Sydney Stack Discussion

[SunshineBoy]

Insta story posts only last for 24 hours so unless you are monitoring a specific instagram account other insta stories would be easily missed like the post Sydney made with himself wearing a t-shirt with the image of a family member and a caption that I don't recall. As I can't recall the caption I prefer not to comment on what it was let alone what it may mean.

I fully disclose my background is not indigenous and I therefore can only offer an opinion rather than any factual information, however, after reading the Marlion Pickett book Belief, it would appear there can be some time between the actual passing of a person and when the memorial service was held. I am also unware if there are any different cultural traditions that may need to be addressed during the mourning period.

It is also my opinion that perhaps you are grossly underestimating the ability of the RFC to know, understand, and support their player. Physical fitness is not the only fitness criteria our players need to address.

His insta post was in this thread

 

[amc11]

His insta post was in this thread

Perhaps you misunderstood my post - I was referring to the instastory post I mentioned I had seen, which had Sydney wearing a T-Shirt with the image of a person.

Your reference to the instastory post made by Sydney asking about tickets to a NYE concert is not the issue for me that it appears to be for others because in my opinion it has no relevance to the grief a person can feel when they lose a loved one. Regardless of the timeframe, grief does not follow a linear timeline and the emotional toll can weigh heavy at any time, however, that does not mean life has to stop for those still on the planet. Plus no RFC player is expected to be at the club training on new years eve or new years day so why would it matter if a player was wanting to purchase concert tickets?

 

[Toadvine]

Fake news Baz it’s all a beat up , the delayed funeral was an excuse for syd to get back for the NYE bash

Stack never said he was going back for a funeral. It was for "cultural healing" for all you know it may have been a camping trip a planned family reunion or whatever.

Nothing wrong with a kid wanting to celebrate NYE weeks later.

Seriously, I am going to start that pearl clutcher's thread...

 

[box070]

Stack never said he was going back for a funeral. It was for "cultural healing" for all you know it may have been a camping trip a planned family reunion or whatever.

Nothing wrong with a kid wanting to celebrate NYE weeks later.

Seriously, I am going to start that pearl clutcher's thread...

He puts some posts on Insta with he and his family members I guess they were in the bush. I think this may be what you mean

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

October not September as I thought I remembered.

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And remember with the "the over sensationalised media" they still report to this day stack was in WA in December for his grandfathers funeral which is false and misleading. He wasn't.

Why don't you lay off him.
He's got mental health issues.
His lawyer wants a mental health assessment.
No one gives a rat's tossbag about his quaranteen breach now, it's all over.

 

[Toadvine]

Why ? The first thing that Sydney did before his latest breach was ask for tickets to the NYE bash on his insta, nothing about mourning his late grandfather , so get of your sanctimonious high horse, the trip to pert a couple of days after pre season training was a lie to the club abot a funeral that happened two months prior. All he wanted to do was get back for the party

What did you expect to put on his insta?

An 8min video of him sobbing with his family? Get a ****ing grip. NYE was almost two weeks after he got arrested. You're acting as if it was the night after he landed in WA.

So if you have a family member who dies your not having a beer or going out and having fun for the next month? Get over yourself.

 

[Bazzar]

For those still confused about the funeral

(October... same time as his "minor" breach mentioned in his court hearing)

 

[CaptchaProofBot]

maybe 200 pages is a nice end point ? even temporarily until Stack does something....or RFC does something ?

 

[box070]

Why don't you lay off him.
He's got mental health issues.
His lawyer wants a mental health assessment.
No one gives a rat's tossbag about his quaranteen breach now, it's all over.

At the end of the day what done is done and the only opinion that matters is the clubs. Be upset the $1 out of your membership is paying the fine that the club captain’s wife also contributed too, that’s fine and anyone’s prerogative .
If the clubs decision is to back and support him then I’m on board. If it is to cut him loose, well there is no skin off my nose as players come and go. The one thing that remains is the club that’s where my loyalty lies.

 

[Del65166]

Why ? The first thing that Sydney did before his latest breach was ask for tickets to the NYE bash on his insta, nothing about mourning his late grandfather , so get of your sanctimonious high horse, the trip to pert a couple of days after pre season training was a lie to the club abot a funeral that happened two months prior. All he wanted to do was get back for the party

Non Christian mourning can have demands on mourners at set stages afterward. Buddhism at 21,49 & 100 days family are expected to participate in ceremonies. I know a Japanese person in Melb had to go back to Japan at these times during mourning.

 

[Del65166]

Stack never said he was going back for a funeral. It was for "cultural healing" for all you know it may have been a camping trip a planned family reunion or whatever.

Nothing wrong with a kid wanting to celebrate NYE weeks later.

Seriously, I am going to start that pearl clutcher's thread...

cultural healing is just being in your own nation, on your own land. Having said that a shame that it cut into Stacks training which had just resumed.

 

[Del65166]

maybe 200 pages is a nice end point ? even temporarily until Stack does something....or RFC does something ?

Is someone forcing you to read this? If not f off

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Non Christian mourning can have demands on mourners at set stages afterward. Buddhism at 21,49 & 100 days family are expected to participate in ceremonies. I know a Japanese person in Melb had to go back to Japan at these times during mourning.

given his funeral was a mass at a catholic church, are you claiming he was non-christian?

catholics tend to be funny about conducting mass for non-believers (my not catholic mate had to jump through months of hoops just to have his missus catholic church agree to marry them there)

 

[CaptchaProofBot]

Is someone forcing you to read this? If not f off

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[Del65166]

given his funeral was a mass at a catholic church, are you claiming he was non-christian?

catholics tend to be funny about conducting mass for non-believers (my not catholic mate had to jump through months of hoops just to have his missus catholic church agree to marry them there)

Not dispute on the place of funeral. I talked about non christian mourning suggesting that aborginal spirituality may have additional separate demands or practices.

 

[Grrr]

His FIRST insta post when he arrived back in Perth was asking for tickets to the NYE bash, nothing about his grandfather passing ,his grandfather god rest his soul had been buried two months before, when he left Melbourne to return the club iirc said he had to go back for his grandfathers funeral, which I guess is what they were told , so he lied to the club, what part of this do you want to dispute, or would you like links to these as well, we ALL want him to succeed as a player and a person but a few of us have doubts.

You seriously think the club wouldn't have known that his burial was 2 months ago when half the country did. In Aboriginal culture it is normal to have formal ceremonies and mourning period just like other cultures, so good chance it was to do with that. My mate died and groups from all over the country visited for weeks afterwards to mourn. Do you think the club is that stupid.

 

[Grrr]

But he WASNT at a funeral. Don't you get that bit?

So it was an excuse.

Stack's grandfather was a respected elder. Remember back to Stack's war dance pre Dreamtime game. He rang his grandfather to get permission from both his grandfather and local indigenous tribal elders, following custom. There was a long article about it. It showed and stated that Stack had strong connections with his culture. A mature and respectful thing to do. Going home may have been part of the mourning process, just like my Greek mate who had to attend the grave/ceremony months after his mother died. (Any Greeks back me up there, it was a while ago). As my previous post said, you think the club would know. We have quite a few indigenous boys at the club, welfare people etc. I doubt very much that the club did not know of this date prior to him coming back.

 

[Grrr]

What i find interesting his 2G2 application was on "compassionate grounds for cultural healing" not funeral as that was 3 months prior. 3 months is a decent period to mourn.

So why has Stacks manager, the club, the media and his supporters here still going with an actual funeral when they clearly know thats blatantly false.

Is a funeral v cultural healing a better way to soften the blow and make supporting him more manageable ?

Very cynical and based purely on your bias towards Stack.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Not dispute on the place of funeral. I talked about non christian mourning suggesting that aborginal spirituality may have additional separate demands or practices.

and you're assuming that these were happening

the number of passes people are willing to give this bloke for being selfish is amazing

 

[Grrr]

and you're assuming that these were happening

the number of passes people are willing to give this bloke for being selfish is amazing

No the number of people who are willing to make assumptions, let's say on both sides to be fair is amazing. None of us know much as the club has said virtually nothing. At least adding things like culture adds something. Quoting Jack/Houli/prestia and others also to the discussion. But just hanging the bloke because he is young and a reckless when he has actually harmed nobody but himself is amazing.

 

[Del65166]

and you're assuming that these were happening

the number of passes people are willing to give this bloke for being selfish is amazing

Well Stack was in Northam, on country. I have no idea what else is involved.
End of the day RFC are supporting him not sacking him and I agree with RFC on this one. If Jack Riewoldt's giving him a pass, then I defer to his greater knowledge. If JR is not saying Stack's a bad influence then I hope for the best.
My selfish self wants 2019 Stack to run around in the Y&B again cos he's a gun footballer who may help the 3 peat. Stack seems to be fine in Melbourne. My thoughts and prayers are that he settles quick. If all of that don't focus him then cut him loose.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

No the number of people who are willing to make assumptions, let's say on both sides to be fair is amazing. None of us know much as the club has said virtually nothing. At least adding things like culture adds something. Quoting Jack/Houli/prestia and others also to the discussion. But just hanging the bloke because he is young and a reckless when he has actually harmed nobody but himself is amazing.

what part of the cultural ceremony is breaking quarantine restrictions, going out partying, and getting into fights?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Well Stack was in Northam, on country. I have no idea what else is involved.
End of the day RFC are supporting him not sacking him and I agree with RFC on this one. If Jack Riewoldt's giving him a pass, then I defer to his greater knowledge. If JR is not saying Stack's a bad influence then I hope for the best.
My selfish self wants 2019 Stack to run around in the Y&B again cos he's a gun footballer who may help the 3 peat. Stack seems to be fine in Melbourne. My thoughts and prayers are that he settles quick. If all of that don't focus him then cut him loose.

thoughts and prayers, **** me dead...

 

[Drofder]

Very cynical and based purely on your bias towards Stack.

Fuget about it. On another holiday (again). Supervision groundhog.

Hearing there's quite a few issues developing with the Stackman. Hope its all recoverable. Can play. Like Pickett, always wanted him to be a success story i.e. overcoming adversity and such. Club will stick by him (good) but its his last chance saloon. Needs to help himself now as much as people helping him. As Neil Young says "comes a time."

 

[Grrr]

what part of the cultural ceremony is breaking quarantine restrictions, going out partying, and getting into fights?

Nothing, but they are different circumstances aren't they.
I have never dismissed his breaking quarantine and getting into strife once in my arguments as anything other than dumb, but sort of understandable in some respects. Believe it or not, you can have your cultural ceremony then you can go out, just like we might do after such an event. Better to keep your head down in Stack's case, but there you go. Have said all along however that the punishment does not befit the crime.