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[DERO]

Bunk Moreland 15 minutes ago in the Murdoch press:

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[Bunk Moreland]

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The communication out of the club is just woeful. They don't talk about football at all and it's our core business. I know COVID has made things harder but other clubs manage. Either they tell Worsfold to say absolutely nothing, or it's an obvious shortcoming of his and it needs to be filled by somebody else. If you've got members you have to bring them along with you on the journey or it just leads to trouble.

 

[Mr_McBoogerBalls]

A message from the coach, starring John Worsfold:

Reporter: What's your take on todays loss, Woosh?
Worsfold: Learnings.

Thanks for watching and tune into our next post match loss, to get another insightful update from the coach.

 

[Lore]

Bunk Moreland 15 minutes ago in the Murdoch press:

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Was it Howard Moon who mentioned the media want to grill Rutten directly and Worsfold is protecting him? Don't remember which thread it was in but looks pretty spot on from that headline.

 

[madrigal]

They should hire someone to comment and keep us all up to date on Bigfooty. No doubts they would receive invaluable advice on how to fix the team as well. Maybe we could vote for the ins and outs.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Was it Howard Moon who mentioned the media want to grill Rutten directly and Worsfold is protecting him? Don't remember which thread it was in but looks pretty spot on from that headline.

I saw someone in the media say pretty much that when the new structure was announced. Rutten would be the coach but Woosha would take all the heat as we get used to the new gameplan.

Personally I'm not too fussed about the way we're playing. It really does take sides a couple of years for a new style of play to become instinctive enough that it works under pressure in games. If we still look like trash in 2022 then I'd be starting to ask some serious questions but I'm happy to give him space to do what he needs to do for this year and next. The list is the bigger issue imo.

 

[Old Campaigner]

They should hire someone to comment and keep us all up to date on Bigfooty. No doubts they would receive invaluable advice on how to fix the team as well. Maybe we could vote for the ins and outs.

I thought they did have a club employee posting here for a while. They could say much and iirc they got hounded out lol

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Was it Howard Moon who mentioned the media want to grill Rutten directly and Worsfold is protecting him? Don't remember which thread it was in but looks pretty spot on from that headline.

As these woeful performances stack up it’s only going to get worse.

The club should’ve been out in front of this long ago, explaining what’s going on with adjustments to our game plan etc. Make a point of it, not a few vague references from Worsfold.

Where’s the double page spread with an in-depth Q&A with a friendly journalist?
It’s media freaking management 101.

 

[Yoda_]

This is true. Publicly criticising a player would see you dumped upon from a great height by the media, and you'd probably end up forced to resign. I don't think the media particularly care, it's just that they crave content and will make a mountain out of a molehill at every opportunity

It’s sad and pathetic.

Every game in this football frenzy has been about something other than the game/result bar a very small
Handful (port v rich being one standout).

Everything else is an apocalypse.

We were pathetic and the media rightly know this but gee whiz the Saints have been good at what they’re doing. Taking everything away, the media go down the sad and end of the world story instead of how well the Saints player.

Collingwood losing? It’s about there injuries. Adelaide losing? Forget the Dogs are a genuine smoky to win it all and instead focus on the 0 - 12 Crows. Hawks just won there 7th in a row but instead the major talking point is a players injury.
I get that the product (game) is not the be all and end all but let’s start focusing on that again.


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[Howard Moon]

Was it Howard Moon who mentioned the media want to grill Rutten directly and Worsfold is protecting him? Don't remember which thread it was in but looks pretty spot on from that headline.

In the Dreamtime thread I think!

 

[Yoda_]

Pressers are different because they’re run by the media who are just searching for clickbait - that’s their job.

Id like to just see our coaches talking footy for five minutes, a bit more relaxed and in a bit more detail.

The media’s job is to report facts. They twist what they like to get what they’re looking for. It’s pathetic


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[Yoda_]

In the Dreamtime thread I think!

It’s funny that the media are gunning for Wooshas head to allow Rutten a free run at coaching the side.

Hasn’t Woosha been doing that the last two months? Think the only thing Woosha has kept fat on is doing the oressers


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[DERO]

The media’s job is to report facts. They twist what they like to get what they’re looking for. It’s pathetic


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It is the media's job to make money.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

The media’s job is to report facts. They twist what they like to get what they’re looking for. It’s pathetic


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It’s not at all. That’s a long outdated, romantic view. Their job is to get clicks. That’s all it is. Unless it’s the ABC.

 

[Howard Moon]

It’s funny that the media are gunning for Wooshas head to allow Rutten a free run at coaching the side.

Hasn’t Woosha been doing that the last two months? Think the only thing Woosha has kept fat on is doing the oressers


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Woosh is a wily old veteran with nothing to lose now. He can pretty much tell them to gagf each week and they know it.... It's killing them that they can't get to the vulnerable cub because he's being protected by the Silverback

Let's see how this plays out, my bet will be their next move is a sneaky reverse play where they suggest he dosent have the capacity to front the media, at which point his pride will bring him out

 

[eth-dog]

I know it's a minor thing but in the fact Cian McBride was returning to the scratch matches this week. The quote was:

"It was his first game back from injury, so he played just 20 minutes, got through and pulled up well. He'll be looking to play 40 to 60 minutes in the next game, so overall it was a good result for Cian."

Like seriously, zero information that he was injured for what, 6 weeks Lore? Why hide that? What benefit does it give? It's not as if teams will be breathing a sigh of relief that a Category B rookie is injured and may miss a couple of scratch matches?

 

[Yoda_]

It is the media's job to make money.

It’s the media’s job to report on the product not guess and hypothesise


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[Yoda_]

It’s not at all. That’s a long outdated, romantic view. Their job is to get clicks. That’s all it is. Unless it’s the ABC.

No, that’s today’s society and the sad way we are all wired now.


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[DERO]

It’s the media’s job to report on the product not guess and hypothesise


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I think you’ll find that they make their money from advertising rather than subscriptions mate.

 

[Old Campaigner]

No, that’s today’s society and the sad way we are all wired now.


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Welcome to capitalism, enjoy your stay

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

"John, what did you think of the performance in general today?"

"I wasn't across it"

 

[Lore]

I know it's a minor thing but in the fact Cian McBride was returning to the scratch matches this week. The quote was:

"It was his first game back from injury, so he played just 20 minutes, got through and pulled up well. He'll be looking to play 40 to 60 minutes in the next game, so overall it was a good result for Cian."

Like seriously, zero information that he was injured for what, 6 weeks Lore? Why hide that? What benefit does it give? It's not as if teams will be breathing a sigh of relief that a Category B rookie is injured and may miss a couple of scratch matches?

Last played Round 6 scratch, 11th July. Since then he's missed the scratches in rounds 7, 9 and 10. There was no scratch in 8 (senior team in Adelaide) or 11 (senior game was mid-week).

I don't know exactly who played for us in the scratch last weekend, but it sounds like he himself did at least. Where's the quote from?

So 5 weeks at most, if he got injured during the R6 scratch and not later that week.

They don't always tell us about injuries to players whose availability at senior level doesn't really matter (e.g. late draft picks in their first year). It's one of my pet peeves, because the only clue is that they stop being named at either level without explanation.

 

[eth-dog]

Last played Round 6 scratch, 11th July. Since then he's missed the scratches in rounds 7, 9 and 10. There was no scratch in 8 (senior team in Adelaide) or 11 (senior game was mid-week).

I don't know exactly who played for us in the scratch last weekend, but it sounds like he himself did at least. Where's the quote from?

So 5 weeks at most, if he got injured during the R6 scratch and not later that week.

They don't always tell us about injuries to players whose availability at senior level doesn't really matter (e.g. late draft picks in their first year). It's one of my pet peeves, because the only clue is that they stop being named at either level without explanation.

I'll put it in the scratchy thread when I stop getting notifications.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

No, that’s today’s society and the sad way we are all wired now.


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No it’s not. It’s not society or the way we’re wired - it’s simply technological and economic.

Commercial news has never been a charity. But the model how totally changed. Previously revenue came not from which articles people read, but from classifieds and advertising. So there wasn’t an editorial demand on individual stories.

Now every individual story is on its own page and the only way it produces revenue is if somebody clicks on it. Hence the entire focus of “news” organisations is clicks.

 

[Yoda_]

No it’s not. It’s not society or the way we’re wired - it’s simply technological and economic.

Commercial news has never been a charity. But the model how totally changed. Previously revenue came not from which articles people read, but from classifieds and advertising. So there wasn’t an editorial demand on individual stories.

Now every individual story is on its own page and the only way it produces revenue is if somebody clicks on it. Hence the entire focus of “news” organisations is clicks.

I’m going to agree to disagree because feel a few people are missing my point I’m struggling to get across.

The same media accredited by the product are allowed to make up and focus not on the main product. It’s sad but that’s capitalism as someone else suggested


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