Certified Legendary Thread Sympathy for *essendon - congratulations on '16 Wooden Spoon (RIP The Scales)

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Ergo, Caro is above criticism on this thread.
Meh, I'll never forgive Caro but football is tribal sport where realpolitik dominates. so at the moment I'm laughing like a hyena at every article she pens. That will change as soon as she has a new target.
 

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Oh lordy...


If Hird loses his job, he should sue WADA for interfering. They have no place in the AFL, the AFL is an Australian sport and it is not world based (yet), so there is no need for WADA to stick their noses in and ruin seasons for Essendon. So if their actions contribute to Hird's downfall, they should be sued!
Would love to see him try.

WADA Barrister (WB): Mr Hird were you injected with banned tanning and boner juice by hanky danky?

*Jimmy Turd: Do I really have to take responsibility and answer that?

WB: So Mr Hird are you able to provide details to the court of what drugs each player was injected with?

*JT: No but I'm sure that it wasn't illegal, harmful or performance enhancing. I've seen a spreadsheet goddammit!
 

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Quote one K. Sheedy.

Said;
. pressure placed on *Hird from outside the club was unfair.
. * Hird was a young coach coming through, he listened to advice, he goes along and does what he believes that they should do, he says " yes " we'll try that supplements plan and the rest is history.

Now Kevin. Really ?
#eternallyshitstained
 

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Quote one K. Sheedy.

Said;
. pressure placed on *Hird from outside the club was unfair.
. * Hird was a young coach coming through, he listened to advice, he goes along and does what he believes that they should do, he says " yes " we'll try that supplements plan and the rest is history.

Now Kevin. Really ?
#eternallyshitstained
What does history tell us about football clubs. if the board has to public support an embattled coach. It generally means he's out the door soon.
 

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What does history tell us about football clubs. if the board has to public support an embattled coach. It generally means he's out the door soon.
Please be as an outcome of our game.

Oh please just give us this one.

It would be magnificent.
 

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Please be as an outcome of our game.

Oh please just give us this one.

It would be magnificent.
And fair enough too. We have had to endure a very difficult season this year, yet throughout all of our travails, we have remained above the doom and gloom of that, and magnanimously continued to show our everlasting *sympathy for *essendon. What greater sacrifice than that?
 

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I think it goes without saying, and without any exaggeration at all, that this weekend's game against * is the most important in Melbourne's history.

Please Melbourne, please flog the absolute utter living shit out of *
Nah beat them by a point.

The we kick the absolute living shit out of them.

Goldy with 95 hit outs and 6 goals.
 

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So, *Jimmeh, it's about the truth is it now?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...as-never-meant-to-emerge-20150712-gialcf.html

Essendon coach James Hird has declared there are "ordinary individuals" working in the AFL industry and maintains the truth was never meant to emerge in the investigation into the club's controversial supplements and injecting program.

A frustrated Hird even took aim on Sunday directly at AFL headquarters, claiming there were officials there who had said: "It's not about the truth".

At a time when his players are mentally struggling to deal with the saga likely to extend into a fourth year, with a World Anti-Doping Agency appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport yet to be set, Hird has reopened old wounds.

"Of course, I think the AFL should take some blame for where this is at," he said.

"The way it was handled early on and the way it's been handled the whole way through – media leaks. I probably won't say any more.

"There are certainly some people within the AFL industry that I have no time for – who I think are ordinary individuals and don't speak the truth. They have agendas and drive really hard towards their own agendas.

"The biggest issue in this is that the truth was never the desired outcome or the truth got lost along the way. There are plenty of examples of people who are working at the AFL now who have said the truth doesn't matter any more, it's not about the truth."

Hird was suspended for the 2014 season as a result of governance failures during the injecting program run by Stephen Dank in 2012. Hird twice appealed to the Federal Court against the legality of the joint investigation by the AFL and the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority but failed. He was almost sacked as coach over his determination to appeal a second time.

The players were charged with being administered the banned drug, thymosin beta 4, but the AFL anti-doping tribunal ruled it was not comfortably satisfied that they had been given the substance. This prompted a WADA appeal. Dank, however, has been banned by the AFL and NRL from working in their sports.

Speaking on 3AW, Hird said: "The truth from the start wasn't what was sought and the people who have tried to speak the truth have been closed down and haven't been allowed to talk about it. Or, a different form of the truth has been pushed out through the media."

Hird had agreed to a non-disparagement clause when he signed a deed of settlement in 2013 that formalised his suspension. This was brought into focus when his wife Tania attacked the AFL and former chief executive Andrew Demetriou in March last year.

The Bombers then gave the Hirds clear "protocols" on how they were to handle the saga, with chairman Paul Little declaring: "I think it's time for James to get over his anger".

Another concern for Hird is that the Bombers' bid to revamp their playing list could be complicated by what the coach has conceded is an unwillingness of free agents and uncontracted stars from rival clubs to join the club.

While they ended a five-game losing skid, with a win over Melbourne on Saturday, the Bombers appear almost certain to miss the finals.

A dozen of the players who took to the field at the MCG had played fewer than 40 matches, with Hird later saying he would keep "an eye on the future" for the rest of the reason.

The Bombers have decisions to make on several players, including Paul Chapman, Brent Stanton, Courtenay Dempsey, Jason Winderlich, Tom Bellchambers and Dustin Fletcher, while not everything will be in their hands, with out-of-contract tall utility Jake Carlisle tired of dealing with the supplements saga and set to consider his options.

Hird has said the Bombers will look to regenerate through the draft but it appears unlikely they will snag a major name because of the uncertainty that still hangs over the club as a result of the anti-doping case.

The uncertainty over the senior coaching role in recent years has also added to the club's dramas.

"There is no doubt we need to regenerate the list and bring in youth. I wouldn't have thought we will make the finals this year. It would be an amazing effort if we did," Hird said.

"We will go to the draft table. I don't think we are the most appealing club for players to come to from other clubs at the moment with everything going on so we are committed with going down the youth path but with a balance.

"You don't tip out, if players are in form, if they are playing well. We'll recontract them, but also bring in some youth."

In recent times, the Bombers were able to snare Brendon Goddard from St Kilda as a restricted free agent in 2012 and James Gwilt, another Saint, last year as a restricted free agent. Chapman came via a fifth-round draft trade in 2013 but the Bombers last year lost ruckman Paddy Ryder as he and his family had grown tired of dealing with the anti-doping case.
 

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Looking forward to *jimmy naming the names of those who "are (very) ordinary) individuals and don't speak the truth". Be brave (again) *jimmy and name them.

I mean I really want to believe you *jimmy especially when you say "The biggest issue in this is that the truth was never the desired outcome or the truth got lost along the way. There are plenty of examples of people who are working at the AFL now who have said the truth doesn't matter any more, its not about the truth".

Name them *jimmy, we all need to know.
 

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Looking forward to *jimmy naming the names of those who "are (very) ordinary) individuals and don't speak the truth". Be brave (again) *jimmy and name them.

I mean I really want to believe you *jimmy especially when you say "The biggest issue in this is that the truth was never the desired outcome or the truth got lost along the way. There are plenty of examples of people who are working at the AFL now who have said the truth doesn't matter any more, its not about the truth".

Name them *jimmy, we all need to know.
I don't doubt there were people at the AFL who didn't want the truth to come out. Of course they were trying to manipulate the outcome and bring out the truth that suited them, because that's what they do. But I don't think anyone needs a moral lecture from the only person in the whole sorry saga to go to court to suppress the investigation and have evidence ruled inadmissable on a technicality.

He is mad that the AFL's solution saw him as expendable, and far less important than the players playing and the competition continuing with minimal disruption. And he has the opposite view. We all get that. But he needs to choose to either move on or speak up - this self-serving hinting business is very, very old.
 
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