Team Mgmt. Talk about the makeup of our list - midfield balance, height profile, endurance runners

[Bunk Moreland]

Provided he’s fit, Sam Jacobs would be a good cheap option. Injured this year but aside from that he’s always been injury free.

Bellchambers / Jacobs / Draper / a rookie

The way Bellchambers moves is truly frightening for an AFL footballer, but he’s contracted so I guess we’ve got him.

Jacobs is a RFA and I doubt Adelaide would be standing in his way if he left.

Other free agents are Dawson Simpson and Jon Ceglar.

 

[Yoda_]

The balance of the list would benefit from a genuine tall utility, someone capable of going anywhere including the ruck and giving an honest contest.

I would be satisfied if we entered next year with Bellchambers and Draper battling for #1, someone like Clarke as the designated 3rd banana (I’m willing to explore options, I suspect we could get an upgrade on him for next to nothing) and then a ruck sized everywhere man who can do a little of everything. Not sure there is the room or the need for 4 specialist ruckmen on an AFL list at present.

I think this is what a number of are pinning our hopes on Bowman being. His NAB league numbers of last year were quite good and followed on enough in 2019 as a goalkicking ruckmen. Someone we can sit in the goal square and use sporadically in the ruck.

 

[Yoda_]

From what I understand, Frampton looks more like a forward who can chop out rather than a genuine ruck.

Darcy Cameron is one we should take a long, hard look at. His WAFL numbers indicated he was more than capable forward, his NEAFL numbers suggest he's more than capable in the ruck, and he's behind a few in the pecking order at Sydney.

I was a big advocate of DC. The fact Sydney went ahead and selected Knoll in the mid season draft and to nearly debut him ahead of DC is perhaps an indictment on his actual capabilities.

**preface this by saying I have not seen him play one minute of NEAFL football or what role/position he does for the Swans reserves**

 

[Yoda_]

Once you sign Draper to a four year contract then he is the understudy to Bellchambers with a view to being number one ruck in twelve months - So the 18/19 year old is the third or fourth option depending on what happens to Z.Clarke - Posters bemoan the fact that EFC is risk averse to playing younger or inexperienced players but yet throw up names of more senior rucks with varying levels of ability - Dont give the match committee a chance to take a short cut.

ICYMI - Sam Draper did his knee and is likely to miss half of 2020. A guy who could play seniors if TBC goes down long term is paramount. As BrunoV mentioned, we either go an aging warrior on a budget or a guy in a similar position to Draper.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

If we’re lucky Draper will debut next year. Probably shouldn’t expect much more than that.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Provided he’s fit, Sam Jacobs would be a good cheap option. Injured this year but aside from that he’s always been injury free.

Bellchambers / Jacobs / Draper / a rookie

The way Bellchambers moves is truly frightening for an AFL footballer, but he’s contracted so I guess we’ve got him.

Jacobs is a RFA and I doubt Adelaide would be standing in his way if he left.

Other free agents are Dawson Simpson and Jon Ceglar.

What sort of salary would Jacobs command?

 

[owen87]

Jacobs as a 1-2 year option who’s willing to play VFL and take a coaching / mentoring role would be a solid citizen. Seems to have a lot of respect around the place in Adelaide.

Otherwise someone like Nicholls at GCS should come cheap and is a much better chance of playing senior games behind Bellchambers and Draper than behind Witts and GC generally refusing to play him - is he even still on their list actually? I didn’t think he was that terrible when I’ve seen him play but maybe I’m wrong.

 

[BrunoV]

Parish?

What about him?

 

[DapperJong]

What about him?

He’s just trolling you mate

 

[BrunoV]

Once you sign Draper to a four year contract then he is the understudy to Bellchambers with a view to being number one ruck in twelve months - So the 18/19 year old is the third or fourth option depending on what happens to Z.Clarke - Posters bemoan the fact that EFC is risk averse to playing younger or inexperienced players but yet throw up names of more senior rucks with varying levels of ability - Dont give the match committee a chance to take a short cut.

Agree with the sentiment about selection but it doesnt apply to 18-19 yo ruckmen with the number 2 on the way back from a knee reco and maybe not available until midyearish.

I also think we want to settle on the number 2 for 2021. I've been banging on about Meek. I like the look of him, he's a big boy but coordinated and seems to be quite mobile.

Even English, as good as he is going to be, has been a liability in games as a 3rd year player.

 

[BrunoV]

He’s just trolling you mate

Well played Seb78.

 

[Seb78]

What about him?

Ummm he's blonde?

 

[Mikevk123]

List changes
Retire: Mark Baguley, David Myers, Luke Lavender.
Delist: Ben McNeice, Zac Clarke, Jake Long, Matt Dea, Kobe Mutch(Rookie List)
Trade: Orazio Fantasia(Wants Back to SA), Kyle Langford, David Zaharakis.

 

[eth-dog]

I was a big advocate of DC. The fact Sydney went ahead and selected Knoll in the mid season draft and to nearly debut him ahead of DC is perhaps an indictment on his actual capabilities.

**preface this by saying I have not seen him play one minute of NEAFL football or what role/position he does for the Swans reserves**

Cameron went down injured either the NEAFL round before or after the MSD and hasn't played since

 

[Xavier Menzies]

I hear Myers will be retained ffs
Martin & Jacobs in.

I also heard Archie smiths name do the rounds..


We won't be bringing in much

 

[Yoda_]

I hear Myers will be retained ffs
Martin & Jacobs in.

I also heard Archie smiths name do the rounds..


We won't be bringing in much

Surely you’re having a life re Myers


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[Zach Package]

Myers is quite clearly at the stage now where he’s comfortable enough with being depth anyway so as long as his next contract reflects that I’m happy enough for him to stay, could even be an option to place him on the rookie list next year.

Ideally you’d be looking around for someone with finals experience with a little bit more versatility in his game to fill that slot though.

 

[BrunoV]

Martin confounds me.

It would signal complete and utter denial about the list and the brand.

We're not bringing him here and paying him to work his way through the twos.

So we're really just adding one more weak player in the way of Ridley, Laverde and Begley.

I wonder how that will hold up against the Dogs next year.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Myers is quite clearly at the stage now where he’s comfortable enough with being depth anyway so as long as his next contract reflects that I’m happy enough for him to stay, could even be an option to place him on the rookie list next year.

Ideally you’d be looking around for someone with finals experience with a little bit more versatility in his game to fill that slot though.

Except he’s not depth because when he is required to come into the seniors, he offers nothing.

The bloke basically retired himself publicly mid-season. Keeping him on the list would be high farce.

So we’ll probably do it.

 

[Zach Package]

Except he’s not depth because when he is required to come into the seniors, he offers nothing.

The bloke basically retired himself publicly mid-season. Keeping him on the list would be high farce.

So we’ll probably do it.

I’m not sure he retired himself more than he just showed a modicum of self awareness about where we’re at and where he’s at.

Need more of that around the club, not less

 

[eth-dog]

Out of Contract players:

3+ years: Mason Redman, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
2 years: Aaron Francis, Dylan Clarke, Matt Guelfi
1 year: Mitch Brown, Tom Jok, Trent Mynott, Will Snelling

Trade:

Michael Hartley + pick ~60 for pick ~45 (Western Bulldogs)
Jayden Laverde for a pick between 30 and 40 hopefully (unlikely)
Kyle Langford for a pick between 20 and 30 hopefully (unlikely)
David Zaharakis for a packet of chips
Pick ~60 (we have two) for Archie Smith
Picks 25 and 35 for pick 17 (1278 points for 1022) to GC (Brisbane's pick. Still unlikely though.)

Delist:

Mark Baguley, Zachary Clarke, David Myers, Jordan Houlahan, Jake Long, Ben McNiece, Matthew Dea

Leaves us with 33 on the senior list (Draper promotion) and 3 on the Cat A list, so a minimum of 5 national draftees/DFA's, maximum of 7 with between 1 and 3 Cat A rookie listed players

Draft (eDPS please identify names to what type if I don't know):

Pick 17 (Bris): Big bodied inside midfielder
Pick 30 (Ours): Jay Rantall (184 cm/82 kg inside midfielder, GWV Rebels)
Pick 31 (GWS): Sam de Koning (200/85 key defender, Dandenong Stingrays)
Pick 45 (Dogs): Joshua Shute (187/73 outside midfielder, Sturt)
Pick 48 (Ours): Quick half back

RD 12: Riley Bowman (198/84 forward/ruck, Sandringham Dragons)
RD 30: Nino Lazzaro (190/83 outside utility, Essendon VFL)
RD 48: Mason Fletcher (200/83 key position utility, Calder Cannons)

Cat B: Irish lad and Adam Tipungwuti

Best 22:

FB: Martin Gleeson - Cale Hooker - Michael Hurley
HB: Conor McKenna - Patrick Ambrose - Adam Saad
MF: Jordan Ridley - Dylan Clarke - Mason Redman
HF: Orazio Fantasia - Joe Daniher - Devon Smith
FF: Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti - Shaun McKernan - Jake Stringer
OB: Tom Bellchambers - Dylan Shiel - Zachary Merrett
IC: Andrew McGrath - Darcy Parish - Aaron Francis - Dyson Heppell

Reserves:

FB: Mason Fletcher - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher - Irish lad
HB: Nino Lazzaro - Sam de Koning - Pick 48
MF: Kobe Mutch - Will Snelling - Brayden Ham
HF: Adam Tipungwuti - Mitchell Brown - Josh Begley
FF: Irving Mosquito- James Stewart - Noah Gown
OB: Archie Smith - Matt Guelfi - Trent Mynott

IC: Tom Jok - Pick 17 - Jay Rantall - Joshua Shute
IC: Sam Draper - Riley Bowman - Aaron Heppell - Danny Younan
23P: <insert new payer here>

 

[jmoo wan]

yay! fantastical trade scenarios happening already!

 

[andleanback]

List changes
Retire: Mark Baguley, David Myers, Luke Lavender.
Delist: Ben McNeice, Zac Clarke, Jake Long, Matt Dea, Kobe Mutch(Rookie List)
Trade: Orazio Fantasia(Wants Back to SA), Kyle Langford, David Zaharakis.

Kobe is contracted to next year I’m pretty sure. I’d love to see him get a full season in like redman has done this year, I think he can be the wingman we are crying out for

 

[ILikeCheese]

It’d be nice if Riley Bowman drops to the Rookie draft but Paul Cousins seems to think there’s a bit of interest from other clubs surrounding him.
“A club may need to use a reasonable pick to get him in the draft”.
Even more baffling we didn’t take a punt mid season given he was a free hit!


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[Yoda_]

It’d be nice if Riley Bowman drops to the Rookie draft but Paul Cousins seems to think there’s a bit of interest from other clubs surrounding him.
“A club may need to use a reasonable pick to get him in the draft”.
Even more baffling we didn’t take a punt mid season given he was a free hit!


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To be fair, he had only played 1 game 3 days before the mid season draft and was more than likely not even on our (mid seaso ndraft) radar at that point in time.