Certified Legendary Thread Sympathy for *essendon - congratulations on '16 Wooden Spoon (RIP The Scales)

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Going by the Kübler-Ross model:

Denial - tick.
Anger - tick.
Bargaining - hmmm... probably where * is at the moment.
Depression -
Acceptance -

Still a while to go yet!

I thought this was worth sharing from wikipedia:

Grieving in substance abuse
Denial
People feel that they do not have a problem concerning alcohol or substances. Even if they do feel as if they might have a small problem they believe that they have complete control over the situation and can stop drinking or doing drugs whenever they want. Example: “I don’t have to drink all of the time. I can stop whenever I want.”

Anger
The anger stage of abusers relates to how they get upset because they have an addiction or are angry that they can no longer use drugs. Some of these examples include “I don’t want to have this addiction anymore.” “This isn’t fair, I’m too young to have this problem.”

Bargaining
This is the stage that drug and alcohol abusers go through when they are trying to convince themselves or someone else that they are going to stop abusing in order to get something out of it or get themselves out of trouble. Example: “God, I promise I’ll never use again if you just get me out of trouble.”

Depression
Sadness and hopelessness are important parts of the depression stage when dealing with a drug abuser. Most abusers experience this when they are going through the withdrawal stage quitting their addiction. It is important to communicate these feelings as a process of the healing.

Acceptance
With substance abusers, admitting the existence of a problem is different from accepting the problem. When a substance abuser admits that he/she has a problem, this is more likely to occur in the bargaining stage. Accepting that he/she has a problem is when you realise that you have a problem and start the process to resolve the issue.
That last paragraph in the quote above sums up *Donialists pretty well!
 
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Can anyone explain to me why reduced sentences were being touted? Why would deals be cut with baulkers and avoiders? Deals should only have been offered in the early days with co-operators, not "arms-twisted" "show me the money" co-operators after having been offered the chance twenty times.
 

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Ummmm....yeah :eek: That was weird.

Though there was one comment in there that almost makes up for all the kool aid inspired idiocy:

In the beginning I was prepared to give those responsible, primarily James Hird, the benefit of the doubt, in that the Club simply sought to improve it's sports science capabilities, but chose the wrong person (Dank) to do it. I was prepared to forgive the Club for not being far more diligent when performing referee checks on Mr Dank. Until the current court case, I was still prepared to give the Club the benefit of the doubt, despite the untold damage this saga has caused the us. Damage being kicked out of the finals, loss of draft picks, the financial cost incurred (remembering that Ess members gave money out of their own pocket to building our new training facility) and the personal insults directed at myself as an Ess fan, from supporters of other clubs. But that all changed the day James stated in court words to the effect of 'the sports science dept didn't come under my area of responsibility'. After everything that's happened and may still happen, for James to say that was unforgivable in terms of accepting responsibility for the events which occurred in 2012. My question(s) therefore are: 1. If our best players simply walk out on us due to the duty of care clause in their contract, will James take any responsibility for that? 2. Having been comprehensively unsuccessful in our court proceedings instigated by us, why are we even considering an appeal given that it's no chance of being successful and doing so will incurr further (substantial) legal costs, after the millions spent/wasted already by the club. 3. If our best players walk out, will James's position become immediately untenable and as such, will he either step down, or be dismissed by the Board? I loved James as a player. He was the person responsilbe for me changing from an NRL fan, to an AFL fan in the mid 90's. If it weren't for him, I'd probably still be an NRL fan. I was thrilled when James 'came home' to coach us. However, I believe that he should stand aside as coach. I hold James ultimately responsible for the 2012 supplement program and when others have resigned their positions along the way and taken responsibility for their role in the saga, James hasn't and it's time he did, considering the outcome of the court case and the damage done to the club in it's totality over the past 2 years. I believe that while ever James remains at the Club, we'll continue to be 'slaughtered' regularly in the media and us (the fans) will be the ones that suffer as a result. In saying that, I haven't forgotten the suffering endured by our wonderful players for over 2 years now. I also believe that if Paul Little and the Board sanction further futile court challenges and appeals, imposing further hefty legal costs on the Club, that an EGM be called and a motion be moved for the dismissal of Mr Little and the current Board.

I'll pay that.
 
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