Tasmania set to apply for a provisional AFL licence (aiming to enter competition by 2025)

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juss

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We just had every AFL list cut by at least two players, with further cuts likely to come. Likewise lots of talented coaches got cut because of the reduction in the soft cap.

Adding an extra team gives these people their jobs back, and adds an extra 11 games to the fixture, meaning more broadcast $$$.
The Tassie team is 5 years away at least. None of those people are getting their jobs back soon.

In time all those things likely recover anyway as the world eventually heals from COVID, and then we are still in the position of diluted talent with another 40 odd players and a bunch of coaches.
 

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I fully support a team in Tasmania, but I think that 19 teams in the league is a stretch and further dilution of playing and coaching resources.
How does that account for multiple state league players getting drafted this year and several others being unlucky to miss out due to list size reductions? How does it account for the players and coaches who have recently lost their jobs due to list size reductions and soft cap cuts? Or the higher participation rate in Queensland and NSW over the past decade?
 

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How does that account for multiple state league players getting drafted this year and several others being unlucky to miss out due to list size reductions? How does it account for the players and coaches who have recently lost their jobs due to list size reductions and soft cap cuts? Or the higher participation rate in Queensland and NSW over the past decade?
A lot of players drafted are often not good enough, and it shows up in time. I just think dilution of the product once list sizes are back to normal in a few years (which they likely will be by the time a Tassie team as a 19th licence got added) is overall a poorer spectacle.

It's a simple numbers game, 19 teams vs 18 teams, there's only so much top end talent to go around.

I'm not against a Tassie licence, the opposite, get it done. I just don't want it to be a 19th team as opposed to an 18th licence based on an adjustment. I know that adjustment isn't likely, but it doesn't change my view that all things considered I think it would be better for the comp.
 

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A lot of players drafted are often not good enough, and it shows up in time. I just think dilution of the product once list sizes are back to normal in a few years (which they likely will be by the time a Tassie team as a 19th licence got added) is overall a poorer spectacle.
That's a big assumption. What if clubs find they do just fine with a smaller list and the AFL keeps the number of players where it is? Has the product lost quality in the time since Gold Coast and GWS joined? How do you quantify that as a measure, because plenty of people will have opinions either way?

It's a simple numbers game, 19 teams vs 18 teams, there's only so much top end talent to go around.
What makes you so sure there isn't enough talent at present?
 

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I fully support a team in Tasmania, but I think that 19 teams in the league is a stretch and further dilution of playing and coaching resources.
We already diluted the talent by so many expansions. In itself it is not a big enough negative compared to the wonderful positive of finally have a true club from Tasmania represented in this league. Also the 19th team is not as big an issue for fixturing now they tend to program a lot more Monday games. At the moment we have 18 clubs times 2 having byes across 24 weekends/rounds. So 36 byes across 24 weeks. 38 byes across 24 weeks is not really a major problem given we have 36 already.
 

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We already diluted the talent by so many expansions. In itself it is not a big enough negative compared to the wonderful positive of finally have a true club from Tasmania represented in this league. Also the 19th team is not as big an issue for fixturing now they tend to program a lot more Monday games. At the moment we have 18 clubs times 2 having byes across 24 weekends/rounds. So 36 byes across 24 weeks. 38 byes across 24 weeks is not really a major problem given we have 36 already.
Really? The Nations population has grown. Despite the investment in elite player development, when have we ever had enough quality players?

Never, because people always moan about it & expect everyone who pulls on a boot to be a champion. Its never happened in the past & it never will in the future.
 

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Go to 16 a side, less congestion, less players on a list (-4 per club), less money spent of player salaries and those 70 odd players can be split into the two new clubs. That being said i would prefer a victorian club relocated to stay at 18 as once you get too many clubs it means more teams stuck in the wilderness at the bottom of the ladder for longer.
 
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Anyone hear Kennett on local Tasmanian radio this morning? Haven't heard a bloke yell so much. He was having a go at the author of the last report in to Tas having a team as having a conflict of interest as he has interests in tourism business here ohhh the irony.

Does Kennett have any conflict of interest when giving his opinion - he does not want a team here as this would stop Tas from funding Hawthorn.
Nobody takes Kennett seriously on anything. He’s just a dial-a-quote. Best ignored.
 

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Go to 16 a side, less congestion, less players on a list (-4 per club), less money spent of player salaries and those 70 odd players can be split into the two new clubs. That being said i would prefer a victorian club relocated to stay at 18 as once you get too many clubs it means more teams stuck in the wilderness at the bottom of the ladder for longer.
Agree 100% about 16 a side and it would save at least $20 million PA but I fear the AFL is too stupid/pigheaded to do it anytime soon.I also think 19 clubs is a foolish idea!
 

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Yep a failed politician motor mouth is just looking for attention! Poor thing.
Its good that he comes out with his 'POV'. It shows his agenda.

Purely club interest. No interest in the situation football is in here, after 20 years of FIFO clubs & AFL neglect of the very game it purports to care about.
 

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Go to 16 a side, less congestion, less players on a list (-4 per club), less money spent of player salaries and those 70 odd players can be split into the two new clubs. That being said i would prefer a victorian club relocated to stay at 18 as once you get too many clubs it means more teams stuck in the wilderness at the bottom of the ladder for longer.
Tasmanian Bombers sounds good to me. Not sure how Tasmania feels about that.
 

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Two things here:

1. Kennett knows the Tasmania days are over with the current agreement. The Tas government will have other priorities with a weakened fiscal position post COVID and a deal like this to support tourism looks more like a luxury every day. Attendances have been decreasing year on year, so the locals are voting with their wallets too.

2. If Kennett really tried to lead a relocation of the team, the members would have him out on his ear very quickly.
 

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Two things here:

1. Kennett knows the Tasmania days are over with the current agreement. The Tas government will have other priorities with a weakened fiscal position post COVID and a deal like this to support tourism looks more like a luxury every day. Attendances have been decreasing year on year, so the locals are voting with their wallets too.

2. If Kennett really tried to lead a relocation of the team, the members would have him out on his ear very quickly.

Pure theatrics from Kennett, he does not give a rats about Tas.
 

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