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[bomba4eva]

with so much being said about bling in the years he has been playing and the so called pressure he is constantly under, do we think he will make it and have a breakout 2008...

he is an extremely capable player and has the talent to be an absolute elite footballer!!

lets just put the last few years behind us and look forward to seeing tambling evolve like we all know he can!!

Im sure most of you have realised it by now but Tambling simply isnt up to it. I had a read through the Tambling/Franklin thread that is closed on this board and couldnt help but laugh at how much some of the Tigers fans have been put back in their box. Clearly Franklin was the better pick.
Elite footballer? Will never be one and is nothing more than an average player who has been ridiculed due to the ridiculously high pick given for him. Looks more than likely to be another failed top 10 pick in the AFL. Kepler Bradley and Mark Bolton have blessed Essendon with this tradition of picking dud players in the top 10 and Tambling is simply following the trend. Would not have as much pressure if he hadnt gone so damn high. Should improve next season but cannot see him turning into the player so Tiger fans think he still can be. Sorry, but its another failed recruit by the Tigers.

 

[Phil McCreviss]

Just out of curiousity (no I am not trolling), but lets take Franklin and any other player from that draft out of the equation for a moment. Now I want to ask Tiger supporters, and you see him more than any other supporters, do you have any long term concerns for his future? Or do you think its a forgone conclusion he will be in the games elite without a question of doubt?

Secondly on what grounds do you base your opinion on? And for any opposition supporters just saying "he is crap" isnt a substantial argument nor is any Tigers supporters saying "I have seen glimpses." That reasoning is a load of shyte. And please no statistics. They can lie at the best of times.

 

[ImaBeliever!]

Im sure most of you have realised it by now but Tambling simply isnt up to it. I had a read through the Tambling/Franklin thread that is closed on this board and couldnt help but laugh at how much some of the Tigers fans have been put back in their box. Clearly Franklin was the better pick.
Elite footballer? Will never be one and is nothing more than an average player who has been ridiculed due to the ridiculously high pick given for him. Looks more than likely to be another failed top 10 pick in the AFL. Kepler Bradley and Mark Bolton have blessed Essendon with this tradition of picking dud players in the top 10 and Tambling is simply following the trend. Would not have as much pressure if he hadnt gone so damn high. Should improve next season but cannot see him turning into the player so Tiger fans think he still can be. Sorry, but its another failed recruit by the Tigers.

Pathetic post.

Anyone would think the guy has reached his ultimate level of development. As if! The reality is he is far from reaching it still, and yet has been a senior permanent (injury permitting) since he was drafted.

You must count chickens for a living, mate. Keep a close eye on Tambo for the next few years, and once the guy has become one of the stars of the comp, have the guts to come back here and admit you were wrong.

At a minimum, he will give plenty of good service to the RFC, play 150 - 200 games, and be an integral part of the Tiger climb to the top. That wouldn't be a failure by any stretch of the imagination.

Why are there so many uneducated, unseeing fools that are conversely so eager to highlight their lack of vision by offering absolute statements about how player X won't make it, based on so little information?

 

[ImaBeliever!]

Just out of curiousity (no I am not trolling), but lets take Franklin and any other player from that draft out of the equation for a moment. Now I want to ask Tiger supporters, and you see him more than any other supporters, do you have any long term concerns for his future? Or do you think its a forgone conclusion he will be in the games elite without a question of doubt?

Secondly on what grounds do you base your opinion on? And for any opposition supporters just saying "he is crap" isnt a substantial argument nor is any Tigers supporters saying "I have seen glimpses." That reasoning is a load of shyte. And please no statistics. They can lie at the best of times.

What a strange set of conditions to place on replies to your question.

When you see 'glimpses' of star-making ability in a young player, why is it 'shyte' reasoning to then say you think that player will become a star when he develops? It isn't 'shyte', its logical.

Tambling has shown 'glimpses' in a number of games for Richmond; enough for the more observant football watchers to realise its only a matter of time before he emerges and produces consistently high-level performances once he develops.

By your reasoning, all junior talent-watchers should just give up, because small glimpses of AFL level ability are all they will ever see.

 

[Deledio2Conca]

Tambling has done a decent job so far. If Franklin didn't exist then Tambling wouldn't be under any pressure at all

And there-in lies the problem 99% of bigfooty dimwits can't understand.

You are exactly right, if you judge Tambling solely on what he has done, and not compare him to Buddy, he has done a good job thus far, but try telling that to the others.

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Just out of curiousity (no I am not trolling), but lets take Franklin and any other player from that draft out of the equation for a moment. Now I want to ask Tiger supporters, and you see him more than any other supporters, do you have any long term concerns for his future? Or do you think its a forgone conclusion he will be in the games elite without a question of doubt?

Secondly on what grounds do you base your opinion on? And for any opposition supporters just saying "he is crap" isnt a substantial argument nor is any Tigers supporters saying "I have seen glimpses." That reasoning is a load of shyte. And please no statistics. They can lie at the best of times.

Just as I've stated before, you obviously have a problem with filling your crevice and have to plead to the public with a name like yours. Please stay away!

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

And there-in lies the problem 99% of bigfooty dimwits can't understand.

You are exactly right, if you judge Tambling solely on what he has done, and not compare him to Buddy, he has done a good job thus far, but try telling that to the others.

Yep, I've been a fan of Tambling so far and I think he's a pretty good player. I think he'll show his true worth in years to come. A definite 200 gamer for the Tigers.

 

[ToroHombre]

Yep, I've been a fan of Tambling so far and I think he's a pretty good player. I think he'll show his true worth in years to come. A definite 200 gamer for the Tigers.

Kane Johnson rule - Just because a player has played or is near playing 200 games, it doesn't mean they are automatically a champion.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Kane Johnson rule - Just because a player has played or is near playing 200 games, it doesn't mean they are automatically a champion.

Not sure I mentioned Tambling would be a "champion", but point taken.

 

[carmi99]

Pathetic post.

Anyone would think the guy has reached his ultimate level of development. As if! The reality is he is far from reaching it still, and yet has been a senior permanent (injury permitting) since he was drafted.

You must count chickens for a living, mate. Keep a close eye on Tambo for the next few years, and once the guy has become one of the stars of the comp, have the guts to come back here and admit you were wrong.

At a minimum, he will give plenty of good service to the RFC, play 150 - 200 games, and be an integral part of the Tiger climb to the top. That wouldn't be a failure by any stretch of the imagination.

Why are there so many uneducated, unseeing fools that are conversely so eager to highlight their lack of vision by offering absolute statements about how player X won't make it, based on so little information?

Tambling will most definately play 150-200 games, it would be very unwise to suggest otherwise. As i stated in an earlier post, i expect him to continue to be a decent player for your club and i don't see any reason why he won't be a ten year player. This is not the topic of the thread though, the question is whether or not Tambling will turn into an 'elite' player. I for one do not believe that he will but this is a matter of opinion. This certainly does not make me an uneducated, unseeing fool who is eager to highlight his lack of vision (btw you basically said the same thing twice but by using different words, but i'm sure a smart fellow like you knew that already). You need to be open to the fact that not everybody is going to share your views on certain players and it does not make them uneducated if they do not aggree with you.

It will be very interesting to see if Tambling has the big break out year next season that many of your fellow supporters are predicting.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

I think it's fair to say Tambling has all the tools to make it as an elite player. Last years NAB training ladder for all the good it did during the season atleast showed us he's right up there with the top trainers at our club, so he's putting in. He's steadily increasing in size aswell so he's not one of those hopelessly skinny blokes. It just needs to click for him. The glimpses we all talk about got more and more frequent towards the end of last year, hopefully it carries into 08.

 

[carmi99]

I think it's fair to say Tambling has all the tools to make it as an elite player. Last years NAB training ladder for all the good it did during the season atleast showed us he's right up there with the top trainers at our club, so he's putting in. He's steadily increasing in size aswell so he's not one of those hopelessly skinny blokes. It just needs to click for him. The glimpses we all talk about got more and more frequent towards the end of last year, hopefully it carries into 08.

Just wondering why you guys place so much emphasis on his weight? Is it really that important that he gets a lot bigger? IMO a lot of indigenous lads are quite slim and a lot of time they seem to use this to there benefit. And is he really that much smaller then a lot of other guys in the comp? Essendon for example have guys such as Davey, Lovett, Jetta and Depsey who are all very slight but i for one hope they don't put in too much weight as it may harm on of there main attributes which is there pace. Do you think it may be possible that some of the Richmond faithful use this as an excuse for Tambling?

Tambling 180cm / 80kg
Dempsey 185cm / 77kg
Davey 172cm / 70kg
Lovett 183cm / 75kg
Jetta 178cm / 78kg

All of the Essendon guys are lighter, with only Davey being significantly shorter. Dempsey for example is 5cm taller yet is 3kg lighter then Tambling.

Tambling is also 5kg heavier then Lovett yet Lovett is 3cm taller.

I watched Davey at a pre season game at Casey Fields agaisnt the Hawks and remember my mate and i commenting on how small and skinny Davey looked but this hasn't seemed to hinder his game at all. He is 10kg lighter then Tambling.

 

[lids2004roar]

We should seriously stop this crap about Tambling. He will be fine, you will see next year will be his big breakout year, i can guarantee it, bookmark it. Who gives a shit what other supporters say about him. They dont watch him every week like us tiger fans do. I have seen enough of bling to say that he will be a star. It will eventually all click for him and god help all those trolls next year when he rips it up.

I saw Bling as a different player towards the end of year that suggested he was getting his confidence, and was taking the game on.
The game early in the year against Collingwood and West Coast showed us what he will be and also his last 5-6 games,especially the St Kilda game showed me that he will be a gun. He has had more Disposals this year and kicked more goals then any other year so he is progressing well.

The guy has had a few injuries since arriving and this will be his 2nd proper pre season. I remember i was at that game against Collingwood in the NAB Cup in 2005 and saw bling for the 1st time, i said to my mate he will be a player and looked so comfortable out there, i knew from that game on he will be a star. It went wrong for him after that with his injuries, but he is developing well and has improved each year.

I have stopped listening to Posters like MonkeyBoy and so on because they talk shit and have no clue about Tambling.

I also spoke to Craig Mcrae after the season finished and as our player development coach i asked him about bling. He said Tambling will be a star and is rated very highly at our club. Said it will take him another year or two before he reaches his true potential which saw him be pick 4 in 2004.
I believe him because he spends enough time with him and knows what a star he will be.

So just ignore knobs who talk shit about bling.

Tambling to star in 2008.

Excellent post Keep up the great work

I think you're wrong tambling has all the talent in the world but he just doesn't use it enough,he's borderline krakouer material a very lazy footballer.

Tambling finished 4th in the NAB Training Challenge last year indicating he is one of the very best trainers at our club.

And there-in lies the problem 99% of bigfooty dimwits can't understand.

You are exactly right, if you judge Tambling solely on what he has done, and not compare him to Buddy, he has done a good job thus far, but try telling that to the others.

I wholeheartedly agree - if you ignore Buddy and purely look at what Bling has done people would say he's a future star.

The fact that Terry gloated about getting Bling upsetting Hawthorn supporters followed by Buddy's quick rise to early stardom meant that the boot was always going to lay into poor Tambling.

He gets no respect by non-Richmond people. It's so frustrating for him to be in this situation, I honestly can't wait to see him become the star that he deserves to be.

 

[Croat tiger]

Excellent post Keep up the great work





Tambling finished 4th in the NAB Training Challenge last year indicating he is one of the very best trainers at our club.




I wholeheartedly agree - if you ignore Buddy and purely look at what Bling has done people would say he's a future star.

The fact that Terry gloated about getting Bling upsetting Hawthorn supporters followed by Buddy's quick rise to early stardom meant that the boot was always going to lay into poor Tambling.

He gets no respect by non-Richmond people. It's so frustrating for him to be in this situation, I honestly can't wait to see him become the star that he deserves to be.

That means absolutely nothing,it's in match play where it counts.He needs to work his butt off on the field for us and repay the faith we have invested in him.

 

[hagansbull]

Thank you for the advice but i am actually employed. Fortunately (depending on which side you butter your bread) my work involves working on a PC, therefore giving me plenty of time to surf the net.

I actually think that i am quite well versed when it comes to football knowledge but i guess that is a matter of opinion, much like it is a matter of opinion whether or not Tambling will ever be a star. I'm sure your smart enough to get my point.

On the subject of that Aimslee guy, do you think he knows that it is actually meant to be Ainsley Harriott or is he simply taking the piss?

Fortunately Carmi, I butter my bread upside, mainly, the reason being, downside attracts $hit. I would like to know in all your wisdom how many games of footy you played? All my playing days never, not one knew a good, hard at it footballer to have a job on working on a PC. Parrot wanna be

 

[carmi99]

Fortunately Carmi, I butter my bread upside, mainly, the reason being, downside attracts $hit. I would like to know in all your wisdom how many games of footy you played? All my playing days never, not one knew a good, hard at it footballer to have a job on working on a PC. Parrot wanna be

Really, Scott Russell from the Pies was pretty hard at it and i used to work with him. I'm also quite positive that there are more than a handful of AFL players who work in an office outside of football.

Quite a funny post really, why don't you give us a list of all of the acceptable occupations in order to qualify for your theory on being able to have some sort of knowledge about our great game.

FWII i only ever played club football but i really don't understand what relevence that has. Some of the smartest football minds in our game belong to people who never managed to play the game at the highest level.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Just wondering why you guys place so much emphasis on his weight? Is it really that important that he gets a lot bigger? IMO a lot of indigenous lads are quite slim and a lot of time they seem to use this to there benefit. And is he really that much smaller then a lot of other guys in the comp? Essendon for example have guys such as Davey, Lovett, Jetta and Depsey who are all very slight but i for one hope they don't put in too much weight as it may harm on of there main attributes which is there pace. Do you think it may be possible that some of the Richmond faithful use this as an excuse for Tambling?

Tambling 180cm / 80kg
Dempsey 185cm / 77kg
Davey 172cm / 70kg
Lovett 183cm / 75kg
Jetta 178cm / 78kg

All of the Essendon guys are lighter, with only Davey being significantly shorter. Dempsey for example is 5cm taller yet is 3kg lighter then Tambling.

Tambling is also 5kg heavier then Lovett yet Lovett is 3cm taller.

I watched Davey at a pre season game at Casey Fields agaisnt the Hawks and remember my mate and i commenting on how small and skinny Davey looked but this hasn't seemed to hinder his game at all. He is 10kg lighter then Tambling.

None of those blokes are elite or really showing enough to say 'if they can do it why can't tambling' at their current weight. Personally I can't think of too many elite midfielders weighing 70kg. And by size I don't necessarily mean weight but lean muscle mass, strength. He's not far off.

 

[Deledio2Conca]

I watched Davey at a pre season game at Casey Fields agaisnt the Hawks and remember my mate and i commenting on how small and skinny Davey looked but this hasn't seemed to hinder his game at all. He is 10kg lighter then Tambling.

Not having a go or anything, but Davey had the stuffing knocked out of him in just about every game he played didn't he? Yes he is quicker than everyone on the park, but numerous times I saw him in the hands of trainers.

 

[carmi99]

Not having a go or anything, but Davey had the stuffing knocked out of him in just about every game he played didn't he? Yes he is quicker than everyone on the park, but numerous times I saw him in the hands of trainers.

He broke his arm when a guy fell ontop of him and copped a few knocks but his size doesn't hinder his game. He is probably the best tackler at our club and is not afraid to put his body on the line. I'm just wondering why so many Richmond supporters always point to weight as a key factor, and say things such as "you wait until he puts on some weight" etc. Surely Tambling getting knocked around isn't the reason that people are saying this, unless in fact he is soft in which case it may be an issue. If you have a big ticker, like Davey, size should not be an issue. What are the key reasons that you, or other Tigers supporter, feel that he needs to put on weight? I also am not having a go and i am atually quite interested to know why. Maybe it is something that us opposition supporters have overlooked.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Why don't we consider the very real facts about younger, inexperienced players, in that they struggle in lower placed sides.
Untill they get that 100 odd games they generally tend to have very little influence over a game, consistantly, when the game is in the balance and there to be won, there are obviuosly exceptions.
Don't jump off Bling to soon we are getting a group together that are hopefully going to be reaching that 100 game level at a similar time, then let's make our decision.

 

[Crumden]

Essendon for example have guys such as Davey, Lovett, Jetta and Depsey who are all very slight but i for one hope they don't put in too much weight as it may harm on of there main attributes which is there pace. Do you think it may be possible that some of the Richmond faithful use this as an excuse for Tambling?

Tambling 180cm / 80kg
Dempsey 185cm / 77kg
Davey 172cm / 70kg
Lovett 183cm / 75kg
Jetta 178cm / 78kg

All of the Essendon guys are lighter, with only Davey being significantly shorter. Dempsey for example is 5cm taller yet is 3kg lighter then Tambling.

Tambling is also 5kg heavier then Lovett yet Lovett is 3cm taller.

I watched Davey at a pre season game at Casey Fields agaisnt the Hawks and remember my mate and i commenting on how small and skinny Davey looked but this hasn't seemed to hinder his game at all. He is 10kg lighter then Tambling.

3 of those blokes haven't played 20 games between them and the 4th (Lovett) is still very inconsistent. Also, those blokes are pockets or flankers where Tambling showed in the second half of the season his best work is in close in the guts, where you need a bit of strength so you aren't knocked off the ball.

Whatever point you were making Carmel, you have once again soundly defeated yourself in an argument. Its certainly a unique skill you have to continuously lose an argument against yourself.

 

[carmi99]

None of those blokes are elite or really showing enough to say 'if they can do it why can't tambling' at their current weight. Personally I can't think of too many elite midfielders weighing 70kg. And by size I don't necessarily mean weight but lean muscle mass, strength. He's not far off.

I'm not saying any of them are elite but on the other hand i don't believe there weight has anything to do with this. That is the whole point. Tambling weighs 80kg not 70kg and i think you will find that every club has players around the same weight as Tambling. I would say that we have around 10 of them on our list. Guys such as Peter Burgoyne have the same sort of build as Tambling and it doesn't affect him. When Wanganeen won a Brownlow he weighed 5kg less than Tambling does. Maybe Tambling lacks body strength and therefore needs to be bigger? I'm still wondering why this is used as an excuse for Tambling as i don't hear this excuse really being used for other guys who are perhaps even lighter than him. You didn't really answer my question at all, all you did is point out the obvious by saying that the players i listed are not elite. Are you basically saying that you must be 85-90kg (tambling is 80kg) to be an elite player?

 

[carmi99]

3 of those blokes haven't played 20 games between them and the 4th (Lovett) is still very inconsistent. Also, those blokes are pockets or flankers where Tambling showed in the second half of the season his best work is in close in the guts, where you need a bit of strength so you aren't knocked off the ball.

Whatever point you were making Carmel, you have once again soundly defeated yourself in an argument. Its certainly a unique skill you have to continuously lose an argument against yourself.

I havent lost the argument at all, you are just too naive to actually think about what i am saying.

Lovett is not elite, he is far from it. His slight frame is not an excuse for him not being elite. I have never heard this used as an excuse by an Essendon supporter. That is the whole point of the argument and if you can't comprehend that then you clearly are not a very intelligent person.
And you obviously don't watch too much of Essendon because if you did you would know that Lovett had more game time in the middle of the park this year than what he did in the forward line.

 

[Rancid_Beasties]

He broke his arm when a guy fell ontop of him and copped a few knocks but his size doesn't hinder his game. He is probably the best tackler at our club and is not afraid to put his body on the line. I'm just wondering why so many Richmond supporters always point to weight as a key factor, and say things such as "you wait until he puts on some weight" etc. Surely Tambling getting knocked around isn't the reason that people are saying this, unless in fact he is soft in which case it may be an issue. If you have a big ticker, like Davey, size should not be an issue. What are the key reasons that you, or other Tigers supporter, feel that he needs to put on weight? I also am not having a go and i am atually quite interested to know why. Maybe it is something that us opposition supporters have overlooked.

Amazing pace and a big ticker until he gets nailed by newman, a mid paced backman coming off a badly broken leg.

Its not just about having track pace, its about having match pace. Newman's low 3's 20 metres time mightnt look good on paper but when hes been going to the right positions on the field all day and not running any further than necessary, hes still got a low 3's 20 metre time in him at the 10 minute mark of the 4th quarter while a davey is knackered and only has a mid 3's. Everyone, including richmond supporters, crapping on about speed and listing times. Football smarts have to be taken into account when measuring football speed.

 

[bomba4eva]

I havent lost the argument at all, you are just too naive to actually think about what i am saying.

Lovett is not elite, he is far from it. His slight frame is not an excuse for him not being elite. I have never heard this used as an excuse by an Essendon supporter. That is the whole point of the argument and if you can't comprehend that then you clearly are not a very intelligent person.
And you obviously don't watch too much of Essendon because if you did you would know that Lovett had more game time in the middle of the park this year than what he did in the forward line.

Many of these Tiger fans are spewing crap out of their mouths to try and defend 'Bling'. Fact is that its a supporters job to feel really optimistic about their players especially the top picks. We had the same with Bradley for a few years until we came to our senses. Tambling is not up to it, will improve, but will never be the elite player so many of these blind fans keep saying. Has shown nothing at all to suggest he will be a star player of the competition. Some clown said i was uneducated blah blah blah because I didnt agree that Tambling is going to be a star, but when so many people dont rate him at all, including many Tiger fans, I would think that the majority would know what they are talking about. He may well reach 200 games, but will never reach the heights some of you are hoping he does. Good luck to him, but he just isnt up for it.