Taking a free after OOB of the full.

[Glenhope]

Ok, say, team A kicks the ball out on the full. Team B is awarded a free kick. Umpire locates the player (Bob) taking the kick to start behind the mark, outside the boundary. Bob sizes up his options. Umpire calls "move it on". Bob ponders. Umpire says "play on". Bob stands motionless with the ball (still outside the boundary). What happens? Is it a throw-in? I've seen situations where "play on" is called and Bob proceeds to kick the ball in, so a throw-in is not automatic.

(Extra credit if you can quote the rule that covers this.)

 

[Michaels]

I know this doesn't answer your question but I have never ever understood why a boundary throw in isn't called the moment the umpire calls play on and the ball is still out of play.

It makes no sense that they get extra time to get rid of it in a play on situation while being outside the field of play.


it's the same when a player is tackled over the boundary line but then is pinged for holding the ball because he didn't dispose of it while out of bounds.

hang on.. the moment the ball is out of play it should have been called as a throw in and the holding the ball decision becomes void.

 

[ossie_21]

It would be a throw in, disadvantage to the team that had the free kick & a player getting dragged for an old fashioned spray

16.5 DISPOSAL – FROM OUT OF BOUNDS

16.5.1 When Permitted
(a) A Player who is awarded a Free Kick or a Mark may bring the
football into play from outside the Playing Surface beyond the Boundary Line provided that the Player moves in one direction whilst in the act of Kicking, Handballing or moving to cross the Boundary Line.
(b) If a Player who is awarded a Free Kick or a Mark either disposes
of or carries the football from outside the Playing Surface beyond the Boundary Line, the football shall be deemed to be Out of Bounds and the boundary Umpire shall throw in the football back into play at the spot where the original Free Kick or Mark took place if the Player:

(i) fails to bring the football into play; or
(ii) attempts to play on from outside the Playing Surface
beyond the Boundary Line; or
(iii) attempts to bring the football into play through the Goal
Line or Behind Line; or
(iv) does not bring the football into play in accordance with
Law 16.5.1(a).
16.5.2 Standing The Mark Adjacent to Behind Post
Where a Player is given or takes possession of the football from outside the Playing Surface beyond the Boundary Line within 2 metres of the behind post, the Player standing The Mark must be positioned 5 metres away from the Boundary Line.
16.5.3 Football Back in Play
The football is deemed to be back in play when any portion of it is on or above the Boundary Line.

I know this doesn't answer your question but I have never ever understood why a boundary throw in isn't called the moment the umpire calls play on and the ball is still out of play.

It makes no sense that they get extra time to get rid of it in a play on situation while being outside the field of play.


it's the same when a player is tackled over the boundary line but then is pinged for holding the ball because he didn't dispose of it while out of bounds.

hang on.. the moment the ball is out of play it should have been called as a throw in and the holding the ball decision becomes void.

It’s called HTB as they didn’t try to dispose of it within the field of play when they could have, otherwise it’s just a throw in if they are tackled over the line

 

[Michaels]

It would be a throw in, disadvantage to the team that had the free kick & a player getting dragged for an old fashioned spray

16.5 DISPOSAL – FROM OUT OF BOUNDS

16.5.1 When Permitted
(a) A Player who is awarded a Free Kick or a Mark may bring the
football into play from outside the Playing Surface beyond the Boundary Line provided that the Player moves in one direction whilst in the act of Kicking, Handballing or moving to cross the Boundary Line.
(b) If a Player who is awarded a Free Kick or a Mark either disposes
of or carries the football from outside the Playing Surface beyond the Boundary Line, the football shall be deemed to be Out of Bounds and the boundary Umpire shall throw in the football back into play at the spot where the original Free Kick or Mark took place if the Player:

(i) fails to bring the football into play; or
(ii) attempts to play on from outside the Playing Surface
beyond the Boundary Line; or
(iii) attempts to bring the football into play through the Goal
Line or Behind Line; or
(iv) does not bring the football into play in accordance with
Law 16.5.1(a).
16.5.2 Standing The Mark Adjacent to Behind Post
Where a Player is given or takes possession of the football from outside the Playing Surface beyond the Boundary Line within 2 metres of the behind post, the Player standing The Mark must be positioned 5 metres away from the Boundary Line.
16.5.3 Football Back in Play
The football is deemed to be back in play when any portion of it is on or above the Boundary Line.





It’s called HTB as they didn’t try to dispose of it within the field of play when they could have, otherwise it’s just a throw in if they are tackled over the line

but the prior opportunity should end the moment the ball crosses the line, it then becomes a throw in.

if the tackle happens 5m before the line and they have had time and the landing place is over the line as the call is being made, fair enough.

but often you see the tackle made 1-2m inside the play, they almost instantly go over the boundary line and the umpire continues to deem that prior opportunity, but it should have been a dead ball the second it crosses the line.

 

[hcd199]

The rule is this:

19.3 DISPOSAL FROM OUT OF BOUNDS
19.3.1 Bringing the Football Back Into Play
(a) A Player who is awarded a Mark or Free Kick and attempts to bring the football back into play or is called to play on from beyond the Boundary Line must bring the football back into play.
(b) If a Player breaches 19.3.1(a), including being tackled, the football shall be deemed Out of Bounds and a boundary throw-in shall result from the location of The Mark or Free Kick.
19.3.2 Moving in One Direction
(a) A Player who is awarded a Mark or Free Kick may bring the football back into play from outside the Playing Surface beyond the Boundary Line, provided that the Player moves in one direction off the line of The Mark in the process of re-entering the Playing Surface.
(b) If a Player breaches 19.3.2(a), the football shall be deemed Out of Bounds and a boundary throw-in shall result.

http://websites.sportstg.com/get_file.cgi?id=36630645

Based on that, the ball is deemed OOB only if a player moves in multiple directions before entering the playing surface (19.3.2(b)) or if they fail to "bring the football back into play" once play on is called. Presumably remaining motionless outside the boundary after a play on call counts as the latter, but exactly how long the player has after the call to bring the ball back in isn't clear (there's no "immediately" in the law, for example).

 

[hcd199]

but the prior opportunity should end the moment the ball crosses the line, it then becomes a throw in.

if the tackle happens 5m before the line and they have had time and the landing place is over the line as the call is being made, fair enough.

but often you see the tackle made 1-2m inside the play, they almost instantly go over the boundary line and the umpire continues to deem that prior opportunity, but it should have been a dead ball the second it crosses the line.

The prior opportunity rule requires that the player in possession dispose "immediately", so if any part of the tackle occurs inside the field of play, a holding the ball decision can be justified. Of course, whether it's a fair and consistent call when compared to how they interpret "immediately" around the ground is another question...

 

[D-N-R]

Ok, say, team A kicks the ball out on the full. Team B is awarded a free kick. Umpire locates the player (Bob) taking the kick to start behind the mark, outside the boundary. Bob sizes up his options. Umpire calls "move it on". Bob ponders. Umpire says "play on". Bob stands motionless with the ball (still outside the boundary). What happens? Is it a throw-in? I've seen situations where "play on" is called and Bob proceeds to kick the ball in, so a throw-in is not automatic.

(Extra credit if you can quote the rule that covers this.)

Nothing happens until he either disposes of the ball, is tackled (ball doesn't enter play) , or moves in multiple directions before crossing the line. Otherwise he can stand there.

Failing to bring the ball back into play means kicking or handballing the ball but the ball not crossing the line, or maybe dropping the ball or being tackled and not getting the ball accross the line.

Standing there is fine.