Sydney Stack Discussion

[Jkdyer]

So boring. No footy on tv. No footy talk on radio. Ive watched the grandfinals 35 times this yr. Just a shit day. And geez what a block buster game we have tonight. Not.

 

[Goshaa]

Theyll be filthy on him

No doubt

 

[Bojangles17]

If Stack/CCJ have issues over reimbursing the fine, they will feel entitled to throw the players and club under the bus for no risk to them. That would make their values not aligned with the club and high risk not to mention untenable as a relationship going concern.

I struggle to fathom why the players would feel entitled not to reimburse the club representing all the stakeholders behind it including members and fans

I don’t think they’ll pay , the only grounds would be if RFC sacked them and issued civil proceedings , which I highly doubt would happen

 

[Goshaa]

I think you're using the word troll rather liberally.

Surely we can disagree on some issues in some other place, and yet still discuss other issues with some cordial friendliness.

Nah. roacheee is spot on. You look pathetic coming here with your tail between your legs. Good to see you’ve been humbled though.

 

[FreeTK]

Nah. roacheee is spot on. You look pathetic coming here with your tail between your legs. Good to see you’ve been humbled though.

It is called being able to compartmentalise and keep things separate.

I'm posting here because I happen to really like Sydney and his story.

We can fight about lots of other stuff in other threads on the MB.

But while I'm here I'll just keep my posts to the Sydney Stack situation.

 

[db26]

I'm posting here because I happen to really like Sydney and his story.

We can fight about lots of other stuff in other threads on the MB.

It is possible to compartmentalise and keep things separate.

But while I'm here I'll just keep my posts to the Sydney Stack situation.

To be fair he hasn't come on our board trolling been respectful and added to the discussion.

 

[DeLaCon]

The statements by the two boys are outstanding. They deserve our support and our faith. They are young boys trying to make their way in AFL footy. They dont deserve the shameful attacks theyve endured the last 24 hours.

 

[VB_longneck]

So boring. No footy on tv. No footy talk on radio. Ive watched the grandfinals 35 times this yr. Just a sh*t day. And geez what a block buster game we have tonight. Not.

watch the 2017 prelim

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Nah. roacheee is spot on. You look pathetic coming here with your tail between your legs. Good to see you’ve been humbled though.

Dude, give it a rest, he isn’t trolling.

If someones trolling, just report them but his posting has been fine.

 

[fargothegreat]

I think both of these boys (CJ especially given the trade rumours) owe it to the club to stick with us on minimum wage next year.

Heads down. Big preseasons. Earn back your stripes.

 

[KiwiTiger]

Reckon the amount of Richmond players that get around that post will be telling. So far zero.

There’s other ways to demonstrate empathy, support and contrition than instagram posts. Let’s just wait and see what the playing group does.

Haere Ra

 

[Tiges1229]

watch the 2017 prelim

lambert just kicked the first Best

 

[Goshaa]

Dude, give it a rest, he isn’t trolling.

If someones trolling, just report them but his posting has been fine.

I have reported him previously and nothing was done about it. Maybe if you did your job properly you wouldn’t have to tell your own supporters to give it a rest.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

I have reported him previously and nothing was done about it. Maybe if you did your job properly you wouldn’t have to tell your own supporters to give it a rest.

Theres been three oppo trolls here, all three were carded and threadbanned.

Not every oppo poster is a troll

 

[Lacustrus]

It is called being able to compartmentalise and keep things separate.

I'm posting here because I happen to really like Sydney and his story.

We can fight about lots of other stuff in other threads on the MB.

But while I'm here I'll just keep my posts to the Sydney Stack situation.

Sadly, I don't think WA is the answer for Sydney.
The negative influences would intensify, and it would be irresponsible for his Manager to push this direction.
I hoping for redemption, that he stays and becomes a senior regular

For CCJ, he was touted as a future captain, and he was SA U18 captain when drafted. He will have further chances wherever he goes.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Surely if the VFL team is in trouble then the AFLW is too.

You would think but I'm pretty sure the AFL has guaranteed the aflw will continue which in these times it's hard to justify.

 

[Hamsatma]

lambert just kicked the first Best View attachment 953870

Highlight of the quarter, closely followed by Patton playing on on the siren so he missed an easy shot at goal

 

[tigs2010]

Can’t even see an oppo poster in the thread. What the ****?

 

[FreeTK]

Sadly, I don't think WA is the answer for Sydney.
The negative influences would intensify, and it would be irresponsible for his Manager to push this direction.
I hoping for redemption, that he stays and becomes a senior regular

For CCJ, he was touted as a future captain, and he was SA U18 captain when drafted. He will have further chances wherever he goes.

Agree about the different situations the two find themselves in.

For what it's worth his manager was on radio earlier. Sydney has flown back to Melbourne, but the manager is worried about the lack of support for him there, given restrictions and majority of the club up in QLD right now.

Manager's plans are to get him back to WA.

Like you, I have concerns about him being back in WA with his old crew and having nothing to do until November when pre-season starts (if it does start then).

Article on the interview below. I said in my earlier posts that the COVID break is something that he struggled with and the manager says something along the same lines.

From memory, at the beginning of the lockdown, one of the assistant Coaches at Richmond was asked "what player do you worry about most" and his reply was Stack.

It will be interesting to see how things play out for Sydney over the next few months.

Suspended Tigers players apologise for AFL COVID-19 protocol breach

Sydney Stack and Callum Coleman-Jones say they're sorry after they were banned for 10 AFL matches, while the manager of one of the players says his client should not be responsible for paying Richmond's fine.

www.abc.net.au

 

[DeLaCon]

Sadly, I don't think WA is the answer for Sydney.
The negative influences would intensify, and it would be irresponsible for his Manager to push this direction.
I hoping for redemption, that he stays and becomes a senior regular

For CCJ, he was touted as a future captain, and he was SA U18 captain when drafted. He will have further chances wherever he goes.

Should stay with us. Going to be an excellent player.

 

[Goshaa]

Theres been three oppo trolls here, all three were carded and threadbanned.

Not every oppo poster is a troll

Except he is a troll. You just haven’t quite caught on yet.

 

[Joey longshadow]

The thought has crossed my mind, but I am not so sure.

On one hand, he is from WA. His manager is an inaugural Eagle who also manages Jake Waterman on our list. Waterman is out of contract this year, so you know he and the club are in conversations about Waterman's contract. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a conversation about Stack while those contract conversations are happening. I also think we would probably think "well Liam Ryan was in a similar positions to Sydney when they were the same age and he has come on in leaps and bounds in the last 12 months after a rocky first 12 months.

On the other hand, we already have 1 extremely talented player on our list who is currently suspended. With list size cuts we can't have 2. Also, West Coast can be risk averse these days. A lot of that is due to the issues the club had in the mid 00's.

It is also not a given he would want to come back to WA.

Can't see it happening to be honest.

Yeah well argued... Fair enough.. Don't know if this has been put up or is even legit.. But it seems to be

 

[Mr Magic]

I don’t think they’ll pay , the only grounds would be if RFC sacked them and issued civil proceedings , which I highly doubt would happen

I think they should pay and let them drive them.

Put it as a marker because if they apply themselves the rewards will prove 37500 was nothing.

There is another problem.

If they do not pay the players(all players of every club including future players) will get devalued by the clubs because although contribute to raising revenue they can also contribute to severe costs.

That means anyone wayward will be ignored because the downside will be too high. Also means more control because random activity becomes to risky. Some club like RFC might not take a chance on someone like Stack going forward if Stack and CCJ do not absorb their share of the responsibility

If the players pay the risk is mitigated giving more breathing space for all players and other suppliers of the product enhancing their value and future earnings.

For example, a player could get disgruntled and sabotage the culture and presentation and campaigns of the club through this type of behaviour with no recourse for club stakeholders and the game stakeholders. It means sponsors will reduce their sponsorship because the value they place on the relationship will fall as the commercial risk increases from unchecked recklessness to loss.

Here is an example, just say Stack and CCJ was a leadership group which manipulated 15 of these players to do what they did. That would mean RFC would face a 750K fine hitting the soft cap which would cripple the club largely driven by the foolishness and disregard of a group of players causing the stakeholders and fans and members to suffer despite warnings and governance provided to the players theoretically which would mean the club would effectively be a slave to the players as would related parties such as sponsors and anyone who had an interest in its sustainability and progression including the league and other beneficiaries including players of other clubs. So if the AFLPA jumps up and down at the fines they are effectively shooting themselves in the foot!!

 

[Grrr]

AFLPA has come out and said, no way, it's not happening, they aren't paying.

If they don't pay, Richmond, the players, and footy dept staff would rightfully be quite resentful.

You're right, I am playing out a particular scenario, but it is not out of the question. My primary point was the disagreement over the fine has the potential to be a bigger issue than the suspension itself.

Something that can be worked out behind closed doors then. The club should just shut down all the gossip and deal with it without all the journo's advice. Imagine the outcry if we went to ground, like we should.

 

[Sterge]

Except he is a troll. You just haven’t quite caught on yet.

Considering that a. we do card people when they are trolling this guy is 1 card off a perma ban and b. You are ban on sight on almost every other board on the site but we keep it quiet because you don't cause us issues i would think you would be a bit more contrite.