Tambling = Wasted Draft Pick

[santa claws]

How would Monfries have rectified that?

hard at it inside with good skills and most importantly can find his own ball. may not be a huge unit but meets nearly all the criteria. we took a skinny hff who has never found a lot of the ball in meyer. but yes has good pace and skill but these attributes are no good if you cant get your hands on the pill.
personally liked bate dunn and monfries at 12 that draft. wanted drum or hurn at pick 8 2005 instead we took another skinny hbf type in j-o-n. wanted mckenzie at 26 this yr instead we took edwards at 26 instead.
this is in no way a criticism of the players taken they have talent are in the main quick with good skill.

 

[PLSC]

hard at it inside with good skills and most importantly can find his own ball. may not be a huge unit but meets nearly all the criteria. we took a skinny hff who has never found a lot of the ball in meyer. but yes has good pace and skill but these attributes are no good if you cant get your hands on the pill.
personally liked bate dunn and monfries at 12 that draft. wanted drum or hurn at pick 8 2005 instead we took another skinny hbf type in j-o-n. wanted mckenzie at 26 this yr instead we took edwards at 26 instead.
this is in no way a criticism of the players taken they have talent are in the main quick with good skill.

good stuff man

with that list you mention imagine an armitage etc thrown in and our midfield is sewn up for 10 years and a spine is starting to develop

enter 2007 and there is still too many questions and not enough answers

 

[Ando_4]

i think most people were happy with tambling and deledio. like hawthorn we needed kpp like toast needs butter. unlike hawthorn we did nothing about it.
what we did do was take the best player available in deledio. and then proceeded to ignore list needs by not taking kpp in franklin or taking big bodied more inside than outside onballers with pace and good skills.
deledio franklin monfries wood and polo would have been an excellent draft for us. instead we took players who were skinny more outside than inside and with serios deficiencies. we have continued to do so in the main the following 2 drafts.

Ahhh the benefit of hindsight. So easy when you don't have to be responsible for your decisions and can kick back anonymously on a web forum and say 'I told you so.'

Flanklin is not a KPP. Roughead may be just a player.
Lids may be a star and Ritchie too.
Who knows how it will work out. Give it time!

 

[GhostofJimJess]

hard at it inside with good skills and most importantly can find his own ball. may not be a huge unit but meets nearly all the criteria. we took a skinny hff who has never found a lot of the ball in meyer. but yes has good pace and skill but these attributes are no good if you cant get your hands on the pill.
personally liked bate dunn and monfries at 12 that draft. wanted drum or hurn at pick 8 2005 instead we took another skinny hbf type in j-o-n. wanted mckenzie at 26 this yr instead we took edwards at 26 instead.
this is in no way a criticism of the players taken they have talent are in the main quick with good skill.

Fair enough, then. I haven't seen Monfries play for 18 months, and just remember him as a scrawny outsider in 2005. If he's bulked up and gone in-under last season, then I missed it.

 

[froars]

Fair enough, then. I haven't seen Monfries play for 18 months, and just remember him as a scrawny outsider in 2005. If he's bulked up and gone in-under last season, then I missed it.

You been in the can, Ghost lol

 

[GhostofJimJess]

You been in the can, Ghost lol

Which one you mean Froars - the Big House or the Out House??

Not much footy coverage hear in Europe, my good friend. Lucky to see the odd Tiger game (if the internet lets me). BigFooty is my main connection, so keep those match reviews coming, won't you.

 

[froars]

Which one you mean Froars - the Big House or the Out House??

Not much footy coverage hear in Europe, my good friend. Lucky to see the odd Tiger game (if the internet lets me). BigFooty is my main connection, so keep those match reviews coming, won't you.

Sounds like you're in Siberia, Ghost
LMAO@someone in Siberia desperately seeking out the Tiger board of BigFooty for informative comment lol

Cheers Ghost

 

[PLSC]

Ahhh the benefit of hindsight. So easy when you don't have to be responsible for your decisions and can kick back anonymously on a web forum and say 'I told you so.'

Flanklin is not a KPP. Roughead may be just a player.
Lids may be a star and Ritchie too.
Who knows how it will work out. Give it time!

what hindsight?

if i remember correctly around draft time it was like wtf when we got jon and then when we got edwards we still could of got mckenzie

no one is saying these boys wont come good but even if they play to their maximum ability we will still only have a great side of skinny runners

and also miller responsibile? yeh id like to see that the guy is a goose and has a high opinion of himself lucky terry is around to atleast keep everything running about average

 

[santa claws]

what hindsight?

if i remember correctly around draft time it was like wtf when we got jon and then when we got edwards we still could of got mckenzie

no one is saying these boys wont come good but even if they play to their maximum ability we will still only have a great side of skinny runners

and also miller responsibile? yeh id like to see that the guy is a goose and has a high opinion of himself lucky terry is around to atleast keep everything running about average

exactly right most of my thoughts are on public record over at pre.
another player i liked a lot was beau waters i was very critical of trading picks 6 and 20 to get browny i still am. mainly because of where the list was obviously at. this again is not a criticism of browny i just felt we needed to go the youth route like we did in 2004.
for me the most disappointing draft was 2005 when we failed to delist many long term duds and utilised just 3 nd picks.

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

Everyone knows it takes midfielders that little bit longer to develop than KPP's. Tambling has had a couple of injury interrupted seasons, so he has been unable to put any consistancy together.

Give the kid time, he will be awesome.

 

[PLSC]

"Everyone knows it takes midfielders that little bit longer to develop than KPP's"

oh my

and this is the sought of knowledge we have buzzing around the richmond board great stuff

stop it santa your comments have too much common sense and will keep the fluff to a minimum which as we know is unacceptable

 

[Upgrayedd]

i wouldnt label him a wasted pick yet, he could come good, he wont be as good as franklin, no chance in hell, but dont start labeling your own players as wastes
also, midfielders take longer to develop? i can only recall riewoldt and franklin who in their first 1-2 years really dominated games

 

[Darth_Tiger]

lol at the no chance in hell comment. we shall see. kpp usually take longer to develop than smaller types, but the blinger was a very raw recruit. give him time hes gonna be awesum!

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

i wouldnt label him a wasted pick yet, he could come good, he wont be as good as franklin, no chance in hell, but dont start labeling your own players as wastes
also, midfielders take longer to develop? i can only recall riewoldt and franklin who in their first 1-2 years really dominated games

Comparing Franklin to Reiwoldt is laughable

Franklin is good, no doubt about it. But as i said earlier, Tambling just needs 1-2 consisitant seasons without interuption and he will show what he is truly capable of.

This discussion will be interesting after the 07 season. It will interesting to see if he can sustain his 'dominating games' stature and interesting to see if Tambling can take the step to the next level.

 

[Bojangles17]

i wouldnt label him a wasted pick yet, he could come good, he wont be as good as franklin, no chance in hell, but dont start labeling your own players as wastes
also, midfielders take longer to develop? i can only recall riewoldt and franklin who in their first 1-2 years really dominated games

what KP is Franklin playing , he's a HFF and not a bad one, but No KPP and the coach knows it...

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Sounds like you're in Siberia, Ghost
LMAO@someone in Siberia desperately seeking out the Tiger board of BigFooty for informative comment lol

Yeah, I'm struggling with getting my footy fix, Froars. But on the bright side my knowledge of Hurling is second to none.

 

[Beckers]

"Everyone knows it takes midfielders that little bit longer to develop than KPP's"

oh my

and this is the sought of knowledge we have buzzing around the richmond board great stuff

stop it santa your comments have too much common sense and will keep the fluff to a minimum which as we know is unacceptable

THEY DO Comes as a surprise to me and i think the rest of the footy world! Always thought the big KPP's, especially ruck and defense, took a long time to come on where as players like Cooney, Griffen, Judd, Ball, Dal Santo, Murphy, Jordan Lewis etc, etc, adapt much more quickly

 

[Fishfinger]

But on the bright side my knowledge of Hurling is second to none.

I reckon a few buimics might give you a run for your money.
To be sure, to be sure.

 

[PLSC]

THEY DO Comes as a surprise to me and i think the rest of the footy world! Always thought the big KPP's, especially ruck and defense, took a long time to come on where as players like Cooney, Griffen, Judd, Ball, Dal Santo, Murphy, Jordan Lewis etc, etc, adapt much more quickly

i was quoting some other fool

get your head checked?

 

[davey_23]

He'll be alright.

 

[Beckers]

i was quoting some other fool

get your head checked?

Apologies, just re-read it! The other brain dead dude that said thatmust be one of the Richmond talent scouts

 

[_RT_]

I don't see how Tambling who is spending more time as a HFF instead of in the midfield can be labelled as a wasted pick. I posted a poll in the Polls board asking if a player was a dud after he put up the following numbers in his first 3 years:
First Year:
20 games 6.8 possies 2.5 marks 1.4 goals
Second Year
21 games 7.4 possies 2.5 marks 1.8 goals
Third Year
21 games 11 possies 4 marks 1.4 goals

That player was Brad Green who spent most of those years as a HFF, with occasional runs in the middle, who kicked goals and you would not think he would have blossomed into the player who in the last 3 years has established himself as a very good midfielder, averaging: 19.8 disposals 6 marks and 1 goal.

Tambling in comparison has averaged 11 disposals 4 marks a 0.7 goals over the first 2 years of his career. Seems to me he stacks up pretty well with Green and if he continues to improve with regular game time then he will be a very good player for the Tigers in the years to come.

The big difference is Green got consistent game time over those 3 years where as Bling has not his first year was ruined by injury and his second was ruined by having to play a different position every other week due to injuries to other players.