Unsolved Taman Shud Case

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I do think the actual hair samples are a deal breaker for the brown haired man in the photo.

What I believe is his identity was known to those higher up that the Adelaide police. That either his identity or what he was doing around Adelaide at the time was such a huge secret that is still being kept today.

I don't think it's a co-incidence that ASIO was formed a few months later in March 1949 and this wasn't isolated spying but an important culmination or escalation so the head of British Intelligence and CIA were summoned to Australia.

Initially ASIO was to protect from foreign spying, sabotage and espionage and the big ass secret is either his identity or whatever spying or sabotage he may have been involved in. This also suggests he was foreign and either Nazi German or Russian would have been still enemies of Australia at the time.

ASIO: The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation is Australia's national security agency responsible for the protection of the country and its citizens from espionage, sabotage, acts of foreign interference, politically motivated violence, attacks on the Australian defence system, and terrorism.
What about the mystery man in the picture that wasn't Somerton Man? Did they keep him on hand for when a spy that looked like his identical twin came along and was murdered? No-one knew who he was? Where did he come from? If it's not SM it's just as big a mystery.

BTW. I also believe SM could have been a spy. It's not like there have never been any, even murdered ones, in Australia.
 

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The conspirator in me says his state of mind may have been caused by reading a newspaper account of the death of the Somerton Man and a description of what was found in his pockets.
But didn't she say he checked out on the 30th November? Then was found the next morning? No chance to read the papers ;)

Appreciate your knowledge Pete. Did Ina report her sighting immediately or did she wait for years until she gave that news paper interview?
 

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What about the mystery man in the picture that wasn't Somerton Man? Did they keep him on hand for when a spy that looked like his identical twin came along and was murdered? No-one knew who he was? Where did he come from? If it's not SM it's just as big a mystery.

BTW. I also believe SM could have been a spy. It's not like there have never been any, even murdered ones, in Australia.
Photography is a funny thing. Especially in the days before automatic exposures. The f stop, shutter speed, lighting, the type of film, and how it's developed all make huge differences to the final photograph. It could well produce vastly different images of the same subject. The black and white photos I suspect were over exposed or over developed. The colour photos give a vastly better rendition of what Somerton Man might of looked like.

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What about the mystery man in the picture that wasn't Somerton Man? Did they keep him on hand for when a spy that looked like his identical twin came along and was murdered? No-one knew who he was? Where did he come from? If it's not SM it's just as big a mystery.

BTW. I also believe SM could have been a spy. It's not like there have never been any, even murdered ones, in Australia.
I don't think they look anything alike or are physically compatible as the person in the photo doesn't have broad shoulders. But I believe that Mr Walsh had an accident just before SM was discovered and word came from higher authorities that SM's identity was not to be disclosed, so someone decided to photograph his face.

A photo was taken of Mr Walsh, the photographer was very vague in his Inquest statement that he was told to take a photo of a person and he was told this person was found on the beach at Somerton. Mr Walsh with his hair dyed ginger (although that's not very successful on brown haired people) and his facial features touched up was said to be SM.

I don't think you can fake the reaction the widow that he'd boarded with for years had when she saw his body or Jessica's reaction to the bust she saw, even though the photograph had been in circulation for months.
 

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Photography is a funny thing. Especially in the days before automatic exposures. The f stop, shutter speed, lighting, the type of film, and how it's developed all make huge differences to the final photograph. It could well produce vastly different images of the same subject. The black and white photos I suspect were over exposed or over developed. The colour photos give a vastly better rendition of what Somerton Man might of looked like.

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The colour impressions are from artists drawings of what SM may look like using the bust made of him.
 

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But didn't she say he checked out on the 30th November? Then was found the next morning? No chance to read the papers ;)
Harvey wasn’t at all sure of the dates, and one of the reasons Feltus dismissed her was because she waited years before giving the interview, however, he accepted an equally late statement of the man seen carrying a man along the beach ...

Appreciate your knowledge Pete. Did Ina report her sighting immediately or did she wait for years until she gave that news paper interview?
That she did, she also said he looked very tired on the last day she saw or spoke to him, 'distraught' was the word she used.
The conspirator in me says his state of mind may have been caused by a newspaper account of the death of the Somerton Man and a description of what was found in his pockets.
 

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Record at NAA of a Thomas Ambrose Keane of 19 Abington St, South Brisbane opened in 1945 is not available due to National Security concerns



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A couple of pages were released of Thomas Keane's ASIO file. It shows that he was a member of the Eureka Youth League when the file was opened in 1945 by the Commonwealth Investigation Branch. It also shows that someone requested a report on his activities and whereabouts in 1950, however who and why are redacted out. It also shows that the file was closed in 1953, however it appears that the reason for the file being closed is redacted. There's only enough room in the blacked out area to write something like "Found Deceased" or such like.
What is available doesn't say how old he is, or what sort of position he held in the EYL.
The reasons that are stated for not releasing the rest of the file are much more interesting though.


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Unfortunately all the Queensland files on the Eureka youth League from 1942 up-to 1949 have been restricted due to:
33(1)(a) - would damage Australia's security, defence or international relations;
33(1)(d) - would be a breach of confidence;
33(1)(g) - would unreasonably disclose information about the personal affairs of a person;




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A search of Trove using "19 Abingdon st" limiting the search to Newspapers, and the state to Queensland produces interesting results.
There's a lot of stuff being sold off in the 40's (no names mentioned). Then an advert in 1950 which gives the name "Bryce" as the seller. Did the property change hands? Was it a rental? A new tenant in 1950, hence the difference in adverts? Where did Thomas Ambrose Keane go?

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PeteD, I remember somebody mentioning that restricted file some years ago, probably Byron Deveson, but didn't have any copies of the file.. this is worth a hot dig, davo, we need to know when he was born ... I'll see if I can beat you to it starting from scratch.
I've had no luck finding out anymore on the Thomas Ambrose Keane of 19 Abingdon St South Brisbane, who's ASIO file is mostly restricted. No date of birth. No death notices. No photograph. No mention in stories of the Eureka Youth League.
Nada Zip. It's like he's been wiped off the face of the earth, or ever existed.

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Thanks for your work, petedavo .... how close do you think Ambrose is to the age of the Somerton Man?
Very few clues to his age. The few pages released in his ASIO file just say EYL member. Doesn't say whether he was an organiser or music/dance coach, or just an ordinary member. The fact that it's still embargoed suggests the former rather than the later, and someone of some importance. The classified adverts in newspapers suggests someone at his address was reselling prams from the address, about the same time that Robin Thompson was born.
Since coming across his file, I've been going down a rabbit warren of archives.
I've had to work backwards to try and work out who this Thomas Ambrose Keane might actually be, if he is the deceased found at Somerton Beach.
So far I'm searching Soviet Agents that had disappeared, but had actually defected without the Soviets becoming aware. One of the intriguing possibilities that piqued my immediate interest was one I posted the MI5 file of Walter Krivitsky information on Aaron Ehrenlieb from the UK Archive yesterday. Walter was a Soviet defector who passed himself off under different identities and different nationalities. What piqued my interest was his travels to Argentina, and other countries where the Dutch Diplomat's daughter, Tania Teppema who became Richard Hemblys-Scales wife also frequented in travels with her father Peter Teppema.
Could Peter Teppema of befriended a Soviet Agent and convinced him to defect with a guarantee to continued protection?
It all made me wonder if this Thomas Ambrose Keane was a new identity of a Soviet agent that defected, and the fact that he defected rather than disappeared was being hidden from the Soviets.
Was he being hidden in Australia under an agreement between Teppema and Hemblys-Scales for the information on the networks that he created and a Verona code pad or two?

Did he almost bugger up the fact that MI5 had compromised Soviet networks and codes by going on a private errand to Adelaide and either getting himself killed, or was stopped from exposing the whole shooting match a few doors from where he was going by lethal force? If Keane was Ehrenlieb, he was 53 years old in 1948.
His UK file abruptly ends in 1949.

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Very few clues to his age. The few pages released in his ASIO file just say EYL member. Doesn't say whether he was an organiser or music/dance coach, or just an ordinary member. The fact that it's still embargoed suggests the former rather than the later, and someone of some importance. The classified adverts in newspapers suggests someone at his address was reselling prams from the address, about the same time that Robin Thompson was born.
Since coming across his file, I've been going down a rabbit warren of archives.
I've had to work backwards to try and work out who this Thomas Ambrose Keane might actually be, if he is the deceased found at Somerton Beach.
So far I'm searching Soviet Agents that had disappeared, but had actually defected without the Soviets becoming aware. One of the intriguing possibilities that piqued my immediate interest was one I posted the MI5 file of Walter Krivitsky information on Aaron Ehrenlieb from the UK Archive yesterday. Walter was a Soviet defector who passed himself off under different identities and different nationalities. What piqued my interest was his travels to Argentina, and other countries where the Dutch Diplomat's daughter, Tania Teppema who became Richard Hemblys-Scales wife also frequented in travels with her father Peter Teppema.
Could Peter Teppema of befriended a Soviet Agent and convinced him to defect with a guarantee to continued protection?
It all made me wonder if this Thomas Ambrose Keane was a new identity of a Soviet agent that defected, and the fact that he defected rather than disappeared was being hidden from the Soviets.
Was he being hidden in Australia under an agreement between Teppema and Hemblys-Scales for the information on the networks that he created and a Verona code pad or two?

Did he almost bugger up the fact that MI5 had compromised Soviet networks and codes by going on a private errand to Adelaide and either getting himself killed, or was stopped from exposing the whole shooting match a few doors from where he was going by lethal force? If Keane was Ehrenlieb, he was 53 years old in 1948.
His UK file abruptly ends in 1949.

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The same Hemblys-Scales who accompanied Roger Hollis to Australia in 1948 and who assisted in setting up ASIO before relocating to the Middle East under the governorship of Kim Philby ...
 

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The same Hemblys-Scales who accompanied Roger Hollis to Australia in 1948 and who assisted in setting up ASIO before relocating to the Middle East under the governorship of Kim Philby ...
Very same.
I think he died in Argentina.

"Any fool can commit a murder, but it takes an artist to commit a good natural death"

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Very same.
I think he died in Argentina.

"Any fool can commit a murder, but it takes an artist to commit a good natural death"

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So you could safely assume that anything Hemblys-Scales learnt about hostile agents identified by Australian Intelligence services would have been told to the hostile agent’s masters, via Philby.
 

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So you could safely assume that anything Hemblys-Scales learnt about hostile agents identified by Australian Intelligence services would have been told to the hostile agent’s masters, via Philby.
Yes.
Konstantin Volkov had the goods on Philby, Burgess & McLean and he was only asking for £27,500 and a promise of political asylum to give up the names.
It's just too bad that the Embassy in Turkey didn't know this when they asked for an MI5 to come and do the deal.

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Robert Victor Hemblys-Scales went to Christ’s College, Cambridge from which he graduated with honours in Classics and Philosophy. http://heatholdboys.org.uk/obits/Hemblys-Scales_R.html
One of the books Hemblys-Scales studied in his Classics course at Cambridge, was a translation of Iranian poetry by a former student of Trinity College, Cambridge, Edward FitzGerald, called » Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám
Hemblys-Scales would of known each edition of Fitzgerald's translations, like the back of his hand.


"MI5 and MI6 cover-up of Cambridge spy ring laid bare in archive papers" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/23/mi5-mi6-coverup-cambridge-spy-ring-archive-papers
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Robert Victor Hemblys-Scales went to Christ’s College, Cambridge from which he graduated with honours in Classics and Philosophy. http://heatholdboys.org.uk/obits/Hemblys-Scales_R.html
One of the books Hemblys-Scales studied in his Classics course at Cambridge, was a translation of Iranian poetry by a former student of Trinity College, Cambridge, Edward FitzGerald, called » Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám
Hemblys-Scales would of known each edition of Fitzgerald's translations, like the back of his hand.

"MI5 and MI6 cover-up of Cambridge spy ring laid bare in archive papers" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/23/mi5-mi6-coverup-cambridge-spy-ring-archive-papers
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I believe (from Gary Feltus?) that SM's Rubaiyat was a Whitcome and Tomes (Christchurch) pocket edition that no one has been able to find another copy of, Marshall's Methuan was 7th edition (even though only 5 were printed), and Alf Boxall had a Collins edition that was more common.

Detective Leonard Brown was given the task of finding a Rubaiyat that matched the paper found with Tamam Shud written on it.

He said he found an identical copy in an Adelaide bookshop that was made of the same paper and had the same font, but didn't have the words Tamam Shud ripped out. This was a Collins edition.

However wasn't SM's a Whitcome and Tomes edition? Also from another post a made pages back the Tamam Shud font didn't match any of the font in the verses, when the copy that Shelly showed the verses and Tamam matched exactly.

Also the paper that Tamam Shud is written on which Brown describes in great detail, is not described like or doesn't look like the same as the plain paper in the small pocketbook copy they said SM had.

Tamam Shud font also doesn't match the font Alf Boxall's Collin's edition copy (as seen in the Littlemore video).

As Boxall's Collins ed is very different form SM's copy why does Brown say he found an identical Collin's copy in the Adelaide bookshop?

Is it possible Brown bought the Adelaide Collins edition and Tamam Shud is from that?

Was something else written on the Tamam Shud that was ripped out of SM's copy that we're not to know about?


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Parking this here as it names most of the dancers, musicians, management and backstage members of the Ballet Russe tour of Australia and NZ in 1938/39. Otis not in photo and we know he met Anton Dolin in Lyttleton when they arrived by boat.

There are only 6 un named people in the photo. Look at the back row, 10th from left for possible SM. If he was spying and had some connection to ballet, touring would be a good cover. He was wearing that American coat when found, that he could have only got in America or if someone from there (Otis?) gave it to him.

"The Covent Garden Russian Ballet Company arrived in Auckland by boat from Australia on 1 February. After performing in Auckland and Palmerston North they travelled to Wellington by train and opened there on 18 February. A cropped version of the photograph first appeared in the newspaper 'The Dominion' (Wellington) on 24 February, 1939. Photograph includes 74 people including dancers, members of the tour's management and backstage team, and musicians from the orchestra. It does not include the entire company as several male dancers who were in the company are not included"--Information from acquisitions documentation.

Source of AcquisitionDonated by Brigitte Kelly (stage name, Maria Sanina) 2009.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/35333906?q&versionId=43935406

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Back row L to R: Borislav Runanine, Lorand Andahazay, Alberto Alonso, unknown, Medric Fraillon (musician), unknown, Jack Wittmer (musician), four males unknown, Serge Bousloff, Vsevolod Grigoriev (management), Serge Ismailoff, unknown, Marian Ladre, Georges Georghieff (production staff), Oleg Tupine, Boris Belsky, Valentin Zeglovsky, unknown, Edouard Sobiechevsky, Narcisse Matouchak, Madame Tchinerova (wardrobe), Algeranoff, Valery Shaievsky, Irina Kosmovska, Helene Wolksa, Haydn Beck (musician), Gabriel Joffe. Middle row L to R: Olga Larosse (wardrobe), Dimitri Rostov, Kira Strakhova, Vera Nelidova, Lubov Tchernicheva, Yura Lazofsky, Ana Roje, Edouard Borovansky, Dot Mendoza (musician), Serge Grigoriev (Regisseur general), Galina Razoumova, Anton Dolin, Tamara Grigorieva, Victor Dandre (management), Tatiana Riabouchinska, Michel Fokine (choreographer), Irina Baronova, German Sevastianov (management), Anna Volkova, Antal Dorati (conductor), Tamara Tchinarova, Raissa Kouznetsova, Kira Abricossova, Irina Vassilieva, Irina Bondireva, Wanda Grossen, Lisa Serova, Lara Obidenna. Front row L to R: Bill Honey (musician), Sono Osato, Natasha Sobinova, Alexandra Denisova, Lina Lerina, Ludmilla Lvova, Maria Sanina, Lelia Roussova, Arthur Leeman (musician).

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Anyone got a copy of
Malinowski: Odyssey of an Anthropologist, 1884-1920
By Michael W. Young
2004
Yale University Press

If so can you read back from page 459 and let me know what this "Clan" was? And in particular it's membership?

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