Sydney Stack Discussion

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Can't believe the carry on because Stack didn't return to training in peak match fit condition when there is still 4 months until he can play at the highest level and 2-3 months until games start again.

He showed when he arrived at the club that he can put in the hard yards to get himself in shape by time the season starts. It may well be a case that he needs the structure and routine of being at the club to train at the intensity required. So while he has come back lacking endurance he has still seemingly come back in reasonably good nick as far as skin folds are concerned.

Who cares if he is looking for something to do over New Years. Just because someone dies in the family doesn't mean his life should also stop. My father passed away on Boxing Day years ago and yet I was out hanging around with mates a week or so later.

How many people on here have had family members/close friends pass away but have still gone to the footy or a concert or a party a few weeks later? I'd suggest the majority of us have done that, yet those same people seem to be critical of Stack for continuing to live his life.

Lets cut the kid some slack instead of adding to the pile on that is happening already through his social media account. We're supporters let's actually try and support the kid rather than continually trying to tear him down

 

[Del65166]

I dont want him delisted as he is a bloody good player with a huge amount of talent , But his actions and behavior are worrying
I know all about making mistakes and trust me i have made a few and well as my kids making more than their share.

But CCJ & Stacks mistakes were pretty big up there that cost the club alot of money and reputation. No issue with him going home or even to a party
By biggest gripe is after 3 months away from the team and having to make up he comes back in such bad shape to not even be able to run out and stops then jogs !! Please

If good and bad come out of a situation: Stack always seems the on bad side; COVID ~ he comes back and plays BAD footy. hasn't dealt with the iso well. OK so he's not a self motivated trainer/athlete. Behaves BADly gets a 10 week suspension & costs the club a staff member wages; returns & does a BAD training session, and doesn't train the house down indeed the opposite; (despite having a P/trainer) doesn't stay in Melb & work with teammates but BAD goes back to Perth, looking to party NYE. Now COVID restrictions are a thing and mean he has to do Melb to Perth trip early. There's a lot for his natural talent to overcome, and Stack will mature. 2021 finals are 9 months away. I'm hoping that he gets his act together before that. I'm hoping 2021 is more settled for Stacky & we see his prodigious talent on the field.

 

[Grrr]

Unless he has depression whats the point of bringing it up ? I never said i understand depression like maybe others who have experienced it but believe myself to be understanding enough when people who do have it to stay off that topic.

really dont understand your stance in this bringing things like depression etc into it unless you know something we dont then this thread should be closed but as far as we can see as supporters and members we have a player that has brought our club penalties and has been suspended , Gone away for 3 months and come back in sh!t condition whilst getting paid bloody good money.

Has been sent home and now looking for party tickets on instagram, Not sure if you know much about his training 'that day' at the club but apparently was shocking (from a good training watcher of many years)

So you are saying he has been sent home and not back for a funeral. Where did you get this from?

 

[Grrr]

Stack is not your usual AFL recruit. He has been back in WA where his life was difficult before Richmond gave him a lifeline, hence not being picked up. Doubt there's the structures there that he has in Melb. I'm sure there are the distractions, the mates, the lifestyle, especially with a bit of cash in the pocket.

Most young players are in their home states, living at home or interstaters/county kids with host families in their early days. Meals cooked, washing done etc. Around 70% of draftee's come out of private schools these days, boarding or whatever. Stack has none of this. I speak from experience with my son leaving and living out of home at 17 while doing VCE, off interstate at 18, independent 500km away at 19, all in pursuit of football/growing up. It has been tough but good life experience, and he has come from a very stable environment.

You can't peg everyone the same way. Stack was disappointing last season as he obviously didn't cope with Iso very well as he was unfit. Gregarious kid with a stack of talent but needs the structures of the footy club to get the best out of himself. He has 4 months for that to happen hopefully.

 

[fargothegreat]

Why were Biggy and Miller in the 'unfit' group? Because Miller and Biggy were in full training a few months ago so unless they had leg operations they were not going to be unfit. Biggy had a shoulder injury months and months ago. So I'm not sure that it is a 'fact' at all. He may have come last, but do we know anything about him running in the 'unfit' group other than conjecture. But we know he wasn't as fit as he should be, but he has 4-5 months to catch up (given he can't play until April).

Not sure on Biggy and Miller. They may have had ops/injuries. But Stack didn't. He just didn't put the work in.

This has been reported in the news now, but it's honestly up to you if you want to believe me or not.

 

[Grrr]

Not sure on Biggy and Miller. They may have had ops/injuries. But Stack didn't. He just didn't put the work in.

This has been reported in the news now, but it's honestly up to you if you want to believe me or not.

Read the Richmond injury list about Biggy, in good nick. The news gets things right occasionally.
It is obvious that he didn't come back in as good a shape as he could have, for that it has a pretty extensive debate for and against. But none of know much at all really, other than what has been already said, back of the pack. Time will tell.

 

[Sir_Loin]

if he wants to play he’ll be right. We have good support, leadership and standards. He’ll come back in the new year and he’ll have to prove himself.

If he doesn’t want to that’s fine too, AFL isn’t for everyone. Been plenty of couldabeens.

 

[Toadvine]

So according to Burges, Biggie's "conditioning is outstanding" and track watchers saw stack run 30secs behind him the other day with 4 months until the season starts. Shock horror. Let's all pile on and scrutinise every aspect of his life including how he grieves a family member and what he wants to do on New year's eve. Completely normal fandom behavior right here.

 

[Grrr]

So according to Burges, Biggie's "conditioning is outstanding" and track watches saw stack run 30secs behind him the other day with 4 months until the season starts. Shock horror. Let's all pile on and scrutinise every aspect of his life including how he grieves a family member and what he wants to do on New year's eve. Completely normal fandom behavior right here.

Get the truck of manure out, I'll drive.

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

death of close family member.

Sister saying that no one has died.... go figure

 

[Barnzy]

Sister saying that no one has died.... go figure

There is a conspiracy afoot.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

So according to Burges, Biggie's "conditioning is outstanding" and track watchers saw stack run 30secs behind him the other day with 4 months until the season starts. Shock horror. Let's all pile on and scrutinise every aspect of his life including how he grieves a family member and what he wants to do on New year's eve. Completely normal fandom behavior right here.

while biggie is fast he is not an endurance athlete and burge is basing that on where he is coming from with his injury. but im sure we can make excuse for sidney for another year or 2 until he gets his act together. dancing is also very tiring and should get him fitter and will be fine jan 2

 

[CaptchaProofBot]

Sister saying that no one has died.... go figure

(sauce? besides the sister that is)
this actually makes sense coz the club has not said Stack is on compassionate/bereavement leave.

 

[Toadvine]

while biggie is fast he is not an endurance athlete and burge is basing that on where he is coming from with his injury. but im sure we can make excuse for sidney for another year or 2 until he gets his act together. dancing is also very tiring and should get him fitter and will be fine jan 2

 

[Grrr]

while biggie is fast he is not an endurance athlete and burge is basing that on where he is coming from with his injury. but im sure we can make excuse for sidney for another year or 2 until he gets his act together. dancing is also very tiring and should get him fitter and will be fine jan 2

And the kid is a jet, so not sure why anyone would want or encourage him to be anywhere but back at Richmond. Bend over backwards to assist or whatever. Hard core would never have gotten Martin, Pickett, Stack in the first place.

 

[juss]

So according to Burges, Biggie's "conditioning is outstanding" and track watchers saw stack run 30secs behind him the other day with 4 months until the season starts. Shock horror. Let's all pile on and scrutinise every aspect of his life including how he grieves a family member and what he wants to do on New year's eve. Completely normal fandom behavior right here.

Genuinely seems like some are sinking the boot in on the back of an Instagram pic, 30 seconds of training footage, and the fact they don't think Stack's entitled to social media hobbies or a life.

Sure, he's probably got some work still to do, but give the kid a break. He's got the whole preseason with the group and 2021 season to prove himself. He's a footballer, he's a kid, he's not a prisoner. He deserves some leeway to be a kid.

 

[THE_GUN]

Genuinely seems like some are sinking the boot in on the back of an Instagram pic, 30 seconds of training footage, and the fact they don't think Stack's entitled to social media hobbies or a life.

Sure, he's probably got some work still to do, but give the kid a break. He's got the whole preseason with the group and 2021 season to prove himself. He's a footballer, he's a kid, he's not a prisoner. He deserves some leeway to be a kid.

Just had 3 months off didnt he

 

[Charlie Pannam]

This has to be the most boring thread ever.

 

[THE_GUN]

This has to be the most boring thread ever.

Probably best to close it until mid jan

 

[Heisenberg_]

Some serious old man yells at a cloud vibes in this thread.
Nothing wrong with him wanting to go out on NYE when he’s on leave as he’s entitled to do.
It’s not heathy to lock yourself inside for weeks on end when somebody close to you has passed away, he’s a football player- not a robot.

 

[theyellowsash]

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[Calcium Man]

Some serious old man yells at a cloud vibes in this thread.
Nothing wrong with him wanting to go out on NYE when he’s on leave as he’s entitled to do.
It’s not heathy to lock yourself inside for weeks on end when somebody close to you has passed away, he’s a football player- not a robot.

Definitely shouldn’t lock himself inside on NYE, he should be running up sand dunes, like I did in my day on NYE.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Stack has a fairly fragile background. He knows it, the club knows it. The club has tried to put good people etc around him. Kebab gate was stupid garbage. I reckon they were unlucky, every cub probably had guys doing the same thing, but didn't have a drub attack them. SO he was sent home and came back under-prepared. That's poor, both from him and the club. I assume the club was watching his work whilst away. The current thing sounds fairly innocent.

But saying all that he seems to be sliding into fail territory. One great year up front and he maybe learnt the wrong lessons - hard work leads to success. I hope he gets his head straight. I reckon he's one of those guys that will wake up to himself sooner or later. I grew up with a few that did nothing except drink and take stuff until they his 25-28, then suddenly changed and did study etc. It's just when the realisation that this is as good as it gets, unless you put the effort in. Hope we see him do his thing in 2021. But I wouldn't e shocked if he fell by the way side. Hope not though.

 

[sregit]

Can't believe the carry on because Stack didn't return to training in peak match fit condition when there is still 4 months until he can play at the highest level and 2-3 months until games start again.

He showed when he arrived at the club that he can put in the hard yards to get himself in shape by time the season starts. It may well be a case that he needs the structure and routine of being at the club to train at the intensity required. So while he has come back lacking endurance he has still seemingly come back in reasonably good nick as far as skin folds are concerned.

Who cares if he is looking for something to do over New Years. Just because someone dies in the family doesn't mean his life should also stop. My father passed away on Boxing Day years ago and yet I was out hanging around with mates a week or so later.

How many people on here have had family members/close friends pass away but have still gone to the footy or a concert or a party a few weeks later? I'd suggest the majority of us have done that, yet those same people seem to be critical of Stack for continuing to live his life.

Lets cut the kid some slack instead of adding to the pile on that is happening already through his social media account. We're supporters let's actually try and support the kid rather than continually trying to tear him down

Round 1 is when he needs to be ready. Playing reserves until the suspension is over, hopefully playing good reserves footy and knocking on the door of senior selection.
I am Not interested in all the bullshit, questioning mental health etc and his antics. If he's not ready to go round 1 then the club will need to make a detailed assessment of where he's at and appropriately keep or move him on.

I trust the club to make the right call. I personally hate what a shit attitude he portrays but I am not privy to the facts so I shall let the club deal appropriately with the situation.

 

[CaptchaProofBot]

hopefully this is my last 2 cents in this thread.

ppl have different views, argue away, fair enough but I think the twisting of words have gone too far. I don't have every single quotes but here's a coupla clear ones:

when someone says I don't want to see him in an unfit state...don't twist it to why are ppl expecting him to be in peak match fitness....No, no one is expecting him to break world records (see, another illustration of twisting words)...just don't be in such bad shape. Sure, someone has to run last but you can run last and still be in reasonable shape.

when I say tone things down don't twist it to lock down or in prison. Tone things down could simply be (in someone else's words) stay out of the limelight/socials a bit. Tone things down could be having a few quiet drinks with close friends/family, like a wake...(assuming info of funeral is accurate at this stage), tone things down does not mean lock yourself away and cry to death.

There's nothing wrong with questioning this and that but I don't like the personal attacks, just as I didn't like the hate for Higgo.

We're all for individuality, RFC encourages it but you cannot abuse that privilege, you don't believe me ?...guess what happens when you try to 'express' your individuality at a stripclub under 'hub conditions'...you get thrown out and banished, fact. (our own Brendon Gale explicitly expressed his anger about it)

So please argue your points on actual quotes and don't twist other ppl's words too much.