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So am I. I was hoping we would pick him with our last pick (Hogan) last year. I still don't know how he slipped through the cracks in that draft. It wasn't like he no one rated him.:confused:

That is a good point about the ruckman too. Just hypothetically Reg, if McEvoy was available come our 1st pick, would you take him?

Moot point - he won't be. If he was you would have to take him on a "best available" basis.
 

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So am I. I was hoping we would pick him with our last pick (Hogan) last year. I still don't know how he slipped through the cracks in that draft. It wasn't like he no one rated him.:confused:

That is a good point about the ruckman too. Just hypothetically Reg, if McEvoy was available come our 1st pick, would you take him?
I'd be all over him. I'd be screaming out his name before Port even finished calling their pick. If he's still there at #17 it would be hard to imagine anyone else still being available who is a better prospect, and as a ruckman / key forward he is a good fit for our needs as well. Would be just the man to replace Otto in 3-4 years time as a gun ruckman who can also go forward and dominate up there. So he is a "yes" any way you look at it.

But as YOTC said, I doubt he'll get anywhere near us.
 
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Tayte Pears, WA, 24 March 1990, Tall Defender, 190.1cm, 91.8kg.

Composed and disciplined tall defender who is renowned for his good decision making and excellent use of the ball. Recorded an outstanding 2.92 seconds for the 20m sprint – placing him in the top 10% of players at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp.


Is that accurate or might he struggle for height at the highest level. Not 18 yet I understand...but that still leaves 4-6cms. Nice weight on him though for his apparent speed. Decision making and disposal are also critical qualities.
 

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Tayte Pears, WA, 24 March 1990, Tall Defender, 190.1cm, 91.8kg.

Composed and disciplined tall defender who is renowned for his good decision making and excellent use of the ball. Recorded an outstanding 2.92 seconds for the 20m sprint – placing him in the top 10% of players at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp.


Is that accurate or might he struggle for height at the highest level. Not 18 yet I understand...but that still leaves 4-6cms. Nice weight on him though for his apparent speed. Decision making and disposal are also critical qualities.
Too much emphasis on height. 4cms aint that much really (in height that is, length is a different kettle of fish so lets not go down that path). Let's not forget that Campbell Brown, who stands at a whopping 177cms, took Scott Lucas and a few other KPP's to the cleaners this year.

With Egan missing the finals series, our tallest defenders were Scarlett, Harley & Mackie who are all at 192cm. Dash played CHB at 189cm so it goes to show that if you are good enough, those extra cms don't really come into it.
 

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Tayte Pears, WA, 24 March 1990, Tall Defender, 190.1cm, 91.8kg.

Composed and disciplined tall defender who is renowned for his good decision making and excellent use of the ball. Recorded an outstanding 2.92 seconds for the 20m sprint – placing him in the top 10% of players at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp.


Is that accurate or might he struggle for height at the highest level. Not 18 yet I understand...but that still leaves 4-6cms. Nice weight on him though for his apparent speed. Decision making and disposal are also critical qualities.
Really there is no iron clad , lock it in , size that say yes or no for a key position.

Scarlett 191 and Mackie 192 yet who is the guy you would say is a key position player. I would prefer the Egan size of around 194/196 but in the end it get down to talent.
Reading between the lines , a guy at 190 ish with the speed to place him in the top 10 % , one would think he would become an aggressive rebounder rather than a stay at home negator.
 

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Tayte Pears, WA, 24 March 1990, Tall Defender, 190.1cm, 91.8kg.

Composed and disciplined tall defender who is renowned for his good decision making and excellent use of the ball. Recorded an outstanding 2.92 seconds for the 20m sprint – placing him in the top 10% of players at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp.

Is that accurate or might he struggle for height at the highest level. Not 18 yet I understand...but that still leaves 4-6cms. Nice weight on him though for his apparent speed. Decision making and disposal are also critical qualities.
Some players play taller than their height, some shorter, so I don't think actual height is as important as playing style/ability.

That said, I think 190cm is a touch undersized even for a bloke who plays tall, and could be a bit of a problem if he doesn't grow any further. However, he is very bottom aged and I would be very surprised if he doesn't grow another couple of cms in the next year or two. Could easily be 192-193cms by age 20.
 

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Reading between the lines , a guy at 190 ish with the speed to place him in the top 10 % , one would think he would become an aggressive rebounder rather than a stay at home negator.
I think he has the tools to do both.

I'm not suggesting he's going to be as good as Scarlo - he has a hell of a long way to go before he even plays regular senior AFL footy - but if we could get him super fit in a few years he might be able to play a similar role as Scarlo, negating an opposition key forward but also running off him and providing heaps of drive out of defence.
 
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I asked the question...and got three answers in a row that pretty much sums it up to a tee. Thanks guys. His height might be an issue but it doesnt necessarily have to be....I agree. Good weight on him which is important if he is in any way undersized. Lets face it if he was a bit taller he might very well go closer to the top 10 anyway and out of reach...

Everything else sits well with me about him...Collier also. Dangerfield could have more class but does he have the versatility to play tall also?
 
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I think he has the tools to do both.

I'm not suggesting he's going to be as good as Scarlo - he has a hell of a long way to go before he even plays regular senior AFL footy - but if we could get him super fit in a few years he might be able to play a similar role as Scarlo, negating an opposition key forward but also running off him and providing heaps of drive out of defence.
Whoever we get, replacing Scarlo...and also Ottens and to a lesser degree Mooney (given there's Hawkins) down the track are the pressing issues for the footy club in the next 3-4 years. Achieve that and we could have a very long run at the top.
 

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Dangerfield could have more class but does he have the versatility to play tall also?
I can't see Dangerfield as a KPP, if that's what you're asking. However, he is strong overhead and I could certainly see him playing a Mackie/Milburn type tall running defender role off half back. Our game plan is built around loads of run out of the backline too, so I'd imagine we'd like the look of someone like Dangerfield (that and the fact that he is quick, talented, tough, makes good decisions, has plenty of character and is a local Geelong boy).
 

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realistcally its probably between us and hawthorn for the next few preimerships. We've got them covered except for Franklin who could turn matches against us. However someone like pears sounds like he has a very realistic chance of negating Franklin. Same speed, strength, aerial ability etc
 

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It seems that most of us are in agreement with the need to replenish are stocks of talls. In the short term IMO we are fine.
In the long term we need to develop at least 1 ruckman and 2 KPB's.

Rucks - Ottens still has 3 good years in him. Blake is only 22 and West is 20. They will be able to carry our ruck for the next 7-10 years. What we need is back up in case of career ending injuries to any of the above.

Because of salary cap issues we are not in a position to recruit ready made replacements, therefore this Draft we should draft 1 and Rookie another ruckman with the view of developing them for senior football in 2-3 years time. I wouldn't mind seeing Mumford on the Rookie list.

Next year Kane Temple (scholarship player) purported to be 200cm + will be available to be drafted.

KPTalls - Mooney, Scarlett, Harley have 2-4 years left in them. Milburn less but in Mackie we have a ready made replacement.
Hawkins should be ready to take a key spot by the start of 2009.
Lonergan may? be able to replace Harley but Scarlett is irreplaceable unless we groom a fullback now.
This draft should include 2 if not 3 KPP to be groomed in the specialized position of full back.


I agree with the posters that want us to go tall and I would go with;
1 pick -best available KPP
2 pick - best available Ruck.
3 pick - best available KPP
4 pick - Well's smokey from out of no-where.
5 pick - Donohue.

Rookies to include 1 project Ruckman and 1 KPP, the rest to be project Utilities and mids.
Well folks it's time to give old Sarah13 a job in the list management down at the club. :)
Ok..Ok.. back to reality, Wells has set up the list for the loss of Harley,Scarlett, Ottens and Mooney that will eventuate over the next 3-5 years.
The current list is good enough to have a real crack at the next 2-3 premierships but the club and Wells are looking beyond that and I say well done. :thumbsu:
 
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