Sydney v St Kilda

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Half Time:

Sydney Swans: 5.5.35
St Kilda Saints: 5.5.35

Best for the Saints: Lukey Ball Leigh Montagna
and for the Swans: Adam Goodes, Brett Kirk

This is one of the worst spectacles I have ever watched.
No wonder the Sydney public are slow in support of AFL football - if this is the tripe served up to them - I don't blame them for turning to League !
 

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Sydney Swans: 9.7.61
St Kilda Saints: 8.9.57

The worst game of footy continues.
A free kick to Swans gives them a goal after the siren that we couldn't afford to let them have.

Hudghton is a champion
 

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Well what a great, big fckin surprise.

Jones' disposal is absolutely pathetic. Had 6 kicks for about 5 clangers.
And Rix gets his pants pulled down i the ruck.

Just as I predicted

Attard - 5 disposals
Fiora - 9 disposals
L.Fisher - 5 disposals
Gehrig - 4 disposals
Jones - 8 disposals
Rix - 4 disposals

There are 6 players who contributed absolutely nothing, while the likes of Blake, Dal Santo, S.Fisher, Gram, Harvey and Riewoldt performed at a level nowhere near their usual standard.

TOO MANY PASSENGERS

Baker, Ball, Gilbert and Hudghton are the only players who can hold their heads high after that pathetic display.

There are too many players who butcher the ball
There are too many players who go missing
There are too many one-dimensional players
There are too many crap players
 

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Well what a great, big fckin surprise.

Jones' disposal is absolutely pathetic. Had 6 kicks for about 5 clangers.
And Rix gets his pants pulled down i the ruck.

Just as I predicted

Attard - 5 disposals
Fiora - 9 disposals
L.Fisher - 5 disposals
Gehrig - 4 disposals
Jones - 8 disposals
Rix - 4 disposals

There are 6 players who contributed absolutely nothing, while the likes of Blake, Dal Santo, S.Fisher, Gram, Harvey and Riewoldt performed at a level nowhere near their usual standard.

TOO MANY PASSENGERS

Baker, Ball, Gilbert and Hudghton are the only players who can hold their heads high after that pathetic display.

There are too many players who butcher the ball
There are too many players who go missing
There are too many one-dimensional players
There are too many crap players

thought rix was ok.. but i agree, so many players didnt contribute tonight, and jared mcveigh 3 goals????
 

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Well what a great, big fckin surprise.

Jones' disposal is absolutely pathetic. Had 6 kicks for about 5 clangers.
And Rix gets his pants pulled down i the ruck.

Just as I predicted

Attard - 5 disposals
Fiora - 9 disposals
L.Fisher - 5 disposals
Gehrig - 4 disposals
Jones - 8 disposals
Rix - 4 disposals

There are 6 players who contributed absolutely nothing, while the likes of Blake, Dal Santo, S.Fisher, Gram, Harvey and Riewoldt performed at a level nowhere near their usual standard.

TOO MANY PASSENGERS

Baker, Ball, Gilbert and Hudghton are the only players who can hold their heads high after that pathetic display.

There are too many players who butcher the ball
There are too many players who go missing
There are too many one-dimensional players
There are too many crap players
yup & I can't see this changing for the rest of the year. Now that Lyon's had his teething year I'd expect a decent change going into next year.
 

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Oh well, let Sydney go and see them make it into the Top 4 - and get our revenge in the Semis after their humiliating loss to the Cats in the Qualifier ...

With the other results of this weekend, we still have a good chance to make the finals (in particular if Geelong beat Adelaide and Freo beat Essendon) - we actually improved our precentage compared to the Bulldogs !

Freo and Adelaide should be be the biggest threats - making next week a MUST WIN game (and with a bit of luck on the other grounds, a win against the Tigers in Rd 22 may be enough) !
 

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Why the hell are we giving Fiora a go? He never plays well in losing side. Must be the least accountable player in the team (which I am ranting about at present!).

I think Roos was the better coach today, as he knew what RL knows and was able to make some changes. Not sure if that makes sense of not.
 

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Xavier Clarke was horrible. just horrible. lives on his reputation and high draft pick status.
I disagree - he is clearly talented but has nowhere near the fitness level required for the level he is playing at. He needs to learn what work ethic truly means. He has to maintain his fitness this year and carry it into next season - putting in a massive preseason. His skills aren't done justice because of his lack of physical strength and especially fitness.
 

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I disagree - he is clearly talented but has nowhere near the fitness level required for the level he is playing at. He needs to learn what work ethic truly means. He has to maintain his fitness this year and carry it into next season - putting in a massive preseason. His skills aren't done justice because of his lack of physical strength and especially fitness.
I hope you're disagreeing with the reputation bit, coz his game tonight was appalling. Had a few mates though. Any word on Gilbert?
 
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I agree with MSG that we are carrying too many players who do not contribute consistently. It must be remembered though that some players do sacrifice their game for the team. So statistics don't always bear out who those players are.

Tonights game wasn't really a personnel problem. We simply weren't able to match Sydney for sheer boredom. They play a game where they possess the ball or put it out of bounds. That's why they need such good ruckmen - to give them an advantage from the sheer number of throw ins that results from their style of play. They have to be highly skilled to play this style of play - and we quite frankly can't match it with them on the skills front. Our kicking is deplorable and laughable at times.

The loss of Goddard is telling, he is so highly skilled that we came to rely on him and it has taken us half a season to partially compensate for his absence.
Sydney saw this as fundamental to our demolition. They stopped Sam Fisher (who has taken Goddard's role) and they stopped Dal Santo (our next best kick) as well as Harvey and Gram (our most noted running players).

Sadly Sydney have received fewer free kicks than their opponents most of the season because of their style of play, but even so they managed the better of the free kicks when it came to playing the Saints. What was consisently paid as holding the ball against the Saints was merely a ball up when the Swans did exactly the same thing.

Frustrating but not really changing the result in any way. We simply were outsmarted by a better coach and a more highly skilled squad who played boring but winning football.

Is this where football is permanently headed?

The boring stuff that frustrates rather than entertains?

I know the Sydney public are happy - they don't seem to require entertainment - just victory - but I believe that I speak for a vast unvoiced majority who are not happy that bad football results in victory.

The Saints season is all but over after this loss. I am sad because of this, but I am also disappointed that football continues to be headed towards a boring nondescript unentertaining continuation of the Sydney style of play.
 

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I agree with MSG that we are carrying too many players who do not contribute consistently. It must be remembered though that some players do sacrifice their game for the team. So statistics don't always bear out who those players are.

Tonights game wasn't really a personnel problem. We simply weren't able to match Sydney for sheer boredom. They play a game where they possess the ball or put it out of bounds. That's why they need such good ruckmen - to give them an advantage from the sheer number of throw ins that results from their style of play. They have to be highly skilled to play this style of play - and we quite frankly can't match it with them on the skills front. Our kicking is deplorable and laughable at times.

The loss of Goddard is telling, he is so highly skilled that we came to rely on him and it has taken us half a season to partially compensate for his absence.
Sydney saw this as fundamental to our demolition. They stopped Sam Fisher (who has taken Goddard's role) and they stopped Dal Santo (our next best kick) as well as Harvey and Gram (our most noted running players).

Sadly Sydney have received fewer free kicks than their opponents most of the season because of their style of play, but even so they managed the better of the free kicks when it came to playing the Saints. What was consisently paid as holding the ball against the Saints was merely a ball up when the Swans did exactly the same thing.

Frustrating but not really changing the result in any way. We simply were outsmarted by a better coach and a more highly skilled squad who played boring but winning football.

Is this where football is permanently headed?

The boring stuff that frustrates rather than entertains?

I know the Sydney public are happy - they don't seem to require entertainment - just victory - but I believe that I speak for a vast unvoiced majority who are not happy that bad football results in victory.

The Saints season is all but over after this loss. I am sad because of this, but I am also disappointed that football continues to be headed towards a boring nondescript unentertaining continuation of the Sydney style of play.
What a load of dribble. I love playing the violin to people like you. In the end it was the survival of the fittest. Strewth Lyon had the massive flood going all night and in the end we kept going and you blokes ran out of legs.

In Melbourne earlier in the year Lyon played the same tactics and won, this time it didn't work.
 

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Very surprised at the comments here. Tonight was a pressure game akin to finals footy. Both teams applied great pressure all night and I believe it was the superior fitness of the Swans that saw them win out at the end. But both teams played some very good football, not a high scoring game, but very entertaining IMO. And yes, the umpiring was horrible for both sides, although I'll admit we got the better of it. We don't usually, so I'll take it.
 

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I agree with MSG that we are carrying too many players who do not contribute consistently. It must be remembered though that some players do sacrifice their game for the team. So statistics don't always bear out who those players are.

Tonights game wasn't really a personnel problem. We simply weren't able to match Sydney for sheer boredom. They play a game where they possess the ball or put it out of bounds. That's why they need such good ruckmen - to give them an advantage from the sheer number of throw ins that results from their style of play. They have to be highly skilled to play this style of play - and we quite frankly can't match it with them on the skills front. Our kicking is deplorable and laughable at times.

The loss of Goddard is telling, he is so highly skilled that we came to rely on him and it has taken us half a season to partially compensate for his absence.
Sydney saw this as fundamental to our demolition. They stopped Sam Fisher (who has taken Goddard's role) and they stopped Dal Santo (our next best kick) as well as Harvey and Gram (our most noted running players).

Sadly Sydney have received fewer free kicks than their opponents most of the season because of their style of play, but even so they managed the better of the free kicks when it came to playing the Saints. What was consisently paid as holding the ball against the Saints was merely a ball up when the Swans did exactly the same thing.

Frustrating but not really changing the result in any way. We simply were outsmarted by a better coach and a more highly skilled squad who played boring but winning football.

Is this where football is permanently headed?

The boring stuff that frustrates rather than entertains?

I know the Sydney public are happy - they don't seem to require entertainment - just victory - but I believe that I speak for a vast unvoiced majority who are not happy that bad football results in victory.

The Saints season is all but over after this loss. I am sad because of this, but I am also disappointed that football continues to be headed towards a boring nondescript unentertaining continuation of the Sydney style of play.

Never read a bigger load of shit in my life.

You don't run as hard as us. Not as fit as us. You're not as accountable as us. You're not bold enough when attacking.

I can see how that can't be too entertaining.

When the game was on the line (last quarter) - what did you produce? Where was your forward line? Inside your 50m.

Go to bed.
 

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It was a tight game, I wouldn't call it exciting though. We put up a good fight but were overran by a better side - at 3 quarter time that late goal on the siren was the first nail in the coffin. With our record in final quarters (lack of fitness, mental problems?) we really needed to make the most of our opportunities in the first 3 quarters and we didn't.

Classic Sydney victory, grinded away until they gained control and they did it very well. Should meet the Cats in the GF - although the game against the Pies in two weeks will most likely decide whether you get a top 4 berth. Good luck in the finals, maybe we'll meet you there (hopefully...:))
 
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You've beaten us once in the last five meetings before tonight and on that occasion we were heavily compromised by injury. We always have played free flowing attacking football. We beat you on skill and flair.

You beat us tonight on exactly the opposite. You beat us on possession and ugly knock it out of bounds football.

I lament that you won using those tactics, but it is partly due to our own approach. Our coach was outsmarted by yours. We played your style of football and we played it poorer than you did. It was not smart. It was not pretty. In fact it was ugly.

What scares me is that if this goes on I may lose my passion for this game.

I want to watch entertaining football - not this junk.
 

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I want to watch entertaining football - not this junk.
Too much victoria bitter tonight sunny? Sadly you are out of luck cause Rossy is keen too play the brand of footy you hate. If i was you I would just give up now!

Ahh victory is so much sweeter when i read such tripe from such a medicore supporter base.

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You've beaten us once in the last five meetings before tonight and on that occasion we were heavily compromised by injury. We always have played free flowing attacking football. We beat you on skill and flair.

You beat us tonight on exactly the opposite. You beat us on possession and ugly knock it out of bounds football.

I lament that you won using those tactics, but it is partly due to our own approach. Our coach was outsmarted by yours. We played your style of football and we played it poorer than you did. It was not smart. It was not pretty. In fact it was ugly.

What scares me is that if this goes on I may lose my passion for this game.

I want to watch entertaining football - not this junk.
First of all, congratulations to the two teams for fighting out a very hard fought, intense game. In a way it was quite a finals-like game, and miles better than the rugby-league-style "handball your way up to field to the F50" games that seem to have infested the AFL competition recently. Now that is ugly football, if you can even call it "football" anymore when there's more handballs than kicks in a game.

On your other point - our "possession football" style tonight was a response to your "getting numbers behind the ball" style that you played tonight. Generally speaking we've averaged 100 marks per 200 kicks this year, but tonight we had 120 marks for our 200 kicks in the match, well up on average. It was almost exactly the same as the match earlier this year, except this time we tackled harder, and kicked a bit better.

And for the record I quite enjoyed our 2006 stosh in the mud too. Old-fashioned footy at its finest.
 

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You've beaten us once in the last five meetings before tonight and on that occasion we were heavily compromised by injury. We always have played free flowing attacking football. We beat you on skill and flair.

You beat us tonight on exactly the opposite. You beat us on possession and ugly knock it out of bounds football.

I lament that you won using those tactics, but it is partly due to our own approach. Our coach was outsmarted by yours. We played your style of football and we played it poorer than you did. It was not smart. It was not pretty. In fact it was ugly.

What scares me is that if this goes on I may lose my passion for this game.

I want to watch entertaining football - not this junk.
We have served up this junk everytime we have lost this season..

Lyon needs to pull something out when a team negates what we are doing. What worries me at present is a few things

1 - The 4th Qtr fade outs obviously
2 - We dont look fit enough ..
3 - A lack of attacking flair when needed.

We are the complete opposite of the team under GT (I have been one of GT's biggest critics here) I hated the fact that we were not accountable under GT and we had too many goals kicked on us.

Now we cant kick enough goals !!! .. somewhere there has to be a happy medium. Lyon doesnt seem the sort of coach to take a risk. Sometimes it is exactly what is needed.
 
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