Sydney Olympic Stadium to be demolished and rebuilt

[acm21]

Just another of those myths that's still gets around.

However, the fact is that Melbourne's actual built-up suburban area is larger, more spread out than Sydney's - https://architectureau.com/articles...rgest-and-least-densely-settled-in-the-world/

... and, if the Central Coast is correctly excluded, Melbourne has a larger contiguous population - https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/is-melbourne-already-bigger-than-sydney-20170922-gyn2k4.html

I can not speak for Melbourne and I don't try to. If you were to form a boundary of the sydney region is Penrith (the Nepean River), Campbelltown (the Hawksberry river) and just before Broken Bay ( the outlet of the Hawkesbeerry river.
But the 4 stadiums that are assumed and mentioned as part of this plan do make sense as they are very much separate regions that are in need of atleast a refurb, if not a rebuild. The Campletown stadium is in need of a refurb (with the recent installation of a permanent video screen apart of this) due to greater first grade use (due to the new Macarthur team), brookvale (if manly were to continue operating in manly) is seen as a competitive advantage because the ground is pretty much the worst you could possibly have (barley scrapping into the category of operational in many eyes) the stadium is also looking to hold more first grade games (including rugby and maybe the mariners). The Penrith stadium as well as either a potential stadium in and around the St George region (whether it be a new location or a the current kograh ground) although not a breast of the situation of both grounds (kograh seems of good quality currently) would be in line for an upgrade within the next decade or so. I hope that any potential deal would continue with the ownership by a government authority and preferably being run by them or at a good commercial rate to the nrl or the club. Anz is too large for the crowds is able to draw apart from the major events like soo and some international games (which would be in need of a good upgrade sooner rather than later)

 

[kaypee]

Just another of those myths that's still gets around.

However, the fact is that Melbourne's actual built-up suburban area is larger, more spread out than Sydney's - https://architectureau.com/articles...rgest-and-least-densely-settled-in-the-world/

... and, if the Central Coast is correctly excluded, Melbourne has a larger contiguous population - https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/is-melbourne-already-bigger-than-sydney-20170922-gyn2k4.html

we should be grateful Australian cities (mostly) resisted urban density fetishists who wanted to create crowded Coolio cities: they've been slammed by covid

 

[its been done]

Anz is too large for the crowds is able to draw apart from the major events like soo and some international games (which would be in need of a good upgrade sooner rather than later)

In 3 years time ANZ as well as Suncorp will be due for their 20 year refurbishments like the Southern Stand refurb at the MCG completed 7 years ago

 

[Johnny Bananas]

we should be grateful Australian cities (mostly) resisted urban density fetishists who wanted to create crowded Coolio cities: they've been slammed by covid

Japan, Taiwan and South Korea are doing just fine.

 

[Walshawk]

Kogarah had millions spent in the 2000s. Only gets five games not worth spending much.
Likewise Cambeltown also only three NRL games. Penrith got a new stands 2008. Manly are about to spend $15m on a reno.
Parramatta was also updated not long before it was demolished. A bit like Adelaide Oval lots of money wasted on renos.

What Sydney needs is a 30 year stadium strategy.

Sydney needs more stadiums than Melbourne because it is not a centralised or planned city. It is much harder to get across town and support for NRL sides is local - unlike Melbourne where supporters of AFL clubs are spread right across the city.

 

[acm21]

Kogarah had millions spent in the 2000s. Only gets five games not worth spending much.
Likewise Cambeltown also only three NRL games. Penrith got a new stands 2008. Manly are about to spend $15m on a reno.
Parramatta was also updated not long before it was demolished. A bit like Adelaide Oval lots of money wasted on renos.

What Sydney needs is a 30 year stadium strategy.

Sydney needs more stadiums than Melbourne because it is not a centralised or planned city. It is much harder to get across town and support for NRL sides is local - unlike Melbourne where supporters of AFL clubs are spread right across the city.

The whole idea of this strategy from the nrl is to gain greater control over the grounds, with more games played at the venues (similar to the afls strategy of 20 + years ago). This deal would be part of the brookvale refurb (and extend the refurb to pretty much a full renovation). Campletown stadium in this plan would have the majority of wests tigers games a long with the new aleague side that is to be based at the ground (even if it was to stay at the current situation the stadium will get atleast a few new stands and more games). Nobody has commented about parra stadium in this circumstance and penrith stadium would lilely be toward the end of the time frame stated. Kograh would be in line for a refurb soon going by the 20 year rule (and this would include more if not all games from cronulla). I don't think the proposal is right but more money and a focus on smaller stadiums (and the nrl deciding to actually own real estate) is a great idea.

 

[dlanod]

Campletown

Come on. Four times running is getting a bit crazy.

 

[Walshawk]

The whole idea of this strategy from the nrl is to gain greater control over the grounds, with more games played at the venues (similar to the afls strategy of 20 + years ago). This deal would be part of the brookvale refurb (and extend the refurb to pretty much a full renovation). Campletown stadium in this plan would have the majority of wests tigers games a long with the new aleague side that is to be based at the ground (even if it was to stay at the current situation the stadium will get atleast a few new stands and more games). Nobody has commented about parra stadium in this circumstance and penrith stadium would lilely be toward the end of the time frame stated. Kograh would be in line for a refurb soon going by the 20 year rule (and this would include more if not all games from cronulla). I don't think the proposal is right but more money and a focus on smaller stadiums (and the nrl deciding to actually own real estate) is a great idea.

20 year rule? Never heard of it. If you are referring to ANZ the rebuild was to make it rectangular, not because it was 20 years old.
Also, Cronulla own their stadium, why would they move to a rival’s stadium 14km from their fan base.

 

[acm21]

20 year rule? Never heard of it. If you are referring to ANZ the rebuild was to make it rectangular, not because it was 20 years old.
Also, Cronulla own their stadium, why would they move to a rival’s stadium 14km from their fan base.

In general stadiums need a refurb every 20 years or so in order to ensure the stafium is fit for the future, if you look at when work on stadiums/stands has been done it would often be around 20 years (anz was to make it rectangular on a permanent basis as well as refurbishing the stadium and a general refresh). In regard to cronulla I am not saying it would be a good idea (and this plan wasn't necessarily for a redo at kograh, just a ground in that region). And I'm sure the Wollongong based fans of St George also wouldn't be happy to loose games.

 

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[Billy ray]

Any updated photos of the site?

 

[Kwality]

Japan, Taiwan and South Korea are doing just fine.

So is Freo.