Tasmania set to apply for a provisional AFL licence (aiming to enter competition by 2025)

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Kwality

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Could a 19 round season (ie 27 less games) be offset in a media rights sense by 19 thursday night games?
and perhaps additional friday night final for what they call a wildcard game?
Wildcard would throw travel a curve ball.

Will members pay the same money for less>
 

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It might be one event per team if it drops from 11 to 10 home games.
I was taking the pyss

The AFL would need to renegotiate several long term contracts from the weak negotiating position of having little to compensate with beyond poorer access terms
 

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People underestimate just how important matchday is to AFL club revenues. The only way they're getting away with less home games is if they charge the same amount for memberships and corporate packages and more for single game tickets. And I reckon people won't cop that and crowds will reduce as a result.

Never mind 7 and Fox will be pissed off.

And just confirming, this is all about a Hagdorn report?
 

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1. The Mercury 4.12

Hawthorn (& NMFC?) is challenging T. Lane's apparent views that Tasmanian c. $75,000,000+ total taxpayer funding for Hawthorn & NMFC would be more effectively spent (in terms of the Tasmanian AF Disaster) on improving & promoting GR AF & AF structures within Tasmania.

(behind a paywall- can anyone open?)


2. D. Barrett, who should have a good understanding of the AFL's current priorities as he is the main reporter on the AFL's own website, obliquely refers to the AFL's increased interest in expanding AF in Tasmania.

"While it was Gold Coast last time, it is Tasmania this time, when it comes to the AFL's geographical plans"


I think there is virtually zero chance of NMFC relocating to Tasmania. It is financially sound, & the members would overwhelmingly reject it (as they did when it was suggested that NMFC- when it had some major problems in 2008- should relocate to the GC).
Also, the Tas. govt. & fans want their own team, with a jumper having the famous map, & myrtle green, gold & primrose colours.
 
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1. The Mercury 4.12

Hawthorn (& NMFC?) is challenging T. Lane's apparent views that Tasmanian c. $75,000,000+ total taxpayer funding for Hawthorn & NMFC would be more effectively spent (in terms of the Tasmanian AF Disaster) on improving & promoting AF structures within Tasmania.

(behind a paywall- can anyone open?)


2. D. Barrett, who should have a good understanding of the AFL's current priorities, as he is the main reporter on the AFL's own website, obliquely refers to the AFL's increased interest in expanding AF in Tasmania.

"While it was Gold Coast last time, it is Tasmania this time, when it comes to the AFL's geographical plans"


I think there is virtually zero chance of NMFC relocating to Tasmania. It is financially sound, & the members would overwhelmingly reject it (as they did when it was suggested that NMFC- when it had some major problems in 2008- should relocate to the GC).
Also, the Tas. govt. & fans want their own team, with a jumper having the famous map, & myrtle green, gold & primrose colours.
I think (hope) the AFL would dismiss the self interest of both NM & Hawthorn in any decision they make.

I'm not so sure any Tas team should wear what was/is a purely state representative jumper.

I think a predominantly dark green jumper would be great. Maybe with some black or grey. Others may have a better view on that.
 

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I think (hope) the AFL would dismiss the self interest of both NM & Hawthorn in any decision they make.

I'm not so sure any Tas team should wear what was/is a purely state representative jumper.

I think a predominantly dark green jumper would be great. Maybe with some black or grey. Others may have a better view on that.
The problem for the AFL is they may be asked to pick up the shortfall.
Imagine the Hawks without Tas being pushed to give pokies the sars (no Hawks fans I'm not criticising your very well run/professional club, reckon you've done a great job in Tas but its time to go).

Guernsey, loved all the State jumpers, shame WA has always had problems settling on one. IF the State jumper works for Tas, go for it.
 

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1. The Mercury 4.12

Hawthorn is attacking T. Lane over his criticism of it & NMFC. HFC is also claiming it is "...supporting community football" in Tasmania (but no details given)!

(then go to twitter 6.12, & click on "Hawthorn's Shirtfront Response to Tim Lane" article)


2. T. Lanes report to the Tasmanian govt. on 26.7.19 is an excellent summary of how Tasmanian AF has been severely damaged by the depredations of the VFL & AFL.
These historical wrongs can only be righted by it having its own team- so GR AF has the "necessary tools" & glamour to fight back, & challenge the booming, record soccer & basketball regd. player nos. in Tas.

Interestingly, Lane writes:-

. re C. Wilson, who "...revealed a figure which the naysayers would prefer remain hidden. It was this: the number of Tasmanians who are currently paid up members of AFL clubs is 91,000".
(Was this 91,000 figure really hidden until recently, by whom & why?
Also, the AFL revealed, for the first time AFAIK in 2018, c. 50,000 people living in Tasmania were AFL club members. Why the delay in releasing this crucial info.?)

. Footscray Chairman P. Gordon said, re the viability of a Tasmanian AFL team "There's now no economic case against it. The challenge for Tasmania is to ensure that the settings are in place to support the state's otherwise compelling arguments for an AFL team".



3. It has been previously reported that Tasmanian B. Gale, RFC CEO, is an overwhelming favourite to replace G. McLachlan as AFL CEO (who is likely to depart the AFL at the end of 2020)- but C. Wilson said that X. Campbell, EFC CEO, might be favoured by McLachlan, & might soon become Docklands Manager.
Gale appears to publicly support the imminent Tasmanian 19th team entry (see post #1321).

However, in good news for the Tasmanian Bid, The Age has reported that X. Campbell has informed EFC that he wishes to remain as EFC CEO, in a "long term decision".

(paywall)


4. The remote Kimberley region, sparsely populated, in NW WA is becoming an AFL recruitment phenomenon.
Halls Creek district, population 3000, has alone provided a total 9 AFL drafted players.

What comparisons & lessons can be drawn from it, when Tasmania gets its own team?

 
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4. The remote Kimberley region, sparsely populated, in NW WA is becoming an AFL recruitment phenomenon.
Halls Creek, population 3000, has alone provided 9 AFL drafted players.

What comparisons & lessons can be drawn from it, when Tasmania gets its own team?

Clearly must be because of the Kimberley team in the AFL right?
 

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. re C. Wilson, who "...revealed a figure which the naysayers would prefer remain hidden. It was this: the number of Tasmanians who are currently paid up members of AFL clubs is 91,000".
(Was this 91,000 figure really hidden until recently, by whom & why?
Also, the AFL revealed, for the first time AFAIK in 2018, c. 50,000 people living in Tasmania were AFL club members. Why the delay in releasing this crucial info.?)
So they added 40 000 members in a year?
 

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So they added 40 000 members in a year?[No]
As per my post #1419, the AFL have said (probably the first time it has ever provided any details on this) in 2018 there are c.50,000 Tasmanians living in Tasmania, who are members of AFL clubs.
The 91,000 figure, originally provided by C. Wilson which T. Lane alludes to, is "... the number of Tasmanians who are currently paid up members of AFL clubs". AFAIK, no details have been provided how this figure was obtained.

This 91,000 figure seems amazingly high, if it was only for people living in Tasmania.
A possible explanation for the 91,000 is it also includes:-

. Tasmanians living on the mainland who are members of AFL clubs.
. Tasmanians living in Victoria who are MCC members (members nominate the AFL club they support)
. kids on the mainland or Tasmania who are in Auskick
(My understanding is that, since Auskick costs about $90 and includes free entry to a few AFL games, these Auskick nos. are included in the total club membership nos. Kids nominate which AFL club they support)
 
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