Tambling = Wasted Draft Pick

[tigerT]

I actually kinda liked tamblings game today. He was busy just lacked some polish at times, big deal. For mine he showed glimpses of what he can and will do as a midfielder and that is, be capable of winning his own ball and bursting away with it. He reads the game beautifully and doesnt struggle to find it in the guts. Still lacks some confidence but soon he'll be goaling on the run instead of fluffing them and once that happens look out, seems to be able to get himself into goal scoring positions naturally coming from midfield.

 

[captain blood 17]

Why do Richmond think that flashy players are going to win them a Premiership, instead of getting Pavlich we got Fiora, instead of getting Buddy Franklin we got Tambling. Solid tough midfielders and big tall forwards win Premierships, no team of flashy mid sized show pony's have ever or will ever win a premiership.

For a number 4 draft pick you have to be have better skills and more determination than Tambling shows, I know its only his 3rd year but he has not shown anything to suggest that he will even be half as good as Deledio.

Just because you are a star at under-18 does not translate in being able to cut it in the AFL. These small quick aboriginal players like Tambling, JON, Krakour do not play a full game of football and are unreliable when you need regularly need a hard midfielder or a small crumber to kick 3-4 goals a game.

For all our years of on field misery the only worthwhile high draft pick we ever got is Deledio.

mate, buddy franklin went before the senior players for 'indescretions' 8 times last year (reported on triple m). tambling was not our worst player yesterday. in fact he provided some good quick movement of the footy. how can you bag guys like jon when they have only played a couple of games? it's one game of footy in feb. as much as we got slammed, there were some positives. when tuck is your ruck, what chance have you really got of mid field dominance? every club is littered with crap draft picks. pointless thread.

 

[lids2004roar]

mate, buddy franklin went before the senior players for 'indescretions' 8 times last year (reported on triple m). .

Can you elaborate on this? Do you mean due to trouble making he has had to answer to the team?

 

[Booms]

yep Buddy looked like a star last night.....so what??!?! How high did we take Andrew Raines in the draft?? Every other club wouldve been spewing last yr...is that how it works?? What a joke.... go watch Tamblings first wizard cup match...he was an excitement machine...he had all the confidence in the world...took a screamer kicked a cpl of goals.....just wait till this kid gets some serious time in the middle and his confidence gets going. He will put all this talk to shame....bursting out of the middle kicking goals on the run.....ppl have no idea.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

Ceriouss = wasted bigfooty account

 

[SHIGHT BLOKE]

Come on mate, be fair. Their Richmond Supporters......its like shooting fish in a barrell!!!!

I think the word you're looking for is "They're". As in "They're Richmond supporters".

Clearly your intellect is truly reflected by your team's colours - excrement.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

with Tambing it's all about confidence, it's been said before but once he finds his way, which I predict to be some time in the early part of the season he'll be unstoppable. If he didn't have those over-eager fumble-hands today in the middle he'd have cleared it more then foley easily. The guy just needs time to settle.

 

[Weaver]

Buddy's preaseason game was almost as good as ones we've seen from Mark McQueen, Stuart Edwards, Steve Jackson and Todd Breman. When we get all those guys in the team surely a premiership is just around the corner.

 

[Mean Muggin]

I think the word you're looking for is "They're". As in "They're Richmond supporters".

Clearly your intellect is truly reflected by your team's colours - excrement.

Got to love the blokes who think they're smart by picking apart other posters grammer / spelling errors.

Good on you mate, you sure proved to me how clever you are!

 

[J-Train]

Amidst all your rubbish posts, there is always one or two with a bit of common sense. Agree with this one.

Patience fella's, they've played 30-40 games and we're expecting brownlows already. Franklins an abbo too isnt he... and although it hasnt been that widely published... he's a trouble maker and wait for him to go missing.

It will be a blessing in disguise we didnt pick him up.

I find this statement mildly offensive. So what if he's an "abbo"! Doesn't mean he is automatically trouble. I don't even like Franklin that much but that generalisation sucks the big one.

 

[dipper86]

I think wait till the end of this season before making these comments.

Tambling will be fine = much better than a guy 196cm and doesn't like the contest....... a flash in the pan if ever I saw one.....

How bitter and insecure are you?

Pity the guy thats 196cm can do everything better than Tambling can do as a small player, doesn't like a contest hey!!! thats must be why Franklin avg's more contested possessions than Tambling.

Hilarious.

 

[dipper86]

Patience fella's, they've played 30-40 games and we're expecting brownlows already. Franklins an abbo too isnt he...

What does being Aboriginal have to do with it???? ohh ok because they are black they are all mean't to be stuff ups.

hmmm if thats the case the RFC have a lot of stuff ups running around.

and although it hasnt been that widely published... he's a trouble maker and wait for him to go missing.

Only one indiscretion which was published and was punished accordingly, You're also waiting for Franklin to go missing, someone has their priorities all wrong, worrying about what Franklin is doing rather than your underforming draft pick in Tambling. Sounds very insecure indeed but i like it.

 

[Bojangles17]

Only one indiscretion which was published and was punished accordingly, You're also waiting for Franklin to go missing, someone has their priorities all wrong, worrying about what Franklin is doing rather than your underforming draft pick in Tambling. Sounds very insecure indeed but i like it.

didnt think it'd take long for diper to pipe up, go and tell someone that cares brainspace, if in fact Franklin fullfils the lofty ambitions placed upon him that will indeed be a first for Hawthorn in not making a complete cluster $#^& of a draft considering they are still reeling over missing out on Judd, not to mention a host of other doozies...go on #$%# off

 

[dipper86]

didnt think it'd take long for diper to pipe up, go and tell someone that cares brainspace, if in fact Franklin fullfils the lofty ambitions placed upon him that will indeed be a first for Hawthorn in not making a complete cluster $#^& of a draft considering they are still reeling over missing out on Judd, not to mention a host of other doozies...go on #$%# off

How amusing

The whole Tambling under performing ordeal has caused you to become a emotional mess, now your throwing out insults.

Then in another uncontrollable rant you have the nerve to question the Hawthorn FC drafting blunders, how did the Pavlich and Fiora draft go again????
You must have had a lot of successful picks to only make the finals twice since the draft was introduced.

oh yes the Hodge and Judd draft blunder............ the only difference here is Hodge is a gun in his own right while Fiora well he's just plain ordinary.

 

[sante]

Tambling was amongst our best IMO. He tried...same cannot be said about others.

 

[dipper86]

Tambling was amongst our best IMO. He tried...same cannot be said about others.

Fair call, he did show a bit.

 

[richcogs]

didnt think it'd take long for diper to pipe up, go and tell someone that cares brainspace, if in fact Franklin fullfils the lofty ambitions placed upon him that will indeed be a first for Hawthorn in not making a complete cluster $#^& of a draft considering they are still reeling over missing out on Judd, not to mention a host of other doozies...go on #$%# off

what is this crap, we can't give anyone crap about the draft since it begun! bloody hell we've only made the finals twice since then. dont bring up that crap. we've got to focus on what WERE'RE doing now!

i must also say that franklin has showed a LOT more than Tambling at this stage, but i'll wait till the end of the season to make any further judgement.

 

[Harpoon]

Just a quick question would any of you give pettifer back??

Nope. Been great watching him develop. And he's about the only injury-free player we have.

The fact that we didnt bend over afted half time and get belted by 100, shows atleast our attitude is improving.

About the best point in the thread.

I really hope he comes of age, but I could be really mean and say maybe he's destined to be the next Mark Merenda!

he showed glimpses of what he can and will do as a midfielder and that is, be capable of winning his own ball and bursting away with it. He reads the game beautifully and doesnt struggle to find it in the guts. Still lacks some confidence but soon he'll be goaling on the run instead of fluffing them and once that happens look out, seems to be able to get himself into goal scoring positions naturally coming from midfield.

glimpses...glimpses...that's all he ever shows! I'm being patient with him though, he's only played 30 odd games for crying out loud.

every club is littered with crap draft picks. pointless thread.

also a good point lol

If he didn't have those over-eager fumble-hands today in the middle he'd have cleared it more then foley easily. The guy just needs time to settle.

Over-eager fumble-hands is a perfect description...I think that's what we're all starting to get fed up of with Tambo.

Tambling was amongst our best IMO. He tried...same cannot be said about others.

brings us full circle to Runandhyde's point which I think is the most positive thing to come out of this thread.

 

[Tigerbob]

How bitter and insecure are you?

Pity the guy thats 196cm can do everything better than Tambling can do as a small player, doesn't like a contest hey!!! thats must be why Franklin avg's more contested possessions than Tambling.

Hilarious.

Im fine mate unlike some of the mess going on, on this board!

I think Franklin is exciting, he makes what he does look better than what it actually is, good for him, I just know when Tambling is put in the midfield full time and is getting his 25 to 30 touches and doing it with such excitement and class this argument will be put to bed. At the end of the day for me its about how good Richard Tambling can be, I have seen enough to say he will be an elite midfielder in time, someone who is hard to stop and his eletric pace and flair puts himself and richmond on the map.

I think this argument is a Richmond supporter fault - some of these people are stressed about nothing, I mean Franklin was a top 5 pick, he is meant to be good, He got off to a fast start in his career while Richie was injured and then people panicked and the topic was made.

Anyone with knowledge in recruiting and saw Tamblings junior career compared to Franklin would of taken Tambling, heck I remember the posts leading up to that draft from "knowledgable" Hawk recruiting supporters saying Tambling was definetely going number 2 and he was the better pick to Deledio, thats hilarious. You guys were inconsolable during that draft and were blowing a head gasket that Tambling slipped through to us. Thats what I find funny about the whole thing and your fans who follow the under 18's (you clearly dont dipper) know deep down that Tambling has what it takes.

This topic was boring when it first started its moreso now, as I said in my first post, i'll wait till the end of the season then comment on how things are going with Richie. If Franklin proves me wrong and can handle the physical pressure that will be put on him in the REAL SEASON unlike he did last season then i'll be the first to say well done, but until he proves to me that at 196cm and 100 kilos he can dominant a game physically like a Key Position player should and not get cheap possessions and play like an outside wingman then i wont think he's elite, but he is already a good talent.

To me its good to see generation next, I love the draft and all that comes with it, the young talent, the development of the young talent and from watching years of under 18's I beleive we are on a good thing with Sir Richard

 

[Ceriouss]

Well ... Thank you all for contributing to this thread, the last days reading has been very amusing indeed, ranging from insightful comments, well thought out rebuttals, amusing remarks to inane comments, bad grammar, blind optimism and flame wars. Lots of fun for everyone.

BUT

No one has grasped the concept of the original post.

Picks 1 & 4 in the national draft is a gift for the complete ineptitude and incompetence of the 2004 season and we will have to go through a huge amount of pain to be given this gift again.

Top 10 draft picks are used to build premiership teams, players "like" Richard Tambling may eventually turn out to be a solid member of the midfield but I don't think he will ever turn out to be a match winner like Richo or Franklin has shown in his first 2 years.

This theory of getting the best available player is wrong, why do we need another small skinny midfielder who can run with the ball, how about drafting a player who can get the ball and hit another guy wearing the same jumper on the chest or a guy that can take a towering mark. Quick midfielders are a dime a dozen, they are a waste, we need players who can take a mark and kick goals and players who can kick it accurately into the forward line.

Who is going to replace Richo? ... Cleve? Schultz? Riewoldt? one of them might, but just think what Pavlich or Franklin would look like our forward line today, we could have had both of them.

Could have, but don't have either.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Well ... Thank you all for contributing to this thread, the last days reading has been very amusing indeed, ranging from insightful comments, well thought out rebuttals, amusing remarks to inane comments, bad grammar, blind optimism and flame wars. Lots of fun for everyone.

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Could have, but don't have either.

Look, Yahoo, I'm not sure what game you watched on the weekend, but in the one I sat through we got hammered in the midfield and the clearances. We could have had J.Brown, N.Riewolt, Barry Hall and Richo in the forward line and it wouldn't have made any difference.

We couldn't get the ball often enough, didn't know what to do when we did have it, and were unable to catch, tackle or even pressure Geelong when they had it.

We need quality mids, as many as we can develop!

 

[Ando_4]

I reckon the Hawks stuffed up too, taking Roughead ahead of Franklin.

They might regret this blunder one day.

Certainly taking Roughead ahead of Griffen.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

... but just think what Pavlich or ...

We can't still beat ourselves up about this one? Ancient history buddy. Not even the same admin in place.

What's next - a John Pitura lamentation?

 

[Traffic Light]

Certainly taking Roughead ahead of Griffen.

....and you likewise Deledio ahead of Griffen.

 

[PLSC]

....and you likewise Deledio ahead of Griffen.

griffen lol give me a break

if deledio had west and cross next to him he would be ripping teams apart

griffen hasnt done anything more than raines has in the same position

pick 3 or 76 cant tell the difference