Club Focus Sydney - Hickey, McDonald, Campbell, Gulden, Carruthers

What is Sydney's biggest priority?

  • Trading in picks

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Trading in points

    Votes: 7 70.0%
  • Trading in players

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Retaining players

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10

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Dangerousfield

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I think the Swans are an interesting and scary prospect going into the trade period.. They had a heap of cash available to spend on Daniher which they now dont need.. History says they wont sit idle and will be aggressively chasing a target and that a contract is only a minor hurdle..

It would not at all surprise me if they made a big play at Jeremy Cameron with a Buddy type of offer..
Or hoard their excess cash for next year's trade period when they will be on the way up and looking for mature top liners to supplement all the stockpiled youth.
 

Membling

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Or hoard their excess cash for next year's trade period when they will be on the way up and looking for mature top liners to supplement all the stockpiled youth.
If we did splash out for a player using the cap space that would open up, could see use going for any of the following:

Opp supporters, yes, it is pie in the sky stuff. If we had cash to burn could happen.

2021 OOC:
Cripps
Gawn
Oliver
Bontempelli

2022 OOC:
Taranto
Petracca
Nic Nat
Macrae


In saying that, have big re-signings to finish for our guys OOC in 2022.
 

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FreeAgent1

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I hope North bid on Campbell. Either Swannies supporters would be losing their minds if they had to match but i wouldnt be suprised if they passed and North fans end up melting instead 😂
If crows take anyone other than McDonald and they bid on Campbell I can see us not matching and then getting him to request a trade back in 2 years. Not ideal list management.....but it is north so who knows
 

Tedeski

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I hope North bid on Campbell. Either Swannies supporters would be losing their minds if they had to match but i wouldnt be suprised if they passed and North fans end up melting instead 😂
We would match without blinking & we will prepare for such a scenario.
Don't underestimate our recruiting staff as rules are often changed after we find a way to get who we want into our club.
 

Crow till I die

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We would match without blinking & we will prepare for such a scenario.
Don't underestimate our recruiting staff as rules are often changed after we find a way to get who we want into our club.
I wonder if beatson was directing his comments about dunmy academy bids at the crows. If the crows did bid on campbell or north for that matter it would really stuff sydney around assuming tgey still wanted to match tge bid. They are absolutely expecting in my opinion either dgb or phillips with pick 3 and then get campbell for peanuts along with gulden. To miss one of campbell or dgb/phillips would hurt and maybe it was a veiled crack by beatson
 

Peel67skin

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I wonder if beatson was directing his comments about dunmy academy bids at the crows. If the crows did bid on campbell or north for that matter it would really stuff sydney around assuming tgey still wanted to match tge bid. They are absolutely expecting in my opinion either dgb or phillips with pick 3 and then get campbell for peanuts along with gulden. To miss one of campbell or dgb/phillips would hurt and maybe it was a veiled crack by beatson
Do it , you got so many prediction wrong from 2018 to now , surely this time you are right .
 

Dangerousfield

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I wonder if beatson was directing his comments about dunmy academy bids at the crows. If the crows did bid on campbell or north for that matter it would really stuff sydney around assuming tgey still wanted to match tge bid. They are absolutely expecting in my opinion either dgb or phillips with pick 3 and then get campbell for peanuts along with gulden. To miss one of campbell or dgb/phillips would hurt and maybe it was a veiled crack by beatson
I absolutely want us to bid on JUH at pick 1, he is the best player in the draft and the VFL's NGA rort means despite being wooden spooners we can't get the best player. We owe the VFL and the Dogs nothing, in fact we owe the Dogs a clip for last years trade.

Clubs just don't put in vexatious bids on players, no club wants to sour relationships for future dealings. We have a track record of bidding in a fair manner about where the consensus has the player in the draft order. Campbell is not the number 2 player in this draft and we won't be bidding on him, we'll be taking McDonald or Thilthorpe.
 

RUNVS

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I absolutely want us to bid on JUH at pick 1, he is the best player in the draft and the VFL's NGA rort means despite being wooden spooners we can't get the best player. We owe the VFL and the Dogs nothing, in fact we owe the Dogs a clip for last years trade.

Clubs just don't put in vexatious bids on players, no club wants to sour relationships for future dealings. We have a track record of bidding in a fair manner about where the consensus has the player in the draft order. Campbell is not the number 2 player in this draft and we won't be bidding on him, we'll be taking McDonald or Thilthorpe.
 

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WeedsMullet84

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If crows take anyone other than McDonald and they bid on Campbell I can see us not matching and then getting him to request a trade back in 2 years. Not ideal list management.....but it is north so who knows
As much as some Crows fans would like this to happen (Crow till I die needs to stop embarrassing us here..) I think there is absolutely ZERO chance Crows would, or should, bid on Campbell.

We don't have a history of bidding on NGA/FS players outside of our talent order, and Campbell does fall outside of this in regards to our picks.

That being said, eDPS does have him rated pretty highly, and North may look to be strategic AND sensible here in putting a bid on Campbell at Pick 3 (after JUH bid at 1). This makes even more sense if North force Swans to match the bid at Pick 3, and then North trade their Pick 4 to Essendon for a few picks of their 1st rounders. This theoretically means that there's a better player at each of those picks if the Swans don't have an opportunity to select a player AND meet a bid down the order for Campbell.
 

Northernsoul74

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We would match without blinking & we will prepare for such a scenario.
Don't underestimate our recruiting staff as rules are often changed after we find a way to get who we want into our club.
Would you match without blinking? Wouldn’t you just pass and take player rated higher on your list?
 

Tippett2Goal

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One would think so. Unless we rate Campbell as the 3rd best player in the draft I can't see us matching.
This, maybe we do rate him that highly, but if not we don't match and take McDonald (assuming Ade take Thilthorpe).
Or we then trade down the draft order, with either Essendon, or another club with multiple first / future firsts in return for pick 3.

Personally I don't see it happening, JUH will be bid pick 1, Ade take either McDonald or Thilthorpe, NM Take Mcdonald or Holland.
 

Crow till I die

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As much as some Crows fans would like this to happen (Crow till I die needs to stop embarrassing us here..) I think there is absolutely ZERO chance Crows would, or should, bid on Campbell.

We don't have a history of bidding on NGA/FS players outside of our talent order, and Campbell does fall outside of this in regards to our picks.

That being said, eDPS does have him rated pretty highly, and North may look to be strategic AND sensible here in putting a bid on Campbell at Pick 3 (after JUH bid at 1). This makes even more sense if North force Swans to match the bid at Pick 3, and then North trade their Pick 4 to Essendon for a few picks of their 1st rounders. This theoretically means that there's a better player at each of those picks if the Swans don't have an opportunity to select a player AND meet a bid down the order for Campbell.
take a hike..how the hell is that me embarrassing anyone to suggest that a bid might come for a guy that is extremely highly rated and he IS extremely highly rated by those who watch these kids like ol Mutineer. Beatson was quite pointed in his displeasure at what he sees as dummy academy bids. If you are really a crows supporter, you will know that if the club rates a player that is academy linked, they will bid - unless there may be some sort of incentive not to
 

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take a hike..how the hell is that me embarrassing anyone to suggest that a bid might come for a guy that is extremely highly rated and he IS extremely highly rated by those who watch these kids like ol Mutineer. Beatson was quite pointed in his displeasure at what he sees as dummy academy bids. If you are really a crows supporter, you will know that if the club rates a player that is academy linked, they will bid - unless there may be some sort of incentive not to
It sorts itself out. Perhaps you are right & the Crows bid on him & we don't match. Young Campbell becomes a Crow for a few years.
Then the go home factor kicks in before he is at his prime.
Every action has a reaction, be it immediately or at a later date. If the Crows rate him as a pick 1 then I guess you take him & that would leave us in an equally good position to take the next best rated player in the draft. We could then swap next year's first rounder with Gold Coast's first rounder this year (pick 5) leaving us with 2 top 5 picks to use now & in two years take Campbell back with a far worse pick for you than the pick 1 you will use on him now.
We will match anything over our first pick 3.

Now having said all this, we don't have such bad a relationship with the interstate clubs as the bad feelings you, a Bigfooty poster, may have for us.
 

Crow till I die

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It sorts itself out. Perhaps you are right & the Crows bid on him & we don't match. Young Campbell becomes a Crow for a few years.
Then the go home factor kicks in before he is at his prime.
Every action has a reaction, be it immediately or at a later date. If the Crows rate him as a pick 1 then I guess you take him & that would leave us in an equally good position to take the next best rated player in the draft. We could then swap next year's first rounder with Gold Coast's first rounder this year (pick 5) leaving us with 2 top 5 picks to use now & in two years take Campbell back with a far worse pick for you than the pick 1 you will use on him now.
We will match anything over our first pick 3.

Now having said all this, we don't have such bad a relationship with the interstate clubs as the bad feelings you, a Bigfooty poster, may have for us.
Its got nothing to do with it..it is purely as simple as if the club rates the player they will bid. I am not saying they are bidding but something has got up Beatsons nose for him to come out and make comments like he did. Sydney would have to then work out IF a bid came in as to whether they want to match it or not..no doubt they will have their own strategy

as for taking him back in 2 years time..how often does that work out - we have been on the arse end of it
 

Tippett2Goal

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Its got nothing to do with it..it is purely as simple as if the club rates the player they will bid. I am not saying they are bidding but something has got up Beatsons nose for him to come out and make comments like he did.
You might be on the money, but you are looking at the wrong player imo.
The concern is Gulden goes much earlier than expected and leaves us with a significant deficit to what will likely be a high pack next year in the first round.
 

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Same sh*t everytime a Swans Academy pick comes thru. They get talked up and up like getting them would be an absolute gift for us.
Campbell on form in a normal season would normally be a mid-late 1st rndr and Gulden maybe 30's. Good kids to pick but we are talking a different league entirely to the top 5.
The only reason a guy like Campbell is being talked up is coz the marketplace hasnt seen much of the vics in the top 30 this year. Recruiters go off what they see.

No chance ANY club rates Campbell high enough to risk their top 5 pick to bid on him. Unlikely even a top 10 pick. All clubs will have their preferred players and by the time the draft comes along they will have their order book with all manner of options covering taken and now unavailable. Unlikely they will even concern themselves with Campbell. IFFFF they see him pick 8-10ish++ then yes, they might start to become interested. Similar to Green at GWS last yr who was rated much higher than Campbell is this yr.

If you think your club would pass over a McDonald Phillips DGB Hollands Thilthorpe type for Campbell then its best you send them some better drugs pronto.

Beatson's little wish list was more of a shot across the bow, hoping to dissuade any possible shenanigans from clubs with top 10 picks. He claims he would inform another club if he had an actual intention to bid on one of theirs. He cannot expect others to play nice and sweet simply coz he might. Doesnt mean he cant shine an early spotlight on it though which he has now done. He got the press for it he wanted.
 

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