Tasmania set to apply for a provisional AFL licence (aiming to enter competition by 2025)

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The bottom line is that an AFL club in Tasmania is worth a lot more to the state of Tasmania than it is to the AFL[Incorrect]
Refer to my posts 1250, 937 & 874. A 19th Tasmanian team entry into the AFL would add an extra 11 H & A games pa; & would be worth tens of millions pa+ for the AFL (particularly if 11 extra Thur. night Prime Time games were added, as is likely- big broadcast $).

GWS & GC have very modest home crowds & ratings (Initially, the Tas. team would surpass them). Despite this, the value of adding GC & GWS (and 1 extra game pw) has been estimated recently to have an annual worth for the AFL (which includes indirect benefits for the AFL) of :-

. $54,000,000 per annum- AFL Commission Chairman R. Goyder

. $60,000,000 per annum- GWS CEO D. Matthews

. $54,000,000 per annum- Unidentified AFL official, quoted by award-winning journalist C. Le Grand

Other indirect financial benefits accrue to the AFL (by increasing AFL's crowds/ratings/GR player nos. etc, more AFL free MSM publicity etc) if the goldmine of Tasmanian champions & stars is revived.
The value created by the fabled exploits of these Tas. champions, stars & great players don't appear on the Balance Sheets, or the Profit & Loss Statements- but the value is very real & important.

T.Johnson Baldock Howell Stewart Lawrence Bonney Hart Sproule Hudson M. Walker Croswell P.Jones M.Armstrong Sutton Conlan Wright Eade Greening Minton-Connel B &M Gale Lovell Lynch R.Robertson Roach C.Robertson Barwick Neal Pritchard Clayton B.Greene R.Shaw A.Fletcher P.Hudson J.Mc Carthy Febey P.Williams Atkins B&J Rawlings Holland Neitz G.Lyon M.Richardson N&J Riewoldt B.Brown Howe Birchall M.Robinson & others.

The AFL estimated the recruitment of Hunt & Folau was worth c. $7,500,000 each in free MSM coverage generated for the AFL.

As Tim Lane has stated, in the 1960's, Tasmania was often competitive with WA & SA (& Tas. defeated Vic. in 1960)- but is now "eons" behind WA & SA. This disgrace is the result of VFL/AFL carpetbagging of Tas., the destruction caused to its statewide comp./its prestige & the severe damage to its elite pathways.

Everyone accepts that placing AFL teams in NSW & Qld. have provided a huge boost for the AFL, & extraordinary growth for GR AF in NSW & Qld.
The corollary is the reverse also applies: NOT having an AFL team in a state inexorably leads to AF underperformance and/or decline.
 
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Refer to my posts 1250, 937 & 874. A 19th Tasmanian team entry into the AFL would add an extra 11 H & A games pa; & would be worth tens of millions pa+ for the AFL (particularly if 11 extra Thur. night Prime Time games were added, as is likely- big broadcast $).

GWS & GC have very modest home crowds & ratings (Initially, the Tas. team would surpass them). Despite this, the value of adding GC & GWS (and 1 extra game pw) has been estimated recently to have an annual worth for the AFL (which includes indirect benefits for the AFL) of :-

. $54,000,000 per annum- AFL Commission Chairman R. Goyder

. $60,000,000 per annum- GWS CEO D. Matthews

. $54,000,000 per annum- Unidentified AFL official, quoted by award-winning journalist C. Le Grand

We don't know that to be true, BBT. We know the TV rights went up by ~$180M and we have claims by those wanting to sell a positive story about the expansion that it contributed up to a third of that increase

To the extent it is accurate it would probably be due to enabling the AFL to have 5.5 games subscription only rather than 4.5.

There is simply no basis to suggest that a Tasmanian team is going to result in a significant step change in funding

Other indirect financial benefits accrue to the AFL (by increasing AFL's crowds/ratings/GR player nos. etc, more AFL free MSM publicity etc) if the goldmine of Tasmanian champions & stars is revived.
The value created by the fabled exploits of these Tas. champions, stars & great players don't appear on the Balance Sheets, or the Profit & Loss Statements- but the value is very real & important.

T.Johnson Baldock Howell Stewart Lawrence Bonney Hart Sproule Hudson M. Walker Croswell P.Jones M.Armstrong Sutton Conlan Wright Eade Greening Minton-Connel B &M Gale Lovell Lynch R.Robertson Roach C.Robertson Barwick Neal Pritchard Clayton B.Greene R.Shaw A.Fletcher P.Hudson J.Mc Carthy Febey P.Williams Atkins B&J Rawlings Holland Neitz G.Lyon M.Richardson N&J Riewoldt B.Brown Howe Birchall M.Robinson & others.

The AFL estimated the recruitment of Hunt & Folau was worth c. $7,500,000 each in free MSM coverage generated for the AFL.

As Tim Lane has stated, in the 1960's, Tasmania was often competitive with WA & SA (& Tas. defeated Vic. in 1960)- but is now "eons" behind WA & SA. This disgrace is the result of VFL/AFL carpetbagging of Tas., the destruction caused to its statewide comp./its prestige & the severe damage to its elite pathways.

Everyone accepts that placing AFL teams in NSW & Qld. have provided a huge boost for the AFL, & extraordinary growth for GR AF in NSW & Qld.
The corollary is the reverse also applies: NOT having an AFL team in a state inexorably leads to AF underperformance and/or decline.
Having an AFL club in tasmania would no doubt have a positive impact on the grass roots and certainly the elite pathway in that state. The fact that Tasmania produces a smaller share of players nowadays is overwhelmingly due to having a far smaller relative population than what it had 50 years ago.
 

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Victoria gains, but Vic clubs still have massive AFL taxes (AFL members, stadium deals, etc) which go towards funding other states (including Tas)

No, support in Vic isn't divided equally, but even the small clubs gain from being in a larger market in ways a Tas team wouldn't....Tas wont be hosting another local team in around half their home games for example.

I've suggested on several occasions adding 2 more WA teams. I'm even OK with adding another SA team.
Massive taxes?

TasAFL get something around $2mil. With at least 50k AFL members at say at a basic $100 each, that's about $5mil minimum to start with going the other way.

I see the club finances with the bottom few getting some large amounts to keep them afloat.

So apart from what we see in the club finances, what are these 'gains; from being in a larger market that Tassie wouldn't? Please explain.

I think it more likely Victoria has gained a lot out of the current set up. Certainly a massive amount more pro rata than Tasmania ever has.
 

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I'm going to enjoy seeing Telsor absolutely spewing when the Tassie side enters the competition - followed by the inevitable decades of carping about why it should never have happened.
 

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Refer to my posts 1250, 937 & 874. A 19th Tasmanian team entry into the AFL would add an extra 11 H & A games pa; & would be worth tens of millions pa+ for the AFL (particularly if 11 extra Thur. night Prime Time games were added, as is likely- big broadcast $).

GWS & GC have very modest home crowds & ratings (Initially, the Tas. team would surpass them). Despite this, the value of adding GC & GWS (and 1 extra game pw) has been estimated recently to have an annual worth for the AFL (which includes indirect benefits for the AFL) of :-

. $54,000,000 per annum- AFL Commission Chairman R. Goyder

. $60,000,000 per annum- GWS CEO D. Matthews

. $54,000,000 per annum- Unidentified AFL official, quoted by award-winning journalist C. Le Grand
Again with this entirely invented "indirect benefits" rubbish. Its not a quote from Goyder, its stated underneath a quote from Goyder that its an AFL belief as part of its media rights, and nothing about indirect anything.

Other indirect financial benefits accrue to the AFL (by increasing AFL's crowds/ratings/GR player nos. etc, more AFL free MSM publicity etc) if the goldmine of Tasmanian champions & stars is revived.
AFL crowd averages will drop some. Ratings averages will drop - televised matches into tasmania will attract 3/10s of bugger all on a regional broadcast that will rarely be seen anywhere else - and the hassle of broadcasting these games will likely cost the League money - and the AFL isnt exactly starved of mainstream publicity in Tasmania as it is. Lay off the melodrama.

The value created by the fabled exploits of these Tas. champions, stars & great players don't appear on the Balance Sheets, or the Profit & Loss Statements- but the value is very real & important.

T.Johnson Baldock Howell Stewart Lawrence Bonney Hart Sproule Hudson M. Walker Croswell P.Jones M.Armstrong Sutton Conlan Wright Eade Greening Minton-Connel B &M Gale Lovell Lynch R.Robertson Roach C.Robertson Barwick Neal Pritchard Clayton B.Greene R.Shaw A.Fletcher P.Hudson J.Mc Carthy Febey P.Williams Atkins B&J Rawlings Holland Neitz G.Lyon M.Richardson N&J Riewoldt B.Brown Howe Birchall M.Robinson & others.
And yet hasnt apparently helped to this point.

The AFL estimated the recruitment of Hunt & Folau was worth c. $7,500,000 each in free MSM coverage generated for the AFL.
Due primarily to the controversy in NSW and Queensland over the recruitment in a media market worth far more than anything in Tasmania. This isnt going to be replicated again, particularly in a media market that is tiny.

As Tim Lane has stated, in the 1960's, Tasmania was often competitive with WA & SA (& Tas. defeated Vic. in 1960)- but is now "eons" behind WA & SA. This disgrace is the result of VFL/AFL carpetbagging of Tas., the destruction caused to its statewide comp./its prestige & the severe damage to its elite pathways.
yeah its all the fault of the AFL that tasmanias football exonomy couldnt pay its players enough to stop them migrating interstate. Its the fault of the AFL tat the fragmented Tasmanian football landscape failed to manage itself leading to an afl takeover - which didnt happen until 2011.

Everyone accepts that placing AFL teams in NSW & Qld. have provided a huge boost for the AFL, & extraordinary growth for GR AF in NSW & Qld.
The corollary is the reverse also applies: NOT having an AFL team in a state inexorably leads to AF underperformance and/or decline.
The ebbs and flows of recruiting are shown almost every year when folks in one state or another notice they have one or two recruits in much larger competitions and populations than anything in Tasmania. One almost wonders what the recruiting is like per head of population in each state.
 

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its more that crowds the same size as what they get in Tasmania dont generate income in Melbourne due to venue costs, but whatevs.
You answer your own question of co
Again with this entirely invented "indirect benefits" rubbish. Its not a quote from Goyder, its stated underneath a quote from Goyder that its an AFL belief as part of its media rights, and nothing about indirect anything.



AFL crowd averages will drop some. Ratings averages will drop - televised matches into tasmania will attract 3/10s of bugger all on a regional broadcast that will rarely be seen anywhere else - and the hassle of broadcasting these games will likely cost the League money - and the AFL isnt exactly starved of mainstream publicity in Tasmania as it is. Lay off the melodrama.



And yet hasnt apparently helped to this point.



Due primarily to the controversy in NSW and Queensland over the recruitment in a media market worth far more than anything in Tasmania. This isnt going to be replicated again, particularly in a media market that is tiny.



yeah its all the fault of the AFL that tasmanias football exonomy couldnt pay its players enough to stop them migrating interstate. Its the fault of the AFL tat the fragmented Tasmanian football landscape failed to manage itself leading to an afl takeover - which didnt happen until 2011.



The ebbs and flows of recruiting are shown almost every year when folks in one state or another notice they have one or two recruits in much larger competitions and populations than anything in Tasmania. One almost wonders what the recruiting is like per head of population in each state.
mate you really don’t know much about Tasmanian football yes the afl took over running the game in 2011 I suggest you do a bit of research on a bloke named Robert auld the brother of Travis who is second in charge at the AFL they thought it would be a good idea to send him down here and put him in charge the guy was a sales rep for pura milk 😂 had no sports administration experience whatsoever the guy ran our state league into the ground with some atrocious decisions our two northwest clubs folded and he removed transfer fees so interstate clubs could recruit players from our leagues with out having to pay t fees then took of back to Melbourne leaving a huge mess behind so if you think the afl have done nothing to harm Tassie football this decade your way of the mark !
 

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You answer your own question of co

mate you really don’t know much about Tasmanian football yes the afl took over running the game in 2011 I suggest you do a bit of research on a bloke named Robert auld the brother of Travis who is second in charge at the AFL they thought it would be a good idea to send him down here and put him in charge the guy was a sales rep for pura milk 😂 had no sports administration experience whatsoever the guy ran our state league into the ground with some atrocious decisions our two northwest clubs folded and he removed transfer fees so interstate clubs could recruit players from our leagues with out having to pay t fees then took of back to Melbourne leaving a huge mess behind so if you think the afl have done nothing to harm Tassie football this decade your way of the mark !
Im well aware who Robert Auld is and when he arrived in Tasmania. And I didnt say anything about the post AFL takeover years - because most of the damage was done before that.
 

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Im well aware who Robert Auld is and when he arrived in Tasmania. And I didnt say anything about the post AFL takeover years - because most of the damage was done before that.
There was mismanagement well before the afl had taken over I don’t disagree with you there but make no mistake mate Robert auld took it to a completely new level with some atrocious management the two north west clubs leaving the comp was 100% his doing I don’t think you realise in the slightest how unqualified incompetent this guy was !
 

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Can they handle a professional team? Look at the Hobart Devils in the NBL? No A-League team. Just stuff all with them in any professional sport (Cricket doesn't count as its a state comp). It's a shame the AFL won't give them a handout like they did to GWS and Gold Coast who give 2 stuffs about the game
Geelong had an NBL team. It went the way of the Devils, yet Geelong can manage an AFL team. I wonder what that says.

Melbourne has been through a list of NBL teams. They ended up with just one. Then an Indian guy put a heap in to make up another franchise!!.

Maybe the rollercoaster history of the NBL isn't much of an example to go by, aye????

Anyway, if the 'Corporate' suits at AFL HQ acquiesce to having a Tasmanian AFL team, I bet you they won't let anyone at AFLTas get the boot studders job, let alone mix the orange juice for the team. They'll get some people who can actually think.
 

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Yes AFLTas are a basketcase. Also why the Tasmanian Devils VFL side went bust. The way the AFL throws them bones by giving them a couple of games a year is laughable. It's like Hobart or Launceston are like Shanghai or something. Might as well not go there
AFLTas are the AFL local office. They do as they're told by those who pay their wages.

The Tassie devils did well until the decision to amalgamate with North Melbourne. That, combined with the ' professional management skills' of the afore said mentioned AFLTas, sealed its fate.

So we went back to the future with State League 2, now through to VFL 2 soon to come.

No wonder the footy public are so dizzy down here, Its a crazy 'merry go round' I tells ya!!

(PS, the definition of insanity is to do the same thing repeatedly & expect a different outcome. ;))
 

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Im all for robust debate on the merits of the side in Tasmania, the economics thereof and other such constructive discussion.
Dont launch into personal attacks. They will be deleted.
 

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1. The Age 24.11 J.Niall

This thread is as good as any to include this sociological phenomenon re AFL draftees.

Private schools in Melb. (45% of all year 12 students in Vic. attend a private school) have increased their arms race/professionalism & raised the intensity of their ferocious AF school competitions- for "prestige & glory". Many believe the competition is excessive. They are starting to dominate AFL recruitment.

My understanding is that Tasmanian private schools do not devote similar time, resources & moneys to elite AF development. Nor do Tas. private schools seek the same AF "prestige & glory". These sociological changes are, therefore, having a negative effect on the no. of Tas. AFL draftees.

From the 1880's (when most workers started to have Sat. afternoon off work) until c. 20 years ago, AF was regarded as, primarily, a working class passion, especially concerning VFL/VFA/AFL recruitment
All classes, however, had a strong interest in AF in Vic., WA, SA, Tas., Sthn. NSW & NT.

In the rest of NSW, ACT & Qld., the strong growth in GR AF is regarded by many as, generally, an Anglo-Celtic middle class & affluent pursuit.

What are the long term consequences of players from working class & Govt. schools backgrounds losing their dominance in AFL recruitment, & over representation of private schools? The Catholic system (c. 23% of year 12 students in Vic.), however, has many working class families, & many AFL recruits.



The Age J. Niall 1.12.2013

The increasing AFL draftee trend from private schools was also discussed in this article.



EDIT:

M.Lloyd's defence of the significant rise in players drafted from private schools.


Carey Grammar's top 2 draft picks, for 2 days, have made the front & back pages of the Melb. Sun & The Age/prominence on MSM TV & radio etc. Worth millions $ for Carey directly- & private schools indirectly?

2. The Age D. Cherny 18.11

A further snapshot of the ignominy to which Tasmanian GF AF & its "elite pathways"(sic) have descended.
It appears only 1 Tasmanian might be drafted in 2019- Mitch O'Neill.

"Some clubs don't rate him, but one said they had him falling around pick 40".

"This isn't just about him, his club or his family. It's about his state".


This is the shame of the AFL.
 
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1. The Age 24.11 J.Niall

This thread is as good as any to include this sociological phenomenon re AFL draftees.

Private schools in Melb. (45% of all year 12 students in Vic. attend a private school) have increased their arms race/professionalism & raised the intensity of their ferocious AF school competitions- for "prestige & glory". Many believe the competition is excessive. They are starting to dominate AFL recruitment.

My understanding is that Tasmanian private schools do not devote similar time, resources & moneys to elite AF development. Nor do Tas. private schools seek the same AF "prestige & glory". These sociological changes are, therefore, having a negative effect on the no. of Tas. AFL draftees.

From the 1880's (when most workers started to have at least Sat. afternoon off work) until c. 20 years ago, AF was regarded as, primarily, a working class passion, especially concerning VFL/VFA/AFL recruitment
All classes, however, had a strong interest in AF in Vic., WA, SA, Tas., Sthn. NSW & NT.

In the rest of NSW, ACT & Qld., the strong growth in GR AF is regarded by many as, generally, an Anglo-Celtic middle class & affluent pursuit.

What are the long term consequences of players from working class backgrounds losing their dominance in AFL recruitment/over representation of private schools?



The Age J. Niall 1.12.2013

The increasing AFL draftee trend from private schools was also discussed in this article.



2. The Age D. Cherny 18.11

A further snapshot of the ignominy to which Tasmanian GF AF & its "elite pathways"(sic) have descended.
It appears only 1 Tasmanian might be drafted in 2019- Mitch O'Neill.

"Some clubs don't rate him, but one said they had him falling around pick 40".

"This isn't just about him, his club or his family. It's about his state".


This is the shame of the AFL.
This probably explains the AFL's poor efforts regards community footy.

AFL HQ is full of private schoolboy suits so want to keep it all in 'the club'.

They don't realise the problem of limiting the gene pool in the chances of 'lesser' privileged' kids getting a look in.

Its also destructive to the health of the actual game as a part of the social fabric of communities, towns & suburbs.

Maybe Tassie is best to leave the AFL to the 'rah rahs'. They've certainly done a great job with Rugby. ;)
 

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Yes an interesting read.

'cart before the horse' is about right, but worth a thought at this stage.

I think the local & Federal politics will favour York park. In all honesty, that's about all that favours it. Its a town that has things to offer the tourist & aspects of lifestyle, but limited IMHO.

Really, the most obvious choice should be the much larger Hobart with its better overall facilities & lifestyle choices. I've noted this above.

Anyway, we wait. Not baited breath, I could say.

It'll be, what it'll be. ;)
 

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Yes an interesting read.

'cart before the horse' is about right, but worth a thought at this stage.

I think the local & Federal politics will favour York park. In all honesty, that's about all that favours it. Its a town that has things to offer the tourist & aspects of lifestyle, but limited IMHO.

Really, the most obvious choice should be the much larger Hobart with its better overall facilities & lifestyle choices. I've noted this above.

Anyway, we wait. Not baited breath, I could say.

It'll be, what it'll be. ;)
Yes an interesting read.

'cart before the horse' is about right, but worth a thought at this stage.

I think the local & Federal politics will favour York park. In all honesty, that's about all that favours it. Its a town that has things to offer the tourist & aspects of lifestyle, but limited IMHO.

Really, the most obvious choice should be the much larger Hobart with its better overall facilities & lifestyle choices. I've noted this above.

Anyway, we wait. Not baited breath, I could say.

It'll be, what it'll be. ;)
Knowing what the people are like up here in the north,they will do everything possible to make sure it's based in Launceston,I believe it should be based in Hobart,partly because it is where most of the growth is.
 

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Again with this entirely invented "indirect benefits" rubbish.[No- refer to my posts 874, 937 & 1250 above]
AFL crowd averages will drop some[Quantum will rise].
And yet hasnt apparently helped to this point. [Exactly! The former, fabled Tas. recruitment goldmine has ONLY helped, long term, the VFL & AFL! Shame!]
Due primarily to the controversy in NSW and Queensland over the recruitment in a media market worth far more than anything in Tasmania. This isnt going to be replicated again, particularly in a media market that is tiny.[Tas. champions, if based in NSW & Qld., can generate more free MSM over a career than the short term Folau & Hunt duds who generated $7,500,000 each in free MSM publicity for the AFL]
Respected journalists wrote recently that the annual value of GC & GWS creating 1 extra game pw was valued by D. Matthews (direct quote) at $60,000,000 per annum; R. Goyder, the interviewee, was the logical implied source of the $54,000,000 annual value for the 9th game; C. Le Grand did not identify the "AFL" official who advised him the 9th game was worth $54,000,000 per annum- he is an award winning journalist & author.

I believe these extra annual amounts are indirect benefits, because GC & GWS local ratings & crowds are small.
These annual amounts, for 22 extra games pa, greatly assist the bid for a 19th team in Tasmania, as it will add 11 extra games pa for the AFL.

Assume all 11 Tasmanian games are played during the day on Saturday or Sunday. Also, to avoid concurrent games with Tasmanian home games, 11 Docklands daytime weekend games will cease, & be transferred to Thur. night. This will create an extra 11 Docklands Thurs. night games.

What additional broadcast rights (assuming there is parity with the current ratings & broadcast rights $) can the AFL expect by creating 11 extra Thur. night Prime Time games from 2025?

Tasmania is over-represented in The AFL Team O The Century & The AFL Hall OF Fame- & has produced many champions & stars.
Do you believe it is a huge loss for the AFL that this former Tasmanian recruitment gold mine of champions & stars has collapsed?
And if so, how do you believe the Tasmanian VFL/AFL recruitment goldmine, & particularly the many champions & stars etc. it produced, can be restored?

Why do you think Tas. Draft nos., & Tas. AFL game crowd nos., have declined so greatly recently?
 
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Respected journalists wrote recently that the annual value of GC & GWS creating 1 extra game pw was valued by D. Matthews (direct quote) at $60,000,000 per annum; R. Goyder, the interviewee, was the logical implied source of the $54,000,000 annual value for the 9th game; C. Le Grand did not identify the "AFL" official who advised him the 9th game was worth $54,000,000 per annum- he is an award winning journalist & author.

I believe these extra annual amounts are indirect benefits, because GC & GWS local ratings & crowds are small.
These annual amounts, for 22 extra games pa, greatly assist the bid for a 19th team in Tasmania, as it will add 11 extra games pa for the AFL.

Assume all 11 Tasmanian games are played during the day on Saturday or Sunday. Also, to avoid concurrent games with Tasmanian home games, 11 Docklands daytime weekend games will cease, & be transferred to Thur. night. This will create an extra 11 Docklands Thurs. night games.

What additional broadcast rights (assuming there is parity with the current ratings & broadcast rights $) can the AFL expect by creating 11 extra Thur. night Prime Time games from 2025?

How do you believe the Tasmanian VFL/AFL recruitment goldmine, & particularly the many champions & stars etc. it produced, can be restored?

Why do you think Tas. Draft nos., & Tas. AFL game crowd nos., have declined so greatly recently?
BBT, you are like the failed prototype at the start of robocop that shoots that guy after he puts the gun down

You keep repeating the same things over and over again without any discursive responsive to anything people respond with. Why should anyone bother ?
 
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1. SEN Radio 26.11

Further reports that G. McLachlan is likely to depart the AFL at the end of 2020.
C.Wilson believes that B.Gale is best suited for the AFL CEO job, but Mc Lachlan probably prefers Essendon CEO X. Campbell.
Wilson said "Anyone you talk to at the AFL, or most people, have felt ...that Gale is the successor".

Tasmania would hope, obviously, that Gale (who is pro a Tasmanian 19th team- see post #1321) is the replacement. AFAIK, Campbell hasn't made any public comments about a Tasmanian team.


The H./Sun reported in Nov.2019 that Campbell is likely to join the AFL Executive early in 2019 to manage Docklands Stadium.

Campbell is only 39 y.o, which might be a factor against him; also, he has been employed by EFC since 2009, & was EFC CEO since Jan. 2014- will he be tainted by the drug scandal?
In contrast, Gale is 51, an ex AFL player, & was the AFLPA Chief- the same route as A. Demetriou to join the AFL.

Since the 1970's & the Aylett/Hamilton era, most VFL/AFL Chairmen & CEO's have been ex-senior elite players (W. Jackson played 71 games in the SANFL for West Torrens, & was also their President. Campbell played for Sturt).
IIRC (excluding R. Goyder becoming Commission Chairman), there have been very few years since the 70's when both the concurrent VFL/AFL Chairman & CEO have never been VFL/AFL players. These trends would support Gale being appointed AFL CEO.


2. SEN Radio Melb. T. Gossage program 26.11

Georgie Maynard, Director of True North market research company, has said that Geelong is the no.1 rated club in the AFL, when examining fans' emotional commitment to their club.

(Go to 4 minutes 20 second mark to 5 mins.45 seconds)

"True North measures people's connections to over 100 teams, including 15 national sides, 12 leagues and each of those properties' sponsors...This Study is incredibly important because the emotional connection of fans to sport has a direct commercial impact (my emphases) on teams, leagues and sponsors, influencing everything from membership sales through to major sponsorship".


Hobart Hurricanes BBL, a small market team similar to Geelong FC, is rated the no. 2 team out of the list of 100, for fan emotional connections- very impressive.

(Go to 8 minutes 40 seconds to 9 minutes 5 seconds mark)

This True North research bodes well for the selection & success of a Tasmanian AFL team- & would make its sponsors happy!
 
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The business case for a tasmanian AFL team will be delivered to the state government by the second week of December,although the details will not be released to the public until the new year.
 
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