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www.abc.net.au
I guess we'll soon find out!!
The Age P. Ryan 5.1.20
Hawthorn never mentions the declining status of male GR AF in Tasmania- probably because it is too embarrassed at the GR & Draft AF disaster that has occured there, as it happily extracts c.$4,000,000 pa from the Tas. taxpayer.
For the first time in 50 years (excluding 1975 & 2004), HFC will have no Tas. player listed in 2020. HFC previously feasted on many good/great Tas. players, for its great benefit.
Ryan also states
"...momentum continues to build for the state to have a stand-alone team...there are expected to be calls in 2020 for a provisional licence to be granted".
Hawthorn set to enter 2020 without a Tasmanian on their list
Hawthorn is set to enter the new season without a Tasmanian player on their list for the first time since 2004 and for just the third year since AFL legend Peter Hudson arrived at the Hawks in 1967.www.theage.com.au
On 3.12.19, T. Lane accused, in the Tas. govt Legislative Council, HFC of campaigning against a Tas. having its own team. Tas pays HFC & NMFC $8.5 m. pa to play in Tas.
See post#1419 above for the link- then click on twitter 5.12.19 "Hawthorn's Shirtfront Response to Tim Lane"
The Age P. Ryan 5.1.20
Hawthorn never mentions the declining status of male GR AF in Tasmania- probably because it is too embarrassed at the GR & Draft AF disaster that has occured there, as it happily extracts c.$4,000,000 pa from the Tas. taxpayer.
For the first time in 50 years (excluding 1975 & 2004), HFC will have no Tas. player listed in 2020. HFC previously feasted on many good/great Tas. players, for its great benefit.
Ryan also states
"...momentum continues to build for the state to have a stand-alone team...there are expected to be calls in 2020 for a provisional licence to be granted".
Hawthorn set to enter 2020 without a Tasmanian on their list
Hawthorn is set to enter the new season without a Tasmanian player on their list for the first time since 2004 and for just the third year since AFL legend Peter Hudson arrived at the Hawks in 1967.
On 3.12.19, T. Lane accused, in the Tas. govt Legislative Council, HFC of campaigning against Tas. having its own team. Tas. govt. pays HFC & NMFC $8.5 m. pa to play in Tas.
See post#1419 above for the link- then click on twitter 5.12.19 "Hawthorn's Shirtfront Response to Tim Lane"
We have drafted a decent amount of Tasmanian in recent years. All except Birchall turned out to be spuds.
1. I have given my explanation (re the 3 AFL sources that the 9th game pw is worth between $54m. -$60m. per annum for the AFL; & why Tas. will join the AFL c. 2025) in my very detailed posts above- # 725, 874, 937, 1250, 1351 & 1372.
I believe these annual AFL benefits quoted include, also, indirect financial benefits received each year for the addition of GC & GWS.
Apart from the extra broadcast rights $ for the 9th game, other financial benefits are:-
. GC & GWS themselves attract direct private sponsorship $ (IIRC, c. $12m. pa, each)
. addition of very valuable, new AFL stadia on the GC & GWS funded by state govts.
. extensive, valuable extra free MSM AFL coverage in Qld. & NSW
. vast GR growth/extra AFL players drafted from NSW & Qld.; extra GR facilities paid for by local govts. etc.
(creation of GC & GWS have directly contributed to these- & would be VERY expensive for the AFL to emulate, if GC & GWS had not been created)
The quality of the recruitment goldmine has declined (but not the population, which is currently a record 540,000) because Tasmania does not have its own elite team (with the attendant tribalism etc.) & proper elite pathways. Tas. fans in Tasmania, similar to AF fans around Australia, only want to follow the elite competition.
Without its own elite team, AF in Tasmania could not defend itself against the depredations of the VFL & AFL.
For this reason, & others, A. Demetriou (in 2008, & again in 2019) & G. Mc Lachlan (several times, including recently) have both said (paraphrasing) that, when expansion occurs next, Tasmania will probably be the next team to join. Former Commission Chairman R. Oakley has also said in 2019 Tasmania, as a 19th team, should join the AFL.
I will again ask you: what do you know that they don't?
(When I put this same question to you previously in other Tas. threads, you did not respond to this question. Later, your pathetic answer to this question was that Demetriou & McLachlan were both publicly "lying" in their views that Tasmania would probably be the the next team to join, on expansion).
Tas. now produces far fewer champions & star players (a description not applicable to many current players drafted from Tasmania). Tas. is overrepresented in the AFL Hall OF Fame & AFL Team Of The Century.
On actual nos., much fewer Tas. players are being drafted in recent times.
Professional cricket thrives in Tasmania, & a NBL team will almost certainly start soon in Tas. Strong support for its own AL team.
How do you explain that it is only in Tas. that:-
. even though it is an heartland state, its Drafted player nos. recently have collapsed?
. male GR AF competition nos. are in significant decline?
And why is it the only state that has a GR AF long term decline in comp.nos., simultaneously with a long term boom in GR soccer & basketball comp. nos.?
. even though it is an heartland state, soccer & basketball regd. GR nos. are threatening GR AF (and even though Tasmania has, relatively, very few immigrants from soccer-playing nations)?
. raw attendance nos. at AFL matches are in significant decline?
Also
2. The Tas. 19th Team Bid case (to enter c. 2025) is, wisely, based on "It needs to add something to the AFL".
And demonstrating a sound business case that the Tas. team is financially sustainable. Bid team member E. Stewart has publicly expressed confidence in the Bid's financial soundness, good corporate support etc.
Tasmania is not arguing for any other AFL team to be removed, of for mergers.
3. I hope a decision is made soon on the Bid- & I hope Tasmanians don't get robbed again (similar to what happened to this sad Tasmanian case)
https://twitter.com/tasaflteam?lang=en
(go to the twitter on 12.1.20)
4. "Sitting on the precipice of history, it's a frightening time for Tasmanian footy".
B. Godfrey, Bid Team Chairman said
. "It will allow them to see and engage with their local heroes (my emphases) as demonstrated with the expansion teams, participation will rise".
The Tas. Bid is wisely using GWS to support its case- AF has had a participation boom in Sydney's WS (which formerly was barren for AF) & the ACT- & Draft nos. have grown strongly.
. the team colours will be the traditional "myrtle, primrose & magenta".
www.bigfooty.com
The Tas. bid team has indicated the team will play in the traditional state jumper- one of the most iconic & attractive of the traditional AF jumpers. It will be great to see its return.
It has primrose yellow (for the map), myrtle green (mid green, for the jumper) & magenta (a reddish purple for the"T", & on the trims).
Some good, close-up images of the Tas. jumper back & front. The first photo is closest to the original- but without a no. on the front, or as many logos.
Tasmania Jumpers
I posted this on the Footy Jumpers & Graphic Design Forum/What Footy Jumpers Do you own thread hoping to get some information about the two pictured jumpers. A few weeks now and no response. So now I brought the post across to this Forum hoping some of the local Tassie members can help...
Tas. had 2 wins against Victorian state teams (1960, without Baldock being selected- injury; & 1990), & was competitive in several other games. Also defeated WA & SA state teams c. 4 times.
Tasmanian teams also once played against VFL teams in pre-season practice matches. Either as a Tas. state team; or sometimes a Tas. Premiership team alone (eg 1972 Sandy Bay played St Kilda, 1971 Grand Finalist).
Due to the decline in Tas. AF, there would be thrashings now.
Flawed logic coming from someone that doesn’t have a great understanding of the history of the sport no offence the vfl/afl was not new been around for decades when west coast Adelaide came in a lot of people in those states already followed one of the traditional vfl clubs as well as a local wafl or sanfl club its funny when I make a comment like you just have on one of the gws expansion threads I get labeled a troll or a broken record does that title fit for you as well I mean you have commented about support thing numerous times
Can you produce evidence of this- or is it only anecdotal/intuitive?
On the thread on a possible 3rd Sydney team, you were a broken record because you just kept repeating the same comment continuously that:-
