Sweet F.A. Suggestion Box

[Broken]

Seeing my recent attempt at hilarity, the SFA Pageant, fell flat on it's arse, maybe it's time to take a leaf out of Its Manbearpig book and get Super Cereal. So let's take a look at some minor suggestions that could improve the competition going forward.

MATCH COMMENTARY

In season 18 the simmer at the time, Logger , put out a request to for players to submit additional lines of commentary. He got a generous response with the commentary taking on a fresh look for the remainder of the season.
For example, here's some additions from the season 18 Grand Final:

1 : 12.13 {rW} - flaps and raven echo claim the mark. The umpire doesn't believe either of them.
1 : 14.16 {rBP} - Stop... tasmanlvr time. They can't touch him.
1 : 16.43 {CHF} - Shadow Man FROM THE HEAVENS. What a hanger.
1 : 16.49 {CHF} - Smartys Power might be in trouble with the tribunal after that tackle on Shadow Man. Play on is the call.
1 : 17.22 {CHF} - tugga lined up Danger in Texas and missed. Danger in Texas just laughs and takes a bounce.`
1 : 18.42 {rFP} - This could win him the car...
1 : 19.58 {lHBF} - Atrocious kick. Not even kilometre perfect.
1 : 21.15 {CHF} - Only a handful of players could have kicked that. Shadow Man isn't one of them.
1 : 22.17 {rW} - raven echo kept his eyes on the ball right up until the moment it falconed him.
1 : 22.35 {lW} - flaps gets poked and punched and possession.
and that's from the first quarter, with some other great lines in the other 3 quarters.

I think these were lost when we went to the simmer committee in Season 19, but it wouldn't be bad to see the competition collaborate once again to add some extra nuggets to the commentary.

Now, while on the subject of commentary, and the commentary elephant in the room : making the sim more gender friendly. The effort was as awkward as a 13 year old Broken at a Blue Light disco and it's fair to say it missed the target however, with a bit more care, you could have dropped the pronouns altogether to make the same point.

i.e.
1 : .24 {rW} - Cactus_ looking for a lead.
1 : .28 {C} - They involve MKMatty in the play.
1 : .3 {rW} - They get a handpass to Cactus_.
could become
: .24 {rW} - Cactus_ looking for a lead.
1 : .28 {C} - Involves MKMatty in the play.
1 : .3 {rW} - Gets a handpass to Cactus_.

1 : .4 {rHBF} - kane249 sizes the options in front of them.
to
1 : .4 {rHBF} - kane249 sizes the options ahead.

1 : 1.28 {lW} - Argas Tuft nearly got done for running too far but they remember to bounce at last.
becomes
1 : 1.28 {lW} - Argas Tuft nearly got done for running too far but remembers to bounce at last.

and so on... with the amount of people who are good at words and stuff in this competition, surely we could nail the execution of this and make it something special.


HALL OF FAME

Currently the Hall of Fame is voted on by the committee, made up of the captains of the Sweet FA. I'm not convinced that's the best way to go about it. Looking at this seasons captains list we have captains who have barely played 3 seasons yet they're expected to decide who made a big impact on the history of the game? Do they know enough about who came before them, are they likely to defer to the more tenured (or outspoken) captains and the like?
This seasons captains group they average 117 games (roughly 7 seasons) and that's generous due to the high games totals of Frankston Rover and fitzroybowiedog
There currently exists a group of players who would be in a better position to decide on who is Hall of Fame worthy. I'm speaking of the 17 currently listed players who are in the Sweet F.A. Hall of Fame. This group averages 310 games (20 seasons) and contains previous admins, captains and significant contributors to the league over the years and, I think it's fair to say, are probably in a better position to determine who is worthy.

STATE OF ORIGIN

Maybe I need the unpopular puffin meme here, but State of Origin is dead. When the league only had one season a year, and nothing else happening on the board, the SOO concept served as a fun addition to the competition - as did the long departed preseason competition.
Now the competition has quick season turnarounds with some years having two seasons, plus charity games, much more activity across the board and the Club Room. As a result the need for a little extra to build the board community has been taken over by other means which State of Origin no longer needs to fill. Let it go.

I could be off base here, but I think there's something here for Cloud_ to work with and I'll open the floor to other suggestions.

 

[grumbleguts]

MATCH COMMENTARY

1 : .3 {rW} - Gets a handpass to Cactus_.

Why would anyone handpass it to Cactus_?

 

[_Cayz_]

We clearly need more things like:

Up the elevator shaft
One hand off the deck
Right to left
Inside out bender
Turned him inside out
Sold some candy
The bermuda triangle

 

[Agent93]

We clearly need more things like:

Up the elevator shaft
One hand off the deck
Right to left
Inside out bender
Turned him inside out
Sold some candy
The bermuda triangle

CHAOS BALL

 

[_Cayz_]

CHAOS BALL

Caresses it.

 

[Agent93]

Caresses it.

Down the throat.

 

[Agent93]

There currently exists a group of players who would be in a better position to decide on who is Hall of Fame worthy. I'm speaking of the 17 currently listed players who are in the Sweet F.A. Hall of Fame. This group averages 310 games (20 seasons) and contains previous admins, captains and significant contributors to the league over the years and, I think it's fair to say, are probably in a better position to determine who is worthy.

 

[manangatang]

Caresses it.

Drown them in your honey

 

[_Cayz_]

Drown them in your honey

Down the throat.

See now this is the kind of sim I would actually read and not just flick through to find my name.

 

[TJASTA]

needs more TJASTA

 

[grumbleguts]

Get bruce mcavaney on the case.

Caresses it down someone's throat.
We all love big cox
He's got a lovely pair of legs
He's put himself in the hole and the ball came squirting out.

 

[Mobbs]

Yeah I will never admit but I do actually sometimes read media threads.

Match Commentary: Yes, yes and yes. The more comments the sim has to draw from the data files, the more vibrant the commentary can appear. We all see the repetition, and that's with quite a few friggin' comments, too. Go get those ones Broken mentioned that Logger used, run them past some folks, and expand the dataset! Open the floor to additional suggestions, too. @Cayz ... who seems to be untaggable ... *scrolls* ... oh, _Cayz_ spewed forth a few beauties just above! I don't even watch footy any more, haven't for years. I was already out of the loop when I first scribbled a few down. Yes please, do this. +1.

Gender-neutral terminology : Yes again I agree with Broken. We can re-jig the comments in many different ways, exactly as he suggested. Try a few options. The odd wandering "their" can still remain, it's the over-propagation that made it look weird.

The other two I have less to say about, but I'm all for this first couple!

Oh and can we get qooty in-play gifs back as a thingy again? They were pretty fun and maybe eventually can be automatically factored in.

 

[fumbler]

So brave

 

[Yakker]

Delicious and unprecedented have to make an appearance in the commentary

+1 with Broken 's suggestion on current HoF'ers voting on next inductees

 

[Ned_Flanders]

So brave

Essendon Football Club have a 20 year exclusive on that one, they will get Hirdy’s Lawyer to sue the SFA

 

[fumbler]

Essendon Football Club have a 20 year exclusive on that one, they will get Hirdy’s Lawyer to sue the SFA

I heard their lawyers are failures and haven’t won a case since Watson got to keep his Brownlow

 

[_Cayz_]

Yeah I will never admit but I do actually sometimes read media threads.

Match Commentary: Yes, yes and yes. The more comments the sim has to draw from the data files, the more vibrant the commentary can appear. We all see the repetition, and that's with quite a few friggin' comments, too. Go get those ones Broken mentioned that Logger used, run them past some folks, and expand the dataset! Open the floor to additional suggestions, too. @Cayz ... who seems to be untaggable ... *scrolls* ... oh, _Cayz_ spewed forth a few beauties just above! I don't even watch footy any more, haven't for years. I was already out of the loop when I first scribbled a few down. Yes please, do this. +1.

Gender-neutral terminology : Yes again I agree with Broken. We can re-jig the comments in many different ways, exactly as he suggested. Try a few options. The odd wandering "their" can still remain, it's the over-propagation that made it look weird.

The other two I have less to say about, but I'm all for this first couple!

Oh and can we get qooty in-play gifs back as a thingy again? They were pretty fun and maybe eventually can be automatically factored in.

I am happy to be the BT of the Sweet FA and spew forth ridiculous commentary .

 

[TRUMAN#1]

I am happy to be the BT of the Sweet FA and spew forth ridiculous commentary .

We need a new Rex Hunt commentator.

 

[Barrybran]

We need a new Rex Hunt commentator.

Yibbida yibbida

I could also go for bit of 'straight down the eye diddle diddle'

 

[Dav]

Broken they brought in gender neutral sim commentary already this season, and everyone got mad about it so they changed it back.

 

[Mobbs]

Broken they brought in gender neutral sim commentary already this season, and everyone got mad about it so they changed it back.

So if we can rule out reading, what are your strong points?

 

[Dav]

So if we can rule out reading, what are your strong points?

Pardon me, its just he suggested exactly what was done.

 

[FinBar19]

X gives it off to Y and asks for it back. That's one of the biggest lenders I've ever seen.

 

[Frankston Rover]

Yeah I will never admit but I do actually sometimes read media threads.

Match Commentary: Yes, yes and yes. The more comments the sim has to draw from the data files, the more vibrant the commentary can appear. We all see the repetition, and that's with quite a few friggin' comments, too. Go get those ones Broken mentioned that Logger used, run them past some folks, and expand the dataset! Open the floor to additional suggestions, too. @Cayz ... who seems to be untaggable ... *scrolls* ... oh, _Cayz_ spewed forth a few beauties just above! I don't even watch footy any more, haven't for years. I was already out of the loop when I first scribbled a few down. Yes please, do this. +1.

Gender-neutral terminology : Yes again I agree with Broken. We can re-jig the comments in many different ways, exactly as he suggested. Try a few options. The odd wandering "their" can still remain, it's the over-propagation that made it look weird.

The other two I have less to say about, but I'm all for this first couple!

Oh and can we get qooty in-play gifs back as a thingy again? They were pretty fun and maybe eventually can be automatically factored in.

In regards to commentary lines, this was one thing I think we can all add to.

These are easy to implement.

I'd like to see some specific Sweet FA references as well.

 

[Broken]

Pardon me, its just he suggested exactly what was done.

You're right. Maybe I should have acknowledged an attempt to make the commentary gender neutral had been done, acknowledged the attempt was awkward at best and then come up with a less clumsy solution.