tambling

[Croat tiger]

So!

Just because he isn't tearing it up yet doesn't mean he is just "lazy", especially when it's a fact that he has a massive work ethic.

So you quickly forgot that game against hawthorn when he was benched because he had zero work ethic that day.

 

[acr2751]

All I was after was how many of you think Tambling will be a gun and why do you think it. Given that you see him week in week out, you are better placed than anyone else to tell me. I wasn't trying to bait anyone so I could knock them down. Just wanted opinions and justifications behind it. Like most of the Tiger supporters I am sick of the comparison between Tambling/Franklin/Griffen etc, hence the reason for my post.

not sure myself weather he will be a gun,(very hopefull) but he is already is a serviceable player.
after watching him all year some of his work in bursts was gun like.
only in bursts though and to be a gun he will need to produce over4 1/4s most weeks thats his challenge and what we are all hopeing for.

as for all his baggers get a life, were happy with his progress

 

[davemills]

Cupido had all of the talent in the world but did not make it in the AFL because he was far too lazy.

This means he was not good enough.

Dedication is a key attribute to being a good footballer.

Well I agree with your last comment. And it's a good thing to that Tambling is quite a dedicated young man. Given that, I think he is due to break out this year and next.

Tambling often looks like he is cruising when he is running as hard as the bloke next to him who looks like he's giving 100%. The David Rhys-Jones complex.

 

[Phil McCreviss]

not sure myself weather he will be a gun,(very hopefull) but he is already is a serviceable player.
after watching him all year some of his work in bursts was gun like.
only in bursts though and to be a gun he will need to produce over4 1/4s most weeks thats his challenge and what we are all hopeing for.

as for all his baggers get a life, were happy with his progress

Did Wallace play him up forward often ie a goal sneak like a Leon Davis? I remember him playing midfield for most of the year. Maybe the coaching staff should play him more as a burst player then until they are confident he has the engine and body to take a bit of punishment.

 

[Phil McCreviss]

So you quickly forgot that game against hawthorn when he was benched because he had zero work ethic that day.

Roughead was dragged a few times for the same thing and even dropped back to the Ressies for a game before coming good last year. Kids will have the odd shocker, part of development. Wouldn't look at that game in isolation.

 

[bomba4eva]

No need to undersell his statistics. Last year he averaged 13.7 disposals and had 3 shockers. Other than that most of his games were in the 15-20 disposal region (11 out of 20 games were in the 15-20 region, as opposed to 7 in the 8-13 region and 2 in the less than 8).

Fiora was probably better than tambling this year. But what does that have to do with anything. Fiora vs Pavlich is a much bigger stuff up, both in terms of this years performance and past performances, than Franklin vs Tambling.

Not too sure about that. Franklin may turn out to be a legend of the AFL if his current performances and expected improvement turns out to be true. He needs greater consistency for sure. There is a massive gulf between Fiora and Pavlich, but if Tambling develops the way many Tiger fans expect him too then perhaps the Fiora/Pavlich trade will be the bigger stuff up. Most of you seem to believe he has the potential to be an elite midfielder which compares closely to being an elite CHF so if that eventuates then it wont be the greatest stuff up after all. Tambling cops too much flak due to Franklin having progressed so well at this stage, and in this sense it is extremely unfair for Tambling, but he has the chance to create a name for himself over the next couple of seasons with consistently high performances. I personally think he is your average player (not terrible by any stretch) but will come back and apologise if he proves me wrong. Good luck to him.

 

[boodsyboy]

Mumber 1 Bombers Fan Peter Costello gone ,Sheedy gone +bombers gone suck it up.

 

[ImaBeliever!]

Not too sure about that. Franklin may turn out to be a legend of the AFL if his current performances and expected improvement turns out to be true. He needs greater consistency for sure. There is a massive gulf between Fiora and Pavlich, but if Tambling develops the way many Tiger fans expect him too then perhaps the Fiora/Pavlich trade will be the bigger stuff up. Most of you seem to believe he has the potential to be an elite midfielder which compares closely to being an elite CHF so if that eventuates then it wont be the greatest stuff up after all. Tambling cops too much flak due to Franklin having progressed so well at this stage, and in this sense it is extremely unfair for Tambling, but he has the chance to create a name for himself over the next couple of seasons with consistently high performances. I personally think he is your average player (not terrible by any stretch) but will come back and apologise if he proves me wrong. Good luck to him.

At last, some sense! I knew you had it in ya Bomba.

For all the pathetic interchange going on in this thread and those determined to see Tambling fail , it come down to a couple of considerations:

Tambling is still young, and those who say he can't become an elite mid are clearly jumping the gun, and probably haven't seen what the guy can do, or simply haven't the vision to see what he can be once he develops.

We all have our opinions, but those that talk in absolutes (ie 'he will never be elite') are fools, and add nothing to a debate. For f*cks sake, give your opinion based on a best guess, but don't talk like you can see the future.

BTW Bomba, its good to see your committment to coming back and admitting you were wrong if he proves himself to be above average - i'll be waiting.

 

[WALKER]

Tambling will give decent service as a HF/Rotating MF player but is never going to be a star or elite.....He simply isn't good enough.....

spot on, he will never make it..

 

[hagansbull]

I'm not saying any of them are elite but on the other hand i don't believe there weight has anything to do with this. That is the whole point. Tambling weighs 80kg not 70kg and i think you will find that every club has players around the same weight as Tambling. I would say that we have around 10 of them on our list. Guys such as Peter Burgoyne have the same sort of build as Tambling and it doesn't affect him. When Wanganeen won a Brownlow he weighed 5kg less than Tambling does. Maybe Tambling lacks body strength and therefore needs to be bigger? I'm still wondering why this is used as an excuse for Tambling as i don't hear this excuse really being used for other guys who are perhaps even lighter than him. You didn't really answer my question at all, all you did is point out the obvious by saying that the players i listed are not elite. Are you basically saying that you must be 85-90kg (tambling is 80kg) to be an elite player?

Carni, Tambling weighs 74kg's ( source: RFC player prof, website) Not many Listed players are under 75kg,s. Essendon have 2, Dempsey 69kg's and Davey, 70 kg's. I don't know where you got the ten on Essendon's list as there are only 3 others under 80kg's. That would make, in fact, Wanganeen's Brownlow weight 1 kg heavier than Tambling.P Burgoune is in fact 83kg's and 183cm to Tambling's 181cm's, a whopping 9kg's Heavier, That is in fact nearly half a bag of cement, but I guess I wouldn't expect you to know how heavy that is. Now Carni, facts, you make it up as you go along, when you should be working. So back to work bitch.

 

[lids2004roar]

So you quickly forgot that game against hawthorn when he was benched because he had zero work ethic that day.

It wasn't to do with work ethic my friend, it may have been a tad more complicated than him feeling "lazy"

Venting his frustrations by hanging up on the coach didn't help either.

 

[Blinger]

Tambling is coming along nicely at the moment, has been fair to good for the couple of years he has been playing. My main criticism on him is he only works one way, that is when his teammates have the ball he is moving around quite well. Yet when you see the opposition with the ball, if they are not within reaching distance he won't chase. I saw this on quite a few occasions last year, to me this was his major flaw in his game. So imo if he can work on this part of his game a lot more over the next couple of seasons, I will be very happy with the kid.

 

[nut]

Just out of curiousity (no I am not trolling), but lets take Franklin and any other player from that draft out of the equation for a moment. Now I want to ask Tiger supporters, and you see him more than any other supporters, do you have any long term concerns for his future? Or do you think its a forgone conclusion he will be in the games elite without a question of doubt?

Secondly on what grounds do you base your opinion on? And for any opposition supporters just saying "he is crap" isnt a substantial argument nor is any Tigers supporters saying "I have seen glimpses." That reasoning is a load of shyte. And please no statistics. They can lie at the best of times.

So I can't use the " glimpses I've seen " or Statistics to base my opinion, so in that case yes he is CRAP.

 

[wart101]

I don't think there is anything wrong with tambling, just because he didn't hit the target straight out of the barrel like franklin maybe doesn't mean he is shit, lets remember neither did diledio, the only difference there is he wasnt being compared to somebody else!!!

I'de say i have seen enough growth from tambo to think he is going to make it!!! and thats it!! as long as he keeps improving!!!

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

The more teamates around his age bracket the more confident he will feel.

 

[Goldust]

MAKE or break year for Bling in my estimation.

Worth remembering that Luke Hodge didn't exactly set the world on fire in his first few seasons, but would rate in the upper echelon of stars at the present time.

Bling NEEDS to be there by the end of 2008 if he is going to forge a worthwhuile AFL career.

The alternative....in the words of Jack Dyer.."just an ordinary player" who racked up 100-120 games in an ordinary team because he continued to get pick on promise and the fact we had no one better.

Then in eight years time, long after Tiger fans on Big Footy have forgotten G. Tivendale, we all be bemoaning the fact Bling got picked week in, week out too!

Put simply...THE TIME IS NOW...HE NEEDS TO START SHOWING US SOMETHING!

 

[Junior24]

Tambling may or may not become an “elite” player, and whether you think he will or won’t is a matter of opinion. But there does appear to be a large number of bombers supporters on this thread discussing Tambling and whether he is a dud or not. It is common knowledge that bombers supporters are generally the most delusional about their team’s players. So here is a question for you bombers supporters, so you think Tambling is an average/serviceable player at best, from your own teams list of the players from the same draft or later , who to you think is better than Bling and who is destined to gain elite status?
This should be a laugh.

 

[Bazzar]

I think he will end up elite, but who am i to judge. The way he finished of last season was fantastic, and just like it was Foleys comming of age year last, i would love to think it will be Blings turn this year.

 

[daics cousin]

Once Tambling puts a little more bulk he'll become an elite player,because he has the skills,but in previoos years he got throw around a bit.That will change when beefs up a little.

 

[Rayzorwire]

Tambling will move to a whole other level with a good pre-season and a bit more confidence.

JON is similar...these boys just need to play in a winning side, grow their confidence and start feeling like the hunters instead of the hunted.

 

[Roachy8]

Tambling will move to a whole other level with a good pre-season and a bit more confidence.

JON is similar...these boys just need to play in a winning side, grow their confidence and start feeling like the hunters instead of the hunted.

I don't know how much notice these guys take of media reports & comments, (and hopefully even less of comments on forums such as these) but I have little doubt that Bling has been all too aware of the unfair scrutiny on him.
Even though by all reports he is a fine young man, it couldn't NOT affect him with this constant micro-analysis of his progress etc... not to mention a couple of early injuries.
Another year older now, another pre-season will add tremendously to his self-confidence and therefore his instinct to impose himself on a game.
Those who have watched him know full well he has all the skills to be a really fine long-term player.
Maturity will let him demostrate this.

 

[bomba4eva]

So here is a question for you bombers supporters, so you think Tambling is an average/serviceable player at best, from your own teams list of the players from the same draft or later , who to you think is better than Bling and who is destined to gain elite status?
This should be a laugh.

What would be the point? You have stated openly that you'd find it a laugh.
Ill name a few though:
Ryder, Gumbleton, Jetta, Hislop

 

[Haggard H]

What would be the point? You have stated openly that you'd find it a laugh.
Ill name a few though:
Ryder, Gumbleton, Jetta, Hislop

Haha!

 

[Ancient Tiger]

The class of 2004 (National Draft) is the barometer of the RFC.
Like Tambling, the rest of the mob must show their wares in 2009. That is why many of us are expecting the team to show it's biggest improvement in that year. They would be closing on 100 games but still only 22 years of age. Let's not forget that Davey of Essendon did not start playing AFL till he was 22 and actually turned 23 in May of this year.
So everybody that thinks players should be elite AFL footballers by the age of 20-21 are expecting too much. Some freaks do become champions at that early age but they are the exception, not the rule.
Like his playing partners from that draft, give Tambling time to show us that he will be a champion before we say that he'll never be one.

 

[boodsyboy]

Oh nice one carni would not get to smart being a bomber supporter you got a lot of pain cmming your way next season and beyond but remember the bombers ethos always play for the free kick,Dive,Dive,dive