative. it might be worth testing a different hypothesis that good/ bad teams have different free kick ratios ?

 

[Arwib]

this would be a good subject to conduct a multinomial regression on - I'd reckon crowds are a huge factor and that the fact that the four northern clubs which arguably have the least intimidating crowds have 4 out of 7 of the worst differentials has a major impact.

the really interesting one is why there are five clubs with massive positives and then everything else is largely neutral or grossly negative. it might be worth testing a different hypothesis that good/ bad teams have different free kick ratios ?

Crowds are the main factor in HGA, but we're not at the lower end for crowd size and partisanness, our home games are mostly our fans and our crowds are league average or higher. There's a bunch of Vic clubs who get 15 or 20k people at half their games and often have a heap of away fans there as well.

Definitely not a key factor for the negative Swans differentia, our home vs away free split is fairly typical.

 

[kickthething]

Maybe, but what I found bizarre was no one pushed back on the categorisation - most commentators felt it was poor form from Lyons, but only because of the timing and context, not because it's a pretty asinine thing to say. So, all expansion teams are nepo babies? What does that mean, they shouldn't be allowed? Bit late for that now.

Or is it only those expansion teams with successful academies? In which case, how does that make them AFL's pets? And don't we want to support the academies?

I just found the whole dialogue around this very strange.

i think the response to Lyon was simply because the target was the GC. If he assumed the same argument to Sydney he would have been supported

 

[bedford]

i think the response to Lyon was simply because the target was the GC. If he assumed the same argument to Sydney he would have been supported

No he wouldn't , many people here and some in the media believe St Scum have brought everything on themselves with poor recruiting and management and was all this a deflection on how shit they are
We better beat them

 

[bedford]

One thing missed in the media today was a story in the HS about tackling and tackling breakers
The story starts with quotes by Jude Bolton

Jude Bolton

Age

45

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.9

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

8.4

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

3.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.8

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

on our tackling this season compared to what they used to do and rate , it's damming really , shows he's pissed off
It shows that Rampe is our most affective tackler at 73%
Florent is the worst at 53%
Chad Warner

1

Chad Warner

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

is clearly our best tackle breaker
Cleary is our worst for missed tackles

 

[caesar88]

One thing missed in the media today was a story in the HS about tackling and tackling breakers
The story starts with quotes by Jude Bolton on our tackling this season compared to what they used to do and rate , it's damming really , shows he's pissed off
It shows that Rampe is our most affective tackler at 73%
Florent is the worst at 53%
Chad Warner is clearly our best tackle breaker
Cleary is our worst for missed tackles

With all due respect, the numbers included are kinda cooked.

Of course someone who generally tackles more than the rest like Cleary is going to have a higher number of tackles missed, and of course someone who generally tries to break every tackle he faces like Warner is going to have a higher number of tackles broken. It doesn't factor in all of the tackles that Warner gets caught in (which are a lot), or the tackles that Cleary has made (which are a lot - he averages the second-most of any Swan.)

 

[bedford]

With all due respect, the numbers included are kinda cooked.

Of course someone who generally tackles more than the rest like Cleary is going to have a higher number of tackles missed, and of course someone who generally tries to break every tackle he faces like Warner is going to have a higher number of tackles broken. It doesn't factor in all of the tackles that Warner gets caught in (which are a lot), or the tackles that Cleary has made (which are a lot - he averages the second-most of any Swan.)

It's more about what Jude describes how they did it , maybe the Bloods way back then , certainly not now

 

[caesar88]

It's more about what Jude describes how they did it , maybe the Bloods way back then , certainly not now

Don't disagree with that.

 

[bedford]

Don't disagree with that.

I have for many years say i barrack for the Bloods , now i say Sydney Swans

 

[kickthething]

wtf is the filter AFL360 are using w horse…it’s a shocker.

 

[kickthething]

With all due respect, the numbers included are kinda cooked.

Of course someone who generally tackles more than the rest like Cleary is going to have a higher number of tackles missed, and of course someone who generally tries to break every tackle he faces like Warner is going to have a higher number of tackles broken. It doesn't factor in all of the tackles that Warner gets caught in (which are a lot), or the tackles that Cleary has made (which are a lot - he averages the second-most of any Swan.)

I don’t quite follow the logic.

The missed tackle comment is not correct, it doesn’t follow that it must be the case, in fact, it may highlight a flaw in his tackling ability, after all, the more you do you should improve, unless you have a consistently poor technique. Warner has a higher number of broken tackles because he tries to break more tackles…well, yeah, of course. If you don’t try to break tackles you won’t.

The numbers are not cooked at all, they actually reflect the situation.

 

[caesar88]

I don’t quite follow the logic.

The missed tackle comment is not correct, it doesn’t follow that it must be the case, in fact, it may highlight a flaw in his tackling ability, after all, the more you do you should improve, unless you have a consistently poor technique. Warner has a higher number of broken tackles because he tries to break more tackles…well, yeah, of course. If you don’t try to break tackles you won’t.

The numbers are not cooked at all, they actually reflect the situation.

Apply the exact same logic as the bolded to trying to make tackles. If you don't go for tackles, you won't miss as many. Cleary has a high-tackle role, so he is going for more tackles than most players in the team. They didn't use Cleary's missed tackles or Warner's broken tackles as percentages, they used them as totals.

 

[rustycrate]

Gerard Healy with another editorial on Sports day about the Northern academies , this one was a fair crack at St Scum , worth a listen