Autopsy Swans vs Eagles

[The King!]

Also, **** the AFL app, why the **** aren't stats available yet

Grundy runs the app

 

[GotTheGoodes]

I'd agree with that, I think there were times tonight when the players didn't realise how much of a chance they were. I'm more saying that we can still be a defensively oriented side yet take the game on when we have the opportunity, like Kennelly used to do with his runs.

DoubleA had a few attempted irishmen runs which was nice to see... I just don't think we could risk undoing our positions quickly on the possibility of a turnocer too often. IMO that's when we're at our weakest.

 

[The King!]

Positives:
Kennedy and Reid the pick of the senior blokes. Kennedy again carrying the midfield and thought Reid's stats didn't quite show justice for his game.

Marsh, Newman and Hayward were very impressive from the young guys.

The effort was there, but if we don't crack a win soon it won't be long before the energy is gone and we start getting belted.

Negatives:

Marsh is the only thing holding the defence together at the moment. Grundy still intercepts well, he needs to learn his foot skills are shit house and play within his limitations...he shouldn't even be attempting finesse 15m kicks. Infact nearly every single 15m kick from all our players was a turnover....just learn from mistakes please, it seems we never learn from our mistakes. Our structural flaws 3 years ago, are still our structural flaws today..only difference is the star power is reduced so the cracks aren't being covered anymore.

Footskills are deplorable, and our setup does not help out anyone. To many players flood back and stand in no mans land leaving us no release kicks out of defence. Don't even get me started on the forward setup. We are playing a FAR too negative game-style that is completely devoid of any attacking flair that would generally even slightly begin to trouble an opposition coach. Our players mark the ball. Stop. Think for a full 20 seconds, while the opposition set up. Get under pressure when called to play on and bomb wide or (try) chip to a nothing lead anyway.
Goals create energy, release the shackles a little bit ffs. Allow them to take a few risks, go down the middle once in a while. Plenty of kick-ins we had something on down the middle but instead went predictably to a wide (yet still somehow out ******* numbered, despite the fact it's our play every single time) contest.

The state of the game is utter crap. Losing is one thing, but the actual game itself is ******!
-Umpires are completely useless and incompetent ....2 identical instances 30 seconds apart won't be adjudicated the same way. The standard of umpiring is getting worse and worse every year.
-Dropping the ball and throwing the ball are running rampant and clearly being let go purely because it might the AFL thinks the fans are complete simpletons and need 100 to 100 scores every week...but they will pluck one out of nowhere every now and then when it suits them (despite the fact 50 identical ones have been let go) which completely ****s the momentum for one team.
-Still have some blokes being rewarded for ducking pathetically.
-Don't even get me started on the random deliberates they pluck our nowhere.

The sport is just in an absolutely awful condition, becoming almost unwatchable.

I agree with the last bit. Even non swans game, the games currently shit to watch compared to other years

 

[CD__]

Id trade any of hanners parker or jack in a heartbeat for him

Jack absolutely I think he's pretty much cooked, despite Hannebery and Parker both being ordinary tonight though i'll back them in to find top form again. And their best is both a a fair bit better than Tom's best.

 

[MarkP]

win what exactly? best role as over dramatic fan?

I am not the least surprised buy all this, i have faith in the club and the coaches. I think people are acting a tad precious, who knows things could turn around. But looking at the context of the injuries and the new young players I am not in hysterics about a lost season. i am with the coaches and thinking of the future.

I bet if we play the way you would like us to play with this current team we would be getting flogged by a good 15+ goals each week.

Good for you son.

Luckily, if you are right, we will never know.

But you hang in there. Your insights fascinate me.

 

[Membling]

Id trade any of hanners parker or jack in a heartbeat for him

Prefer any of Shiel, Whitfield or Congolio insteaf.

 

[The King!]

I think we need to be. Our biggest weakness for me is the fast spread from a turnover. The risk we take on to go on the offensive more often outweighs the benefit at this stage. Once we get some body on Florent & co & some extra games into doubleA, Marsh etc I think we can push to be more creative. ATM tho we are risking too much to do so.

We are embarrassing when it comes to hitting a target espeically out of defence

 

[The King!]

Prefer any of Shiel, Whitfield or Congolio insteaf.

Well shit yeah

 

[Kapanis]

We are missing 1 player from the midfield, maybe 2 if you really stretch it. The core of the midfield is still there.

Calm down RUNVS, think straight, think again. Breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out.

 

[The King!]

Jack absolutely I think he's pretty much cooked, despite Hannebery and Parker both being ordinary tonight though i'll back them in to find top form again. And their best is both a a fair bit better than Tom's best.

Hannebery maybe, though he is overrated on here
Parker yet to see evidence of this

 

[BloodySwan]

One kick means the rest are all brilliant?

I like lloyd he does a role. But he butchers a lot of kicks

Grundy was a real butcher tonight. Resulted in a number of goals off his own boot

 

[Tuco]

5: GWS (H)
6: Carlton (A)
7: Brisbane (H)
8: North (A)
9: St Kilda (A)
10: Hawks (H)
11: Bye

Could win 4 of those which would put us at 4-6 at the bye. Seasons not over yet.

Wow. What an awesome bunch of cripple fights coming up.

Hope we figure out how to kick a winning score in time for the BYE. That's looking like a danger game.

 

[mikey_san]

I like Foote in that sort of role personally.

On the ground yeah, but doesnt have much overhead so no for mine.
We ight have to convert a neafl forward or a B Jack might be a possible?

 

[Zaky]

I learnt if you download the crownbet app on your ipad you can watch AFL live for free. **** you AFL..stick it to the ma..oh crown.

 

[CD__]

Hannebery maybe, though he is overrated on here
Parker yet to see evidence of this

Hanners won a coaches MVP which is arguably the most prestigious award in football. I can't envisage Tom ever winning one of those.

Parker's best is damaging with his overhead marking and ability to hit the scoreboard but they've both been completely non-existent this season.

 

[Membling]

Well shit yeah

That is the calibre of player we need.

Spread, carry and delivery.

I feel that Florent can eventually provide some polish from the middle. Need another two or so players to complement

Long term centre with Heeney, Parker and Hewett with Florent and Mills on wing with another two outside players to rotate and inside player as HFF

 

[The King!]

Grundy was a real butcher tonight. Resulted in a number of goals off his own boot

I agree, Grundy was one of the eagles best


What I am getting at is if lloyd is one of main ball winners we are struggling, he is a limited player, HOWEVER he never gives up and busts his guts, runs hard, just cant kick that well, ideally he should be a role player, not mr 29 touches carrying the load

 

[BloodySwan]

I learnt if you download the crownbet app on your ipad you can watch AFL live for free. **** you AFL..stick it to the ma..oh crown.

Yep they put gambling agencies over everyone else

 

[SilentHunter_]

Letting mitchell go has been a ****ing disaster! We just can't get it on the outside from a stoppage it is actually painful to watch because it is so obvious that we just can't get it out of there cleanly. A guy that can burst out of the stoppage with speed would help with that.

 

[Keyter]

Did you see how calm our coaches box was? They are already playing the long game. Year of the kids. Elite mid draft pick. Flag run next year.

might have a go at trading up for a 2nd pick in top 12 or so - a number good KPF up for grabs up there as well.

Tonight the Kids were up & down but doing well, good experience traveling & playing in WA. Florent might need a let up soon though. Newman building confidence, even the maligned Marsh is finding his feet and the Foote could do likewise, with some more time. Hang in there. Swans got to put there head down, work hard and cull the dead wood.

 

[Zaky]

Grundy was a real butcher tonight. Resulted in a number of goals off his own boot

Looks lost without a partner in crime. In the past he has had Ted and Dane, now he is like an old laconic cop trying to deal with the young rookies.

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Grundy was a real butcher tonight. Resulted in a number of goals off his own boot

Ahhhhh just like the old days.....

 

[The King!]

That is the calibre of player we need.

Spread, carry and delivery.

I feel that Florent can eventually provide some polish from the middle. Need another two or so players to complement

Long term centre with Heeney, Parker and Hewett with Florent and Mills on wing with another two outside players to rotate and inside player as HFF

Yes I agree, but we had hannebery parker and mitchell and paid 2 and didnt pay the other, we got that wrong imo, but yeah we still lack a star with polish

Jpk is a contested superstar

Lets hope the kids kick on'

Maybe its time mills joined the midfield full time, he has all this potential and to be brutal he stinks in defence right now

 

[BloodySwan]

I agree, Grundy was one of the eagles best


What I am getting at is if lloyd is one of main ball winners we are struggling, he is a limited player, HOWEVER he never gives up and busts his guts, runs hard, just cant kick that well, ideally he should be a role player, not mr 29 touches carrying the load

I expect Newman to take over his role and Jones to be pushed back into defence. I don't mind Lloyd running off the back but yeah he shouldn't be our only avenue. McVeigh was much cleaner off the boot

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Our defence looked quite disorganised tonight and we didn't look like we were exiting with any plan. I think Rampe's absence really hurts us as so much of our rebound last year relied upon him and to a lesser extent Macca. For instance, last year Grundy would take an intercept mark and he'd have Rampe or Macca running past to receive the handball and then they'd more often than not make the right decision coming out of defence.

We should be a much better team once he returns along with Rohan, and Heeney because those guys give us some things that can't be replaced by anyone else on our list. 0-5 would look ugly but I'm still hopeful that we'll make a recovery this year get better results. If those guys return and we're still playing similarly poorly I'd be more concerned.