Teams Team Development (Final Two Weeks)

[Hear Me Crow]

IMO Melbourne will be playing to win and their best team is with Gawn doing the dirty work.
I find it hard to see Spencer being a genuine threat to Max's SC scoring this year.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Great balanced side .....my question would be do you have the 4th premo as a defender (2E) or a 4th premo forward?

Seems to me the forward rookies are flaky compared to the backs? ......just an opinion

Thanks for the feedback
The 4th prem is something I have been pondering, still 50/50 as to which way to go. Currently thinking that 2E will see a fair bit of the ball given the Cats JLT form, the ball looks like it may spend a fair bit of time down that end during our games.

 

[PoopingHindi]

Laaaaads

Check out my POD ruck combo

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FWIW I'm banking big time on Beams to play 20 games this season and return to his premo best

needs more mid-pricers

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

I really really really really really really hope Spencer plays in Round 1.

Gawn's ownership has dropped 1.3% since last night

KEEP DROPPING!!!!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Thanks for the feedback
The 4th prem is something I have been pondering, still 50/50 as to which way to go. Currently thinking that 2E will see a fair bit of the ball given the Cats JLT form, the ball looks like it may spend a fair bit of time down that end during our games.

I've also got a 4th defender, with Adams being able to be swung into the midfield if the defender rookies start scoring well ......if they don't i have the backup of having the 4 backmen

I've taken the same approach with forwards

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Gawn's ownership has dropped 1.3% since last night

KEEP DROPPING!!!!

Assuming people have Sandilands at R2 ......IMO it's simply Goldy v Gawn for R1

All others can be inconsistent .....and that's a no no for SC

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Here2tellyouwhy

My dad just said "Reckon Sam Butler's a good option?"

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So what's he gonna spend the 50k on mate?

 

[Souup]

IMO Melbourne will be playing to win and their best team is with Gawn doing the dirty work.
I find it hard to see Spencer being a genuine threat to Max's SC scoring this year.

Was a pretty genuine threat to his scoring in the preseason games.

Don't give me the 'he wasn't trying it was preseason' argument either - Gawn tonned up in all 3 of his preseason games last season and from my observations he definitely wasn't playing this preseason with his foot off the pedal

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Was a pretty genuine threat to his scoring in the preseason games.

Don't give me the 'he wasn't trying it was preseason' argument either - Gawn tonned up in all 3 of his preseason games last season and from my observations he definitely wasn't playing preseason with his foot off the pedal

Last year Gawn was still fighting for a spot R1 .....this year he knows he's the man ....big difference in how you approach the PS games

 

[Souup]

Last year Gawn was still fighting for a spot R1 .....this year he knows he's the man ....big difference in how you approach the PS games

You're telling me in watching him this preseason you legitimately believe he was playing with his foot off the pedal?

We must have been watching completely different games.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

You're telling me in watching him this preseason you legitimately believe he was playing with his foot off the pedal?

We must have been watching completely different games.

Why is it then that most of the teams mature best players had average scoring SC points, compared with their season proper averages ???

 

[Hear Me Crow]

You're telling me in watching him this preseason you legitimately believe he was playing with his foot off the pedal?

We must have been watching completely different games.

That's not my point.
My point is who is going to get the call up and be lent on when 4pts are on the line? New coach in Goodwin, he will want to start his career on the right foot and get the club as many wins in 2017 as possible. Having Gawn at as many contests as possible gives his side the best chance of winning, not bloody Spencer.

 

[Nathan Wilcox]

That's a pretty decent side. Myers has been injured; although you might want to start him anyway, and I'm not familiar with Patfull, but overall, I can't see much wrong with it.

exactly my thoughts

 

[Souup]

Why is it then that most of the teams mature best players had average scoring SC points, compared with their season proper averages ???

Because points are spread across 25 players and not 22. You'll find that most of the premiums who score less play a different role in the preseason. There are very few players that I think you can claim really take the foot off in the preseason.

Gawn was playing the same role he will during the season, and his intensity and attack was just as high as ive seen - go watch the games back

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Because points are spread across 25 players and not 22. You'll find that most of the premiums who score less play a different role in the preseason. There are very few players that I think you can claim really take the foot off in the preseason.

Gawn was playing the same role he will during the season, and his intensity and attack was just as high as ive seen - go watch the games back

Just my opinion .....but when a game has to be won, the teams senior players lead from the front .....in JLT games where, who cares about the result, those senior players are content to take a back seat

Are they trying ? ...yes

But there's trying ....and then really trying

 

[Souup]

That's not my point.
My point is who is going to get the call up and be lent on when 4pts are on the line? New coach in Goodwin, he will want to start his career on the right foot and get the club as many wins in 2017 as possible. Having Gawn at as many contests as possible gives his side the best chance of winning, not bloody Spencer.

I think you're missing the whole point. It's not a Gawn vs Spencer situation. It's if Spencer plays, there's a 99% chance that Gawns average drops, and more than just a couple of points.

Value for money in this game is huge, and if Gawns average drops 10 points due to Spencer being in the team then that's more then enough for me to start without him (and obviously many others).

The 'he'll finish top 2 Rucks on average' argument isn't convincing either. The whole game is about value for money - why pick Gawn at 640K when I can pick him up at 540K later on.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Because points are spread across 25 players and not 22. You'll find that most of the premiums who score less play a different role in the preseason. There are very few players that I think you can claim really take the foot off in the preseason.

Gawn was playing the same role he will during the season, and his intensity and attack was just as high as ive seen - go watch the games back

no he wasnt, he has Spencer taking about 40-50% of the ruck time...

Gawn would take 90%+ in normal season

but by all means, drop Gawn

 

[Hear Me Crow]

no he wasnt, he has Spencer taking about 40-50% of the ruck time...

Gawn would take 90%+ in normal season

but by all means, drop Gawn

This is what I was trying to say ^^^^

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

I think you're missing the whole point. It's not a Gawn vs Spencer situation. It's if Spencer plays, there's a 99% chance that Gawns average drops, and more than just a couple of points.

Value for money in this game is huge, and if Gawns average drops 10 points due to Spencer being in the team then that's more then enough for me to start without him (and obviously many others).

The 'he'll finish top 2 Rucks on average' argument isn't convincing either. The whole game is about value for money - why pick Gawn at 640K when I can pick him up at 540K later on.

Gawn was never going to have another 118 season - 105-110 is what he will get and we know that, so in essence, you are saying he will average 100?

yes, value for money is huge, but points scored is also huge. Spencer will play 1-2 games max throughout the season. Spencer only played cos Goodwin knows how valuable Gawn is and he doesnt want him to burn out come finals time.

You may be able to pick Gawn up at 540k, but you would have missed out on a lot of points.

but by all means, drop Gawn

 

[Souup]

no he wasnt, he has Spencer taking about 40-50% of the ruck time...

Gawn would take 90%+ in normal season

but by all means, drop Gawn

Did you watch the games? Spencer gave Gawn a chop out while predominantly playing as a key forward, not split the ruck 50/50 with him. It was more 70/30.

The only JLT game you can claim close to a 50/50 split was against the Dogs - which funnily enough is the only game in which Gawn scored well (probably due to the fact the Dogs barely have a ruck division)

 

[Hear Me Crow]

Gawn was never going to have another 118 season - 105-110 is what he will get and we know that, so in essence, you are saying he will average 100?

yes, value for money is huge, but points scored is also huge. Spencer will play 1-2 games max throughout the season. Spencer only played cos Goodwin knows how valuable Gawn is and he doesnt want him to burn out come finals time.

You may be able to pick Gawn up at 540k, but you would have missed out on a lot of points.

but by all means, drop Gawn

Possibly lost points and a trade.
Thats the way Im looking at it atm.

Anywayyy we are turning this into the 'Rucks' thread lol

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Did you watch the games? Spencer gave Gawn a chop out while predominantly playing as a key forward, not split the ruck 50/50 with him. It was more 70/30.

The only JLT game you can claim close to a 50/50 split was against the Dogs - which funnily enough is the only game in which Gawn scored well.

because Gawn kicked some goals. also that around 20-25% difference in ruck time for Gawn during JLT, so kinda contradicting yourself a bit

yes i did watch the games, but by all means drop Gawn please.
if that is what you believe, then go for it, but dont try and preach it to others.

Spencer wont play more than 1 or 2 games max.

but please, do drop Gawn

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Possibly lost points and a trade.
Thats the way Im looking at it atm.

Anywayyy we are turning this into the 'Rucks' thread lol

Sir Skid or Jiska
do you want to move this to the appropriate thread?

 

[Deliverance]

Still think a pure GnR side will win overall. Those trades they will save + money made will probably be the difference.

Its the same every year. Everyone bitches about no rookies being available. They pop up round 1 every time. Guys like Adams and Tipp averaged about 50-60 in last years preseason and were fine during the year. Meanwhile when the real stuff starts, most mid pricers will still score like mid pricers do, losing cash and points on GnR teams.

 

[Souup]

Gawn was never going to have another 118 season - 105-110 is what he will get and we know that, so in essence, you are saying he will average 100?

yes, value for money is huge, but points scored is also huge. Spencer will play 1-2 games max throughout the season. Spencer only played cos Goodwin knows how valuable Gawn is and he doesnt want him to burn out come finals time.

You may be able to pick Gawn up at 540k, but you would have missed out on a lot of points.

but by all means, drop Gawn

I will not miss out on points - I have no idea why these sort of completely illogical points are consistently made. Actually stop and logically think about that statement - you've actually conceded that you believe Gawn will drop his average by 10 points, you've just conceded that you are losing value and thus losing points.

Hypothetically -
Pay 640K for Gawn who drops his average by 10 points (You're losing out on 10ppg based on what you're paying for)
Or
Pay 550K for a midfielder who ups his average by 10 points (Paying for ~102 and getting 112 back). In this situation you also save 90K on the first person who picked Gawn.

The first person is losing out on 20ppg over the second. I've simplified it massively, but I hope the main point is obvious.

Literally the only logical time to ever pay more for value for money is for a captain option, which is why Dangerfield is the biggest lock.