Toast Tasmania Officially Entering the Competition :tasmania:

[Bunk Moreland]

Imagine spending your entire life working towards an AFL career and then having to move to ****ing Hobart LMAO.

They move to Geelong, western Sydney and bloody Adelaide.

 

[Toump Ass]

They move to Geelong, western Sydney and bloody Adelaide.

Western Sydney is a great place if you like organised crime and shit food. Juts ask Jake Stringer.

Adelaide is a fantastic city, wash your mouth out. Culture, beautiful people, nice architecture. It's 10x the city Hobart is.

(Edit: I'm not going to defend Geelong though, **** that place.)

 

[Orfullrules]

Somewhere that's not a cultural ****ing wasteland.

Name somewhere.

 

[Fire]

People seem to have this archetype of a 20 year old male who wants to party whenever they can. Which I guess must be why the Gold Coast is everyone's destination club.

When there are 20 teams in the competition there will be ~900 listed players, all with their own personality and preferences and desires. You will get people who want to live a lifestyle consistent with Tasmania. You will get people who dont mind it, and those who would prefer something else but tolerate it for the money or role or whatever. Hobart has over 250k people and is just over an hours flight from Melbourne. It isn't some unpopulated isolated wasteland like Port Headland.

 

[Orfullrules]

People seem to have this archetype of a 20 year old male who wants to party whenever they can. Which I guess must be why the Gold Coast is everyone's destination club.

When there are 20 teams in the competition there will be ~900 listed players, all with their own personality and preferences and desires. You will get people who want to live a lifestyle consistent with Tasmania. You will get people who dont mind it, and those who would prefer something else but tolerate it for the money or role or whatever. Hobart has over 250k people and is just over an hours flight from Melbourne. It isn't some unpopulated isolated wasteland like Port Headland.

They are professionals aswell. Who train, eat, sleep, families. But the cultural experiences.. blah blah

 

[Toump Ass]

Hobart has over 250k old, illiterate people who are all likely related by blood.

Fixed.

 

[Toump Ass]

They are professionals

Who have a lot more spare time than other professionals.
Only so many times you can go visit Port Arthur IMO.

 

[RUNVS]

People seem to have this archetype of a 20 year old male who wants to party whenever they can. Which I guess must be why the Gold Coast is everyone's destination club.

When there are 20 teams in the competition there will be ~900 listed players, all with their own personality and preferences and desires. You will get people who want to live a lifestyle consistent with Tasmania. You will get people who dont mind it, and those who would prefer something else but tolerate it for the money or role or whatever. Hobart has over 250k people and is just over an hours flight from Melbourne. It isn't some unpopulated isolated wasteland like Port Headland.

Yes, but while all young men don't want to party, how many young men want to live in the middle of no where with very little to do?

 

[Fire]

Yes, but while all young men don't want to party, how many young men want to live in the middle of no where with very little to do?

Have you been there?

Its twice and a half the size of Albury/Woodonga, which isn't exactly happening central, and yet there are plenty of 20 year olds living their lives happily doing plenty of shit up there. Not every weekend calls for a big event. The big draw to cities for people outside of them isn't to avoid the 80 minute flight to see Coldplay. Its because a lot of professional industries are too niche to exist outside of major populations, so it draws them in. What did the world see in the Covid years when remote working became a thing, and people could keep working their high paying niche job from the sticks? There are a TON of people who would be happy to play in a professional footy team in a 'quieter' area.

 

[Toump Ass]

Its twice and a half the size of Albury/Woodonga

 

[randyzany]

Tassis is not analogous to North. North are surrounded by other big clubs, Tassie will have its market to itself in a football orientated market.
The closest comparison is Geelong where the strong local support in a football dominated area means the team has consistent strong support. As you say, I guess we will see.

The biggest difference is that the Melbourne nightlife is about an hour away by car for Geelong players (traffic is a lot lighter late at night) for those that are into that sort of thing, unlike Tassie residents that have to travel by plane (driving to the airport and all the other time consuming tasks that plane travel entails) or ferry that takes around 10 hours, which means Tassie players can't just rock up to Melbourne on a whim. Living in Geelong is not comparable to living in Tassie in regards to having access to Melbourne.

A Geelong fan trying to punch down about other people’s taxes being used to fund a stadium?

VIC taxpayers have spent $500m on your peanut shaped shithole of a ground. All to retain 2 safe Labor seats.

Mainland is paying **** all for the Tassie stadium. The decades of unrelenting debt payments will be on Tasmania to fund. Unless they go bankrupt like VIC and QLD have done under Labor govs and the whole country has to bail them out.

Geelong have a solid supporter base that has proven the club is economically viable and why both governments have invested on funding infrastructure that represents the whole town, not just the Geelong Football Club. Non-Geelong fans seem to think KP belongs to the footy club. It doesn't, it is state property akin to the MCG. Remains to be seen how well Tassie fare in that regard, hopefully they do okay.

With all due respect, regardless of hypothetical movement patterns, the population there is 574,705. Much higher than the region that supports your tinpot club, and less competition for fans than Melbourne clubs.

Roughly 50% of Geelong supporters come from Melbourne (a city of almost 6 million) and therefore there's always potential for growth there if the club continues to be well run and contend for flags as it has for the past 2 decades. Glad to be proven wrong and maybe enough of the Tassie population will get behind them financially by attending games, buying memberships, merchandise and successfully make Tassie economically viable in the long term. Tassie has to rely 100% on just half a million of their population getting behind them though, very different to Geelong's situation.

People seem to have this archetype of a 20 year old male who wants to party whenever they can. Which I guess must be why the Gold Coast is everyone's destination club.

When there are 20 teams in the competition there will be ~900 listed players, all with their own personality and preferences and desires. You will get people who want to live a lifestyle consistent with Tasmania. You will get people who dont mind it, and those who would prefer something else but tolerate it for the money or role or whatever. Hobart has over 250k people and is just over an hours flight from Melbourne. It isn't some unpopulated isolated wasteland like Port Headland.

I'd say only a minority of young AFL players (between 18 and 25) are homebodies, the majority in that age range would be going out regularly to celebrity events, nightclubs, restaurants, etc..

 

[kid_a]

This actually gives more of an argument for starting a team in Tassie not ignoring it, perhaps building the stadium gives:

- People in Hobart a World class stadium to go to and watch AFL and maybe stay in Tassie happily employed.

- AC/DC currently touring Australia, may have considered playing at the venue if it was 2029 instead of 2025.

- The potential to push for more international cricket.

If it is projected natural increase will become neagtive in 2030, perhaps this might help stop or at least slow that from happening.

Plus they might actually get the Socceroos and wallabies game from time to time now also, great advert for Hobart to an international audience of whichever other national team goes there to play

 

[lionbear]

Imagine spending your entire life working towards an AFL career and then having to move to ****ing Hobart LMAO.

Same argument could be said about 5,000 at carrara or the Sydney Showgrounds.

 

[T2B_]

People seem to have this archetype of a 20 year old male who wants to party whenever they can. Which I guess must be why the Gold Coast is everyone's destination club.

When there are 20 teams in the competition there will be ~900 listed players, all with their own personality and preferences and desires. You will get people who want to live a lifestyle consistent with Tasmania. You will get people who dont mind it, and those who would prefer something else but tolerate it for the money or role or whatever. Hobart has over 250k people and is just over an hours flight from Melbourne. It isn't some unpopulated isolated wasteland like Port Headland.

Nailed it. I've always lived in Tassie, and even growing up and when I had a couple mates who were gonna move to the mainland, for me I never wanted to live anywhere else. Going to the mainland was fine for a special trip or holiday for a couple days here and there, but I never wanted to live there.

I certainly wouldn't be alone, while undoubtedly you'll get certain personalities that want the big glitzy high life, I'm sure there will be plenty enough who also appreciate the difference, or just don't mind as long as they're playing AFL footy.

 

[RUNVS]

Same argument could be said about 5,000 at carrara or the Sydney Showgrounds.

You know it is not the same thing. Sydney and Gold Coast have a huge amount to do outside of the game.

 

[RUNVS]

Nailed it. I've always lived in Tassie, and even growing up and when I had a couple mates who were gonna move to the mainland, for me I never wanted to live anywhere else. Going to the mainland was fine for a special trip or holiday for a couple days here and there, but I never wanted to live there.

I certainly wouldn't be alone, while undoubtedly you'll get certain personalities that want the big glitzy high life, I'm sure there will be plenty enough who also appreciate the difference, or just don't mind as long as they're playing AFL footy.

That is fine if you grew up in Tasmania and were used to the lifestyle, but most people in Australia live in cities, so the Tasmanian lifestyle would not be something they have experienced. I imagine Geelong would have a similar problem if the highway between Geelong and Melbourne was suddenly mined.

 

[Orfullrules]

Who have a lot more spare time than other professionals.
Only so many times you can go visit Port Arthur IMO.

Um ok. Keep on toump assing

 

[Gibbke]

How many draftees have knocked back the club that drafted them?

How many players have cited "lifestyle" as their major reason for leaving their club?

How many players are good enough at a young age to have any power over the answers to the first two questions?

Yeah...thought so...if you wanna play, see you in Hobart, young recruits...we know you'll be there...

 

[Upgrayedd]

Judgement is out on that one. I can't believe there are posters here complaining about a stadium when in reality there's no sound business case for a Tassie team at all and Tasmanians should be eternally grateful that all it took was a new stadium with a roof built mostly from taxes paid by mainland residents.

Wouldn't have any issue if Tassie economy was relatively healthy and they had a significant percentage of their young population not absconding to greener pastures in the mainland the moment they turned 18. If your average young Tassie citizen doesn't wanna live in Tassie, good luck convincing wealthy young athletes who are used the night life of one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the Southern Hemisphere to do so.

Victoria is also a Tax welfare state so can you please thank me (A working man from a state which lifts and generates revenue to bailout other failed states) before slagging off another failed state

 

[Toump Ass]

How many players have cited "lifestyle" as their major reason for leaving their club?

Well no one has had the misfortune of being drafted to Tasmania yet..

 

[Verdun]

This forum is hysterical, amount of ignorant claptrap for posters attempting to post attention grabbing rubbish is giving me a laugh.

Tassie has been underestimated for decades and will continue to be. We are fine with that as we understand is based on performance not substance.

Lots of posters on here are posting stuff to get attention and look at me look at me - bit sad really.

The team is being developed by people of substance (CEO Brendon Gale / Derek Hine head of recruiting / etc.).

Tasmania have funded the existence of two AFL clubs (Hawthorn and North Melbourne) it is now time for us to fund our own.

Yep as a state we have our challenges and that will continue - I am proud of this place for where it has come from and for it's potential. There will continue to be conflict and displays of out and out ignorance about who we are but there is also opportunity and we will embrace that.

Bring on the continued displays of ignorance it is good for a laugh.

 

[kid_a]

I wonder what kind of split they're going to do with where the games are.

Surely they'll play some home matches in Launceston?...2 games per season?....3 games per season?

Will the Hawks keep playing home matches in Launceston too?

It'd be cool if both Tassie and Hawthorn both host 2-3 games a year each in Launceston and play each other there twice each year and build up a rivalry ("battle for Yorke Park" or something like that)

 

[Tasmanian saint]

In 3 years this will be an international joke when the half built stadium will have burned through the capped Fed money, capped AFL money and capped Tassie money and noone will be willing to pour any more money into the white elephant.

What a load of crap , I agree they will struggle to build it in budget but this is a state government they will just borrow more money it will not be left half finished this is not just some third world country .

 

[Tasmanian saint]

You joke but this is an issue. I suspect player retention might be a challenge for Tasmania as how many men in their early 20's, interested in going to parties and dating are going to want to live in Tasmania?

It’s personal choice really everyone’s different ,

Even if they don't like to go to parties, what if they like going to museums, or even enjoy going surfing, what if they enjoy going to the ballet or even enjoy racing cars.

All of these things are harder to do in Tasmania than they are in any other state.

How are they harder, We have the most popular museum in the country at Mona , and our surf is as good as any other state probably better apart from the water temperature , world class golf courses great fishing

 

[Tasmanian saint]

I can't imagine surfing is as nice in Tasmania as it is anywhere else, mostly due to the temperature.

Tasmania has the best swells in the country over winter people come from interstate just for the wave so the cold must not worry them to much