Autopsy Sydney Vs Essendon Round 2. 2020

[The King!]

There’s no issue on heeney other than wether he will be a superstar

It’s like your 100 dollar notes being a bit troublesome in your wallet


Teams would take him in a heartbeat
Actually he would probably be better in different style teams

 

[RUNVS]

We tried and had to be moved cause was getting embarrassing for him

Please point to the matches where we "tried"?

All I can think of is 2 preseason games a year or two ago, one of the games he was poor in (but the entire team was poor that day) and another game where he was arguably the best player on the ground.

 

[TheMase]

How do we know that Mills won’t be a mid? The coach won’t even play him there.

Not sure why we need to keep covering this to be honest.

Unlike the rest of us, the coaching group get to see Mills at training and through match sims.

It is pretty obvious at this point that if they were hiding a gem in the cupboard they would have pulled the trigger. A coach doesn’t need to play a player in a live AFL match in a position if his peers have made him look second rate in said position in match sims.

Mills simply isn’t a midfielder. He isn’t blessed without outside speed, he isn’t even particularly clean at ground level, he isn’t a runner and his 360 degree awareness is questionable at times. I am unsure as to how any of this is going to change by “just trying it”. It will fail, or at the very best, won’t improve on what we already have (ie. he has teammates that are far better midfielders than he could be and without a doubt they would have shown him as much at training).

He is however a pretty good defender and will only get better there. And there is nothing wrong with that!!

I’d love those who are desperate for him to go into the midfield to tell me exactly what skills he has that you believe will see our midfield improve.

I think it’s just clutching at straws personally!

 

[The King!]

We drive off half back a lot and Mills is a key to our half back line

I’d be more worried about teams dragging him deep than getting him into the guts

 

[Millky95]

We drive off half back a lot and Mills is a key to our half back line

I’d be more worried about teams dragging him deep than getting him into the guts

Agreed. He is an attacking half back that got isolated way too easily.

That said that free to MTW was idiotic at best

 

[The King!]

At the centre bounce Florent never stands near his opponent

That gets exposed when the ruck is lost

 

[TheMase]

We drive off half back a lot and Mills is a key to our half back line

I’d be more worried about teams dragging him deep than getting him into the guts

Bombers actually did a pretty good job of pulling Mills and Dawson deep inside 50, exposing them defensively and limiting their impact.

 

[sataris]

Agreed. He is an attacking half back that got isolated way too easily.

That said that free to MTW was idiotic at best

MTW was the man on the mark iirc, imagine if he had to have 360 awareness like he would playing in the midfield.

 

[The King!]

I had a shot every time they mentioned essendon took an aeroplane On replay

Passed out In the first quarter

 

[sataris]

I had a shot every time they mentioned essendon took an aeroplane On replay

Passed out In the first quarter

aeroplane or airplane?

 

[Millky95]

Bombers actually did a pretty good job of pulling Mills and Dawson deep inside 50, exposing them defensively and limiting their impact.

Dawson should not be in the back line. A wing as a link up player or HFF driving the ball inside 50. We really missed his kicking going inside 50

 

[RUNVS]

Not sure why we need to keep covering this to be honest.

Unlike the rest of us, the coaching group get to see Mills at training and through match sims.

It is pretty obvious at this point that if they were hiding a gem in the cupboard they would have pulled the trigger. A coach doesn’t need to play a player in a live AFL match in a position if his peers have made him look second rate in said position in match sims.

Mills simply isn’t a midfielder. He isn’t blessed without outside speed, he isn’t even particularly clean at ground level, he isn’t a runner and his 360 degree awareness is questionable at times. I am unsure as to how any of this is going to change by “just trying it”. It will fail, or at the very best, won’t improve on what we already have (ie. he has teammates that are far better midfielders than he could be and without a doubt they would have shown him as much at training).

He is however a pretty good defender and will only get better there. And there is nothing wrong with that!!

I’d love those who are desperate for him to go into the midfield to tell me exactly what skills he has that you believe will see our midfield improve.

I think it’s just clutching at straws personally!

I am sorry but you can't use this argument as this was the same coaching group that looked at Mitchell and said "well, he isn't that good, certainly we have better midfielders than him" and then lowballed his contract before giving him away for pick 14. If they got it so wrong with Mitchell why is it hard to believe they have not gotten it wrong with Mills?

 

[The King!]

aeroplane or airplane?

Not in favour of the traditional British use? Like the jelly

 

[sataris]

Not in favour of the traditional British use? Like the jelly

If we replaced our midfield with Aeroplane Jelly, would any one notice?

 

[The King!]

If we replaced our midfield with Aeroplane Jelly, would any one notice?

Lewis Taylor to the midfield ?

 

[MarkP]

Still pissed off that our 12 week unbeaten run and top of the the table position has stopped.

 

[sataris]

Lewis Taylor to the midfield ?

Harsh.

 

[TheMase]

I am sorry but you can't use this argument as this was the same coaching group that looked at Mitchell and said "well, he isn't that good, certainly we have better midfielders than him" and then lowballed his contract before giving him away for pick 14. If they got it so wrong with Mitchell why is it hard to believe they have not gotten it wrong with Mills?

Good god I don’t want to be dragged into a Mitchell debate.

- coaching group never said he wasn’t good
- at the time he was indeed not as good as Kennedy, Parker, Hannebery
- they prioritised Hannebery and Parker for contract signing both better at the time
- can’t create salary cap space out of thin air, he was at the time a 4th line midfielder and would have received an offer consummate to his position on our list, fairly reasonable at that time

Mitchell was always considered a midfielder, he has elite awareness, runs hard (now he does, spent a bit of time in the twos working on that....) and has elite hands/ground ball. In fact all the things that make Mitchell a midfielder and Mills not!

 

[Dubsforsam1]

I am sorry but you can't use this argument as this was the same coaching group that looked at Mitchell and said "well, he isn't that good, certainly we have better midfielders than him" and then lowballed his contract before giving him away for pick 14. If they got it so wrong with Mitchell why is it hard to believe they have not gotten it wrong with Mills?

Remind us who Mitchell was up against in midfield in those days and who we should have got rid of to pay him more money?

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[The King!]

Remember when Tom Hafey played Stevie Wright in defence , *en stupid

 

[Punts]

Mills a poor mans N Smith atm

He isn’t really a running defender either

 

[BloodySwan]

I think the problem with Heeney is we'd rather see him kick roughly 3 goals a game than have a BOG performance just to go missing in the next match. Needs to be more consistent at his age, because if not now, when?

I think everyone would rather see Heeney consistently kick 3 goals a match, just highlighting how quick this board is to turn on it's players

 

[Millky95]

Mills a poor mans N Smith atm

He isn’t really a running defender either

More of a McVeigh meets Shaw/Malceski type that isn't quite working

 

[Punts]

Would mills be even as good as L McDonald as that’s who I put him next to atm

 

[RUNVS]

Would mills be even as good as L McDonald as that’s who I put him next to atm

What did Mills do to you? You have had a rather strong dislike for him for years boarding on the Bedford completely unjustified dislike of McVeigh.