Certified Legendary Thread Sympathy for *essendon - congratulations on '16 Wooden Spoon (RIP The Scales)

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This bloke is a contrarian idiot. He is confusing the argument surrounding AOD9604 with Thymosin Beta 4. There can be no confusion over the legality of Thymosin Beta 4. The only confusion is that Stephen Dank made a colossal mistake by first of all using this banned substance on his guinea pigswhen he thought it was okay by WADA, secondly, admitting to it then later trying to change his tune.
 

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No I don't support drugs in sport. I also don't support cheating. I had no problem with my club AND you club being 'done' for breaching the salary cap either.. for example. I don't like cheating full stop. NO matter the scale.. I also don't like divers, head duckers and Lindsay Thomas for the same reasons.

However, right now, I think the hysteria has created a situation in which the 'truth' because the first casualty of 'war'.

When ASADA ADMITS in 'open court' that they 'added SAFE AND LEGAL injections to an interim report to make it 'look worse' for the sake of whipping up a public frenzy.. and that barely gets a mention? That is when you realise that the truth ceased to matter in this case.

I wish people would think about that.. like really think about that. An Anti-Doping body (ie they only exist to stop DOPING) adds in legal supplements (Vitamin C for example) in order to make a situation 'appear' more inflammatory (EFC players given '1600 injections') to create a public panic to enable them to punish individuals... is just plain wrong. I don't care it is legal or not (Middleton say fair play then no worries).. but it is certainly immoral and dangerous.

It actually doesn't matter if the players took 600,000 vitamin C tablets.. or 4,000,000 Deep Heat rubs.. that is not ASADA's role.. in the slightest. To use chemical names to make perfectly safe, common and widely used products appear 'murky and experimental' was just sheer manipulation.

Might as well be honest and freely admit that I ingested 300mL of H2O this morning, along with 89 various peptides which decreased postprandial ghrelin secretion as assessed with the acetaminophen absorption test. Sounds impressive, Caro could write many headlines..

I look at the NSW media and how they have behaved.. a FAR better example of what could have occurred, should have occurred. Then the truth might have been a more realistic outcome.


Rines*.

I'm sorry rines*, l am actually from NSW and the media is even more crap as it is in Victoria.
 

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Had a chat today to a family member of Chris Langford, who's had several conversations with him over the last two years. Main points were:

- there remains a hell of a lot of anger both ways between Hird and the AFL supremos. They wanted him gone from the game for good. Hird for his part has a "dangerous" thirst for vengeance toward the AFL and will not rest until he's exposed all the goings on from last year, which he regards as a disgrace. Little has agreed to try to "keep him on a leash" re the AFL head honchos.

- the AFL for their part are certain individual players will escape sanction - there's no strong case against any one player. Not ultimately their call though.

- the AFL will not take further action against the club or officials. Club was whacked last year and that's it.

Second hand so doubtlessly some mayo added, take it for what it is.



WHAT*?
 

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I wholeheartedly agreed with the case, test the merits and 'delay' the SCN's till end of season.

To drag this out for another 6-8 months on appeal would be sheer torture. If the club is worried the players will be 'done'.. then get them a 6 month back dated deal and move on.. if the club thinks the players are safe (as they keep saying) then move along to a tribunal and get this thing done..

Either way sort it out now. No way should a player endure 3 years of this hell.. only to be told we are no closer to resolving the actual case than when we started.

Which feeds in to my main point.. our players have now been punished for two years.. longer than the MAXIMUM doping sanction.. and all without a single piece of evidence being shown or tested in a meaningful way. Disgraceful by ALL parties involved to allow it to fester for this long. Utterly unforgivable.

FFS rines*, grow a brain.
 

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This from the age - explains a lot

Essendon followers are the most likely fans to down a pre-mixed drink such as a Vodka Cruiser or a Bicardi Breezer.
 

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A little birdie told me that * has drastically increased their 2015 membership fees - their concession membership increased by $55 from what they paid for 2014.

Of course * wouldn't be wasting members' money on frivolous things such as million dollar holidays to *albert and *multi-million dollar lawsuits with bugger all chance of success.
 

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For starters...I BACK JAMES HIRD THE WHOLE WAY! HE PUT IT ALL ON THE LINE FOR US EVERY WEEK. LEGEND, WARRIOR, LEADER. People on here waver all the time! Lots of opinions. Plenty good, but i'm not that fussed with the general vibe! VERY DISAPPOINTING!!! He put his head over the ball every time! Vines has been wonderful! ManWithNoName is degenerative! It's a Red Sash not Yellow! ;) I BACK JAMES HIRD THE WHOLE WAY! HE PUT IT ALL ON THE LINE FOR US EVERY WEEK. LEGEND, WARRIOR, LEADER.
Have we had the opportunity to reveal our supplement records yet? It's a question I haven't seen raised. Have AFL/ASADA/Media asked for it or provided an avenue for its declaration? Or are we stuck waiting to be served notices. If we have them we should produce them (front foot) and ask naysayers for the opportunity. That surely nullifies negative stances (Media, Public etc.) and asks ASADA to provide evidence otherwise. Did 'Connors' say today 'the world needs to know Essendon are clear'? Other AFL clubs are circling??? Why pick up a drug cheat who might be out for a couple of years when WADA come over the top? Essendon assistance coach/es taking #1 coach roles??? This is spiralling out of control and we (EFC) don't seem to have really been invited to comment yet. ASADA/AFL might have one holy mess on their hand s on their watch. No backtracking now! We've had a hard time but I'm not sure I want to be in their shoes!?
I BACK JAMES HIRD THE WHOLE WAY! HE PUT IT ALL ON THE LINE FOR US EVERY WEEK. LEGEND, WARRIOR, LEADER.
I'm not interested in other arrangements to our coaching list. Add Harvey is a winner. Welcome back Harvs.
 

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In recognition and acknowledgement of all those wonderful *posters over there on the *essendon board I thought I would list a few causes, conspiracies and theories that doubtless those *donialists can comfortable align with.

The Flat Earth Society
The Elvis is not Dead Conspiracy theory
The Harold Holt was murdered/taken by martians/kidnapped by the CIA theories
The JFK Assassination theory
The Barack Obama Citizenship Conspiracy
The Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories
The Global Warming Conspiracy
The Paul is Dead Conspiracy
The Schapelle Truth Conspiracy

I've gone with nine because it rhymes with *rines but there are many others that those fine *people over *there will feel bound to support.

The world is surely against *them isn't it. How terribly unfair life is.
 
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In recognition and acknowledgement of all those wonderful *posters over there on the *essendon board I thought I would list a few causes, conspiracies and theories that doubtless those *donialists can comfortable align with.

The Harold Holt was murdered/kidnapped theories
The JFK Assassination theory
The Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories
The Global Warming Conspiracy
The Paul is Dead Conspiracy

The world is surely against *them isn't it. How terribly unfair life is.
Tinfoil hat firmly affixed, chuck me down for Dianna was assassinated, 9/11 was an inside job, doubts about Port Arthur and intellegent life exists beyong earth, and you've nailed me to a "tee".

Can't speak on behalf of the rest of 'em though. You could probably PM them.
 
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