Sydney under Longmire

[BigVic]

1 flag, two heavy grand final defeats.

Swans have held him for too long with no succession plan. Thoughts? Should they move him on?

 

[Cool Kangas]

I think he’s been a good coach for them. Not too sure tonight is a fair indication. And the gf last year was kind of going to happen as Sydney played their gf the week before.

 

[Foucault1989]

Classic reactionary thread.

 

[Mordecai]

It's simple - he's an above average coach so no, you don't replace him.

 

[Anja_Nees]

1 flag, two heavy grand final defeats.

Swans have held him for too long with no succession plan. Thoughts? Should they move him on?

There was another grand final defeat too.

 

[Warhorse]

Made the Grand Final last year. So no

 

[Outtatym]

Oh good another 'insert club' where are they at thread to get bumped every week

 

[fnerd]

Is one of the leagues best coaches.
Plus gets to refresh his list every couple years with elite academy draft picks so no , he’s going nowhere

 

[maskmcgee]

Sure he gets them in the finals pretty much every year, but much like Geelong from 2012-2021, a decade without a flag. Is he basically coach of Sydney for life? If from now to the end of 2032 he has another 2 grand final defeats, 6 top 4 finishes but no premiership, is he still the coach? Does he get offered another contract?

 

[RAPPA]

I prefer the Fremantle under Longmuir thread

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

He made the granny 7 games ago....

 

[Rotayjay]

Can we divvy these threads?

 

[SA HAWK]

Rebuilt the team after their 2016 gf loss and made another gf last year with a young side.

Think he is doing ok.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Tonight was horseshit no pun intended.

Hard to make sense of coaching and players from that.

 

[longsuffreosupp]

Missing key forwards and backs, obviously you're not gonna go well..

 

[My Tilly]

Missing key forwards and backs, obviously you're not gonna go well..

He has always had the best of talent at his disposal.
I mean in many ways, it's not too dissimilar to Leon Cameron and his time at GWS.

Sydney right now have an extremely talented list. Gulden, Heeney, Papley, Warner, Florent, Mills, Blakey, Rampe, you can go and on and on.
He's had arguably the greatest forward of the modern era. Not to mention quality defenders and a local academy which keeps on pumping through top-end talent.

One wonders if Alastair Clarkson was at the helm, just how many premierships would they have won by now

 

[The 747]

He's consistently produced competitive sides (which is very important to Sydney), rebuilt the list completely, made a GF last year and has them primed to be contending for years.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Obviously have issues with Geelong but still a really young side and made the GF as a young side only 7 games ago. No not time to move him on, but definitely time for him to have a decent think about how he plays Geelong.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Longmire vs Longmuir - who will last Longer

 

[Captivating]

1 flag, two heavy grand final defeats.

Swans have held him for too long with no succession plan. Thoughts? Should they move him on?

Three very bad losses in his past 7 games. I think Swans over-achieved in 2022 and need to be looking to use 2023 to consolidate their new forward line without Franklin and Reid.

A down year but I like the Swans list a lot.

 

[Freomaniac]

I prefer the Fremantle under Longmuir thread

So do other Carlton fans like La Dispute, Kreuuuzeurns , WalshistheGOAT , Elmer_Judd and other Carlton fans.

Yet no one started a Ken Hinkley thread at Port Adelaide lol

 

[underthestars]

Darn good coach. Part of a very good culture they've built at sydney. massive overachievement last year when most expected them to fall out of finals contention, so conversely overrated this year. But for some widely recognised shocking umpiring he would have two flags as he deserves. Very similar record to scott at geelong in keeping his team in contention over a long period.

 

[outabounds]

Ridiculous thread, there would be multiple clubs that would want him.

 

[jim boy]

Had the prelim final last year gone on an extra 30 seconds, Sydney misses the GF and the bar is set a lot lower. Last night's loss would be seen as a bad loss, but part of the journey.
Sydney are a very well run club, once Longmire stops working for them, they will move on.

 

[kickazz]

So.

At the start of last year, many had the Swans finishing bottom six. They over delivered last year big time.

It is fair that expectations go up after that, but perhaps they need to be tempered a little bit. Still in the phase of an emerging good side that will have some hiccups. So whilst many consider them a flag chance (which they still may well be) I think bottom half of the eight would still actually be a good result this year.

On the specifics of last night: they were undermanned no doubt, but they were still poor and at times I struggled to figure out what they were trying to do. Many teams go into games undermanned and still find a way to make more of a scrap of it. On to next week.