Tales from the Henley Beach Cafe: CROWS 2020 RUMOURS

[Mego Red]

To be fair, though - we sling a ludicrous amount of sh*t on Reid here. I think he's mostly done a good job in rebuilding our list post 2017, with some difficult decisions.

 

[hey shorty]

To be fair, though - we sling a ludicrous amount of sh*t on Reid here. I think he's mostly done a good job in rebuilding our list post 2017, with some difficult decisions.

He laid out some poor contracts, not all his fault but he is the main man.

 

[DJ75]

To be fair, though - we sling a ludicrous amount of sh*t on Reid here. I think he's mostly done a good job in rebuilding our list post 2017, with some difficult decisions.

5 years for Sloane isn't looking good....

 

[hey shorty]

5 years for Sloane isn't looking good....

Not now, at the time it was acceptable as a "good news" story we needed, and we figured he'd bounce back from injury. Has had one after another since though.

There's worse things

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

To be fair, though - we sling a ludicrous amount of sh*t on Reid here. I think he's mostly done a good job in rebuilding our list post 2017, with some difficult decisions.

Reid has done some good things, but also some ordinary ones... if you are analysing his performance without rose coloured glasses.

Has usually got good value for players traded out.

Gibbs deal was overs as most of us said at the time.

Questionable longer term contracts for some older players.

 

[Crow till I die]

Reid has done some good things, but also some ordinary ones... if you are analysing his performance without rose coloured glasses.

Has usually got good value for players traded out.

Gibbs deal was overs as most of us said at the time.

Questionable longer term contracts for some older players.

Re the Gibbs deal..I seem to recall that we made sure that deal was done before the Cameron deal where we extracted pick 12 from Brisbane for him. The fear was that if we had done that deal before the Gibbs one, then Carlton would have been demanding picks 10 & 12 for Gibbs - maybe Reid deserves some credit for orchestrating that sequence

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Re the Gibbs deal..I seem to recall that we made sure that deal was done before the Cameron deal where we extracted pick 12 from Brisbane for him. The fear was that if we had done that deal before the Gibbs one, then Carlton would have been demanding picks 10 & 12 for Gibbs - maybe Reid deserves some credit for orchestrating that sequence

It was still a poor deal regardless.

 

[Crow till I die]

It was still a poor deal regardless.

What were the options he had?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

What were the options he had?

Don't use 2x 1st rounders would be a start.

It's the past now... but let's not kid ourselves as we paid overs.

 

[Carmo]

People want the club to stand up for itself, so Binuk does, then he's a loser for doing it. The golden rule of bigfooty, never be happy about something.

 

[Crow till I die]

Don't use 2x 1st rounders would be a start.

It's the past now... but let's not kid ourselves as we paid overs.

It was a high price but if he is going to cop it in the neck for the deal, if he said no to 2 x 1sts then i think SOS says no deal and gibbs does not become a crow. The senior management were also very keen to make sure a deal was done so i am not sure reid can take all the blame

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

It was a high price but if he is going to cop it in the neck for the deal, if he said no to 2 x 1sts then i think SOS says no deal and gibbs does not become a crow. The senior management were also very keen to make sure a deal was done so i am not sure reid can take all the blame

Agree. The Gibbs trade, or 5 year deal to Sloane, come from above Reid’s head. He’s just instructed to get it done.

 

[DJ75]

Agree. The Gibbs trade, or 5 year deal to Sloane, come from above Reid’s head. He’s just instructed to get it done.

If either came from above his head, then those people need to be sacked immediately....oh wait, hang on...

 

[hey shorty]

People want the club to stand up for itself, so Binuk does, then he's a loser for doing it. The golden rule of bigfooty, never be happy about something.

We know it's a small minority who think he's a loser, those who themselves are such.

 

[hey shorty]

1970 making himself look a fool, it's been a while.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

If either came from above his head, then those people need to be sacked immediately....oh wait, hang on...

We should rehire them so we can sack them again

 

[GROTTO]

We should rehire them so we can sack them again

Crows are capable of this.

 

[Mego Red]

Don't use 2x 1st rounders would be a start.

It's the past now... but let's not kid ourselves as we paid overs.

See, that's the thing.

He gave up a very late first for a very early second in a better draft. Then traded that second for TWO seconds.

Im not going to argue Gibbs is a good deal, but I think we criticise it more than it deserves.

 

[Betts are off]

I just read that Cornes article where he was taking pot shots at the Crows for their proposed 5% salary cut (surprise surprise). But he did mention that he's been told that there are 2 Victorian clubs with 5 year deals on the table for Rory Laird

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Rory Laird

Age

27

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.4

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

12.5

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.3

4star

MG

367.5

5star

D

19.6

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

255.3

4star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.0

5star

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Now normally i'd dispel that as straight up Fireman Kane BS, but TBH this wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Pending it having a slither of truth to it, has anyone heard of which clubs may be circling?

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

The Sloane 5 year deal is not as bad as everyone makes out. He re-signed with us when the media/camp pile on was in full effect. He'll be around until 2023 to work with the squad and bring the young ones through, and then either retire, go elsewhere, or play year-by-year.

He is a heart and soul player, the sort you build a culture around (along with Tex, Talia, Smith, etc). Guys like Sholl, Pedlar would work harder at training, walk taller, and feel prouder at a club like ours knowing Sloane had their backs, rather than him chasing an extra year in Melbourne.

Even if his on-field output falls below expectations, his off-field contribution should not be under-stated.

 

[MRB37]

I just read that Cornes article where he was taking pot shots at the Crows for their proposed 5% salary cut (surprise surprise). But he did mention that he's been told that there are 2 Victorian clubs with 5 year deals on the table for Rory Laird.

Now normally i'd dispel that as straight up Fireman Kane BS, but TBH this wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Pending it having a slither of truth to it, has anyone heard of which clubs may be circling?

He's a FA, same with Crouch clubs know the way to get a FA out of a club is to give them a long deal. We won't get Laird on a 3 year deal, just have to hope he does us a favour and goes for a 4 year deal if he does stay.

 

[Crow_68]

He's a FA, same with Crouch clubs know the way to get a FA out of a club is to give them a long deal. We won't get Laird on a 3 year deal, just have to hope he does us a favour and goes for a 4 year deal if he does stay.

The drafting of Pedlar and Berry gives me the impression we are preparing for life after M Crouch.

Laird? Not so sure.

 

[Kenny Dee]

Not now, at the time it was acceptable as a "good news" story we needed, and we figured he'd bounce back from injury. Has had one after another since though.

There's worse things

It was never good news to sign him for that long, anyone with half a brain new that!

 

[Betts are off]

The drafting of Pedlar and Berry gives me the impression we are preparing for life after M Crouch.

Laird? Not so sure.

We would only get 1 compo pick even if both walked right?

 

[Golumless]

The drafting of Pedlar and Berry gives me the impression we are preparing for life after M Crouch.

Laird? Not so sure.

Also, our inside group was absolute garbage in 2020...

Mind you, it is quite possible we are planning for life without Matt Crouch, especially if Nicks wants a more flexible set up then what Matt could do (seeing he is only a midfielder). After all, it doesn't make that much sense to retain both Crouch and Laird after this year if both are primarily midfielders.