Sydney Stack Discussion

[VB_longneck]

Anyone who has spent christmas alone knows that it is very depressing.
I don't really care about the football aspect at this stage, I just hope Stack gets through this without any emotional trauma.
Considering that other people have broke quaranteen and spread the virus with no penalty make this even more ridiculous.
Reflects badly on WA.
Paul Peos is incompetent, Richmond need to fly someone over there or get an ex-tiger in WA on the case.

get Ralphy Carr

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Anyone who has spent christmas alone knows that it is very depressing.
I don't really care about the football aspect at this stage, I just hope Stack gets through this without any emotional trauma.
Considering that other people have broke quaranteen and spread the virus with no penalty make this even more ridiculous.
Reflects badly on WA.
Paul Peos is incompetent, Richmond need to fly someone over there or get an ex-tiger in WA on the case.

He will be alright. He is a tough kid. It might drive him mad but shouldn’t kill him. This is unlikely to be one of life’s great injustices. He couldn’t or wouldn’t follow the rules so ultimately enforcement is the right thing.

Besides, I have spent many a Christmas alone. Cooked a nice dinner, read a book, bought myself socks and jocks, sung “Little Dummer Boy,” played a free round of golf at a course of my choice, watched Christmas movies….sometimes a little time spent reflecting without distraction can be good, in the end it matters not what other people are doing at such times.

 

[Bazzar]

I feel sorry for all the innocent Australians who didn't break any rules (esp vic & nsw) who are now forced to spend Xmas either isolated or separated from family because of selfish people like Stack breaking the rules.

I've never agreed with harsh lockdowns or masks, but always obayed the rules.

He only has himself to blame and its worse given its his "third" chance.

 

[Grrr]

Hes got more than 2 hours a day to get fit theres plenty of exercises he can do in his cell as well so really there is no excuses for not getting fitter imo

He's got to fit in his reading, I hear he is starting War And Peace today.

 

[VB_longneck]

surely they will let him out before xmas

they are acting as if he killed someone

what a backward state

 

[CaptchaProofBot]

He will be alright. He is a tough kid. It might drive him mad but shouldn’t kill him. This is unlikely to be one of life’s great injustices. He couldn’t or wouldn’t follow the rules so ultimately enforcement is the right thing.

Besides, I have spent many a Christmas alone. Cooked a nice dinner, read a book, bought myself socks and jocks, sung “Little Dummer Boy,” played a free round of golf at a course of my choice, watched Christmas movies….sometimes a little time spent reflecting without distraction can be good, in the end it matters not what other people are doing at such times.

loner myself and it's completely fine, bliss actually.

but I would bloody stop at watched Christmas movies !!! Yikes !!! That's torture !!!

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I feel sorry for all the innocent Australians who didn't break any rules (esp vic & nsw) who are now forced to spend Xmas either isolated or separated from family because of selfish people like Stack breaking the rules.

I've never agreed with harsh lockdowns or masks, but always obayed the rules.

He only has himself to blame and its worse given its his "second" chance.

I am not sure your logic is sound there Bazzar.

What you seem to be saying is:

There are rules purporting to protect the community.

Stack breaks the rules.

Therefore, Stack is selfish.


Whilst the situation doesn’t exclude the possibility he is being guided principally by selfish thoughts, it is not necessarily the case. He could for instance have just made a series of decisions that in isolation seemed harmless and sensible to him at the time, inadvertently overlooking the need to follow Covid rules.

I know someone very well who would do something just like that, never meaning to. At the end of it you ask what were you thinking, how did you end up in that situation, didn’t I tell you never to do X….he says I know, just one thing led to another and didn’t think of what you had told me at the time. Nevertheless, gentle guidance over time has seemed beneficial to him and he has learned to control himself better in certain situations.

Some people’s brains just don’t function in a way that allows them to act properly in all situations no matter how much they might wish it was otherwise. We shouldn’t automatically attribute them with unsavoury motives.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

I feel sorry for all the innocent Australians who didn't break any rules (esp vic & nsw) who are now forced to spend Xmas either isolated or separated from family because of selfish people like Stack breaking the rules.

I've never agreed with harsh lockdowns or masks, but always obayed the rules.

He only has himself to blame and its worse given its his "second" chance.

I’m leaning your way but sh!tty way to spend your Christmas. Can’t help but feel for him despite the fact he has bought this on himself.

 

[Bazzar]

I am not sure your logic is sound there Bazzar.

What you seem to be saying is:

There are rules purporting to protect the community.

Stack breaks the rules.

Therefore, Stack is selfish.


Whilst the situation doesn’t exclude the possibility he is being guided principally by selfish thoughts, it is not necessarily the case. He could for instance have just made a series of decisions that in isolation seemed harmless and sensible to him at the time, inadvertently overlooking the need to follow Covid rules.

I know someone very well who would do something just like that, never meaning to. At the end of it you ask what were you thinking, how did you end up in that situation, didn’t I tell you never to do X….he says I know, just one thing led to another and didn’t think of what you had told me at the time. Nevertheless, gentle guidance over time has seemed beneficial to him and he has learned to control himself better in certain situations.

Some people’s brains just don’t function in a way that allows them to act properly in all situations no matter how much they might wish it was otherwise. We shouldn’t automatically attribute them with unsavoury motives.

Twice he's broken quarantine rules. It only takes one person like in NSW now to have a devistating flow on effect.

Stack stopped over in SA, was granted permission on compassionate grounds to enter WA and then broke the rules. Only has himself to blame

 

[Bazzar]

I’m leaning your way but sh!tty way to spend your Christmas. Can’t help but feel for him despite the fact he has bought this on himself.

All because of one person.


Christmas border closures the 'rotten cherry' on a grim year
Thousands of Melburnians' festive plans have been shattered by Premier Daniel Andrews slamming the door shut on anyone trying to enter Victoria from NSW's "red zones" and hotspots.

Among those caught up in the decision to close the border to anyone from Greater Sydney and the Central Coast are families planning to travel from or to Melbourne and police who are having to enforce Victoria's lockout.

And fears the virus will spread south are playing havoc with the already delicate mental state of some in Melbourne after the city endured months of lockdown during its second wave.

Christmas border closures the 'rotten cherry' on a grim year

Thousands of Victorians' festive plans have been shattered by the decision to close the border to anyone from Greater Sydney and the NSW Central Coast.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Twice he's broken quarantine rules. It only takes one person like in NSW now to have a devistating flow on effect.

Stack stopped over in SA, was granted permission on compassionate grounds to enter WA and then broke the rules. Only has himself to blame

Not saying it is anyone else’s fault, just that we shouldn’t automatically attribute him with selfish thoughts and motives.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

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doco he talks about the role that prison had in his change of attitude. He said that without prison he would not have been able to change. I hope the same is true for Sydney.

 

[Grrr]

Not saying it is anyone else’s fault, just that we shouldn’t automatically attribute him with selfish thoughts and motives.

Young people up her in Mildura have been flaunting the rules for months. 5 cases total, no community transmission. Even the cops have just been warning partying kids and giving them an hour to finish and move along. Common sense policing. Way different in Melbourne where the majority did the right thing because they had to. Kids just can't see it. It would be similarly hard to follow the rules in WA, life is going on pretty much as normal. Stack was putting nobody in danger, just wasn't following the rules.

 

[Bazzar]

Young people up her in Mildura have been flaunting the rules for months. 5 cases total, no community transmission. Even the cops have just been warning partying kids and giving them an hour to finish and move along. Common sense policing. Way different in Melbourne where the majority did the right thing because they had to. Kids just can't see it. It would be similarly hard to follow the rules in WA, life is going on pretty much as normal. Stack was putting nobody in danger, just wasn't following the rules.

Stack stopped over in a hot spot. Quarantine rules are in place for a reason. He broke them.

Just recently a WA magistrate gave a FIFO worker who cracked it over madnantory quarantine the option of 14 days in a hotel at his expense or 14 days at Hakea, naturally he chose the first after reflection.

Maybe Stack would have been given the same option if he appeared before the magistrate yesterday.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Reckon a bloke like Liam Jurrah

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could give Stack a clear perspective of what life could be like without AFL and what thats like to live with.
Jurrah played nine more games than where stack is at now, he came through the same draft as Rockliff who only just retired and got 204 games in a 9 year career.

One things clear, the way Stack is approaching his opportunity isnt working

And how did Melbourne go when they got rid of him?

Similar to Carlton getting rid of Fev.

Offloading highly talented players is dangerous.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Stack stopped over in a hot spot. Quarantine rules are in place for a reason. He broke them.

Just recently a WA magistrate gave a FIFO worker who cracked it over madnantory quarantine the option of 14 days in a hotel at his expense or 14 days at Hakea, naturally he chose the first after reflection.

Maybe Stack would have been given the same option if he appeared before the magistrate yesterday.

One rule for the billionaire class like Forrest and another law for poor people and indigenous.

How good is democracy going?

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I feel sorry for all the innocent Australians who didn't break any rules (esp vic & nsw) who are now forced to spend Xmas either isolated or separated from family because of selfish people like Stack breaking the rules.

I've never agreed with harsh lockdowns or masks, but always obayed the rules.

He only has himself to blame and its worse given its his "second" chance.

Some people operate on a different wave length to you or i...take a walk in Stacky's shoes for a while before you slag him off...

 

[Bazzar]

One rule for the billionaire class like Forrest and another law for poor people and indigenous.

How good is democracy going?

What has Forrest got to do with anything?

 

[Bazzar]

Some people operate on a different wave length to you or i...take a walk in Stacky's shoes for a while before you slag him off...

You've walked in his shoes?

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

You've walked in his shoes?

And I'm not pretending to know all about Stacky's situation...

 

[Bazzar]

And I'm not pretending to know all about Stacky's situation...

Nether am I. What I do know is he broke quarantine rules three times. The first cost the club 75 thousand dollars. The second time was dumb and he was let off, third time is inexcusable.

 

[Grrr]

Stack stopped over in a hot spot. Quarantine rules are in place for a reason. He broke them.

Just recently a WA magistrate gave a FIFO worker who cracked it over madnantory quarantine the option of 14 days in a hotel at his expense or 14 days at Hakea, naturally he chose the first after reflection.

Maybe Stack would have been given the same option if he appeared before the magistrate yesterday.

How hot in SA? No Covid for about a month, their hot spot had 33 cases in total. They locked down for 3 days. Stack didn't get out of the airport.

No idea why Stack didn't appear in court, more bad advise I'd say. The first being told to fly via Adelaide Airport.

I know the rules are the rules are the rules.

 

[Bazzar]

How hot in SA? No Covid for about a month, their hot spot had 33 cases in total. They locked down for 3 days. Stack didn't get out of the airport.

No idea why Stack didn't appear in court, more bad advise I'd say. The first being told to fly via Adelaide Airport.

I know the rules are the rules are the rules.

Doesn't matter how hot. The WA government has declared it a hot spot and mandatory quarantine must take place. That's the "rules" Stack agreed to those rules when he was granted entry on compassionate grounds. He broke them.... end of story.

The current NSW cluster is suspected of coming from an airport.

 

[Marcel Proust]

What has Forrest got to do with anything?

Kerry Stokes *

 

[SplintWhisky]

Have a frank and honest discussion with him and let him know that they will cut him straight away if he diverts from getting his life in order. I think the biggest threat would be that he would be cut mid year and not allowed back at the club again. He has a huge ego and he needs to be told that if he keeps going the way he is going then he will be forgotten to history. Instead of being remembered as that great player, he would be remembered as some guy that had a good year then did nothing more.