Teams Team Development (Final Two Weeks)

[JuddgementDay]

About 80-90% keen on him

You set a high bar
hopefully all the efforts pay off for you

 

[pulpdriver]

My new basement priced forward rookie

Whoa, he's in the best shape I've seen him for years. Thought he'd be one of those players that would never lose the post-footy fat.

 

[Pedro]

A few people still have Pendels in their team... im not confident in picking him with that questionable injury that he has.. a lot of doubt in my mid now so ive traded him out for Treloar

Pendlebury would play through an amputation and still score well. His history of both games played and scoring is phenom. He's played hurt the last two years running.

 

[Dennis Trumpet]

ive made so many changes this past week. My team is almost unrecognisable.

 

[Mitchell54]

Whats peoples problem with Roughy.

He's fully fit.
Got proven scoring ability. Hasn't averaged below 95 for 5 years straight(not including 2016 of course)
Not too old. Turned 30 about 7 weeks ago
Price at an average of 67
Playing further down the ground in JLT

Whats not to like. I don't get it.

 

[pulpdriver]

Whats peoples problem with Roughy.

He's fully fit.
Got proven scoring ability. Hasn't averaged below 95 for 5 years straight(not including 2016 of course)
Not too old. Turned 30 about 7 weeks ago
Price at an average of 67
Playing further down the ground in JLT

Whats not to like. I don't get it.

The year out and the impact on his health, the new leadership role; can be a blessing or a curse depending on the player, the Hawks who score so damned evenly across the park and lastly I'm overspending in the midfield which means I'm just short of him as a forward option.

That changes if some cheapo rookies with some scope for extended games get named r1 but it presently looks unlikely. Even with the question marks he's gotta be a decent chance for around 90 which is a bargain at his price. Just spent my cash elsewhere already.

 

[TheOz]

Whoa, he's in the best shape I've seen him for years. Thought he'd be one of those players that would never lose the post-footy fat.

The reverse McGuane.

 

[DraftPunk]

Whats peoples problem with Roughy.

He's fully fit.
Got proven scoring ability. Hasn't averaged below 95 for 5 years straight(not including 2016 of course)
Not too old. Turned 30 about 7 weeks ago
Price at an average of 67
Playing further down the ground in JLT

Whats not to like. I don't get it.

Unless you think he's going to kick 70 goals and the Hawks are going to be Top 4, then the most/only relevant season is 2015, where he averaged 90.

90 is about the minimum I would accept from an F6 keeper, so my concern is whether he can better that, or whether the year off will bring him back to 85ish.

85 would make him a non-keeper for a 366k investment.

 

[qarocks]

1 - I wonder what is going to happen if all these rookies are named on extended benches for the weekend. I don't think the 2-0-6 will hold up!

2 - Is it just me, or do none of the rookies this year have a negative break even? That's weird/not good.

 

[TheOz]

Unless you think he's going to kick 70 goals and the Hawks are going to be Top 4, then the most/only relevant season is 2015, where he averaged 90.

90 is about the minimum I would accept from an F6 keeper, so my concern is whether he can better that, or whether the year off will bring him back to 85ish.

85 would make him a non-keeper for a 366k investment.

If you were going to go a mid-pricer then he would be the standout along with Sandi.

 

[jcaston26]

Roast me

 

[Raveneyes]

Three weeks in and everyone hates themselves for all of their mid price selections, ie: Lonergan, Rich, De Goey etc etc.

Even Libba last year who was a fallen premo turned out to be a failed mid pricer as he only averaged about 90, odds are that JOM isn't going to go that much higher, so what exactly is the point? He's never been a premo before either unlike Libba who went 107 and 110 without missing a game in the preceding seasons before his year out injured.

I somewhat agree with you.

But there's always an Aaron Hall (started 2016 at $428k, averaged 95) or Rory Laird (started 2015 at $313k, averaged 93) somewhere about.

Everybody's just looking for the 2017 version(s).

 

[TheOz]

I somewhat agree with you.

But there's always an Aaron Hall (started 2016 at $428k, averaged 95) or Rory Laird (started 2015 at $313k, averaged 93) somewhere about.

Everybody's just looking for the 2017 version(s).

Hall ended the previous season scoring 110 odd ppg for the last 8 or so weeks when given an on ball role so he showed sustained form and wasn't coming off a season or two of injury. Laird is a good one however for every Laird there are your Lonergans, Richs, De Goeys, Websters, Lumumbas. The strike rate isn't high in picking the breakouts that turn into premos.

 

[Jonzi]

 

[Raveneyes]

Hall ended the previous season scoring 110 odd ppg for the last 8 or so weeks when given an on ball role so he showed sustained form and wasn't coming off a season or two of injury. Laird is a good one however for every Laird there are your Lonergans, Richs, De Goeys, Websters, Lumumbas. The strike rate isn't high in picking the breakouts that turn into premos.

Hall was still a mid-pricer at $410k.

I did agree with you though, mid-price madness is fraught with danger.

But if you could pull off 1 or 2 steals, you're in good shape.

 

[Mitchell54]

Unless you think he's going to kick 70 goals and the Hawks are going to be Top 4, then the most/only relevant season is 2015, where he averaged 90.

90 is about the minimum I would accept from an F6 keeper, so my concern is whether he can better that, or whether the year off will bring him back to 85ish.

85 would make him a non-keeper for a 366k investment.

He averaged 96.4 in 2015 though.

 

[G-TRAIN07]

Whats peoples problem with Roughy.

He's fully fit.
Got proven scoring ability. Hasn't averaged below 95 for 5 years straight(not including 2016 of course)
Not too old. Turned 30 about 7 weeks ago
Price at an average of 67
Playing further down the ground in JLT

Whats not to like. I don't get it.

probably not steves type lol

 

[TheOz]

Hall was still a mid-pricer at $410k.

I did agree with you though, mid-price madness is fraught with danger.

But if you could pull off 1 or 2 steals, you're in good shape.

He was a midpricer with a sustained period of premium scoring, you weren't blindly going into the season not knowing what he could produce. It was a mid price selection based on having some empirical evidence, a bit like selecting fallen premo mid pricers who have showed good scoring in the past, like Malceski in 2010 from memory, Wells last season, Beams this year, these players have shown periods of sustained scoring.

 

[Chronz]

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Great team, Can't fault it really. Nank R1 would be the only semi gripe though.

 

[Raveneyes]

He was a midpricer with a sustained period of premium scoring, you weren't blindly going into the season not knowing what he could produce. It was a mid price selection based on having some empirical evidence, a bit like selecting fallen premo mid pricers who have showed good scoring in the past, like Malceski in 2010 from memory, Wells last season, Beams this year, these players have shown periods of sustained scoring.

Totally agree. But don't discount too many of them.

Like Jake Lloyd this year.
Averaged 103 in his last 4 games in 2016, and scored 103 in the GF. Backed up with a solid JLT.
Compare that with Sam Docherty.
His last 4 games in 2015 he averaged 85. Started 2016 at $473k and went gangbusters. Did you start with Sam last year?

Lloyd has better numbers than the Doc. Could this be Lloyd's year?

Whilst I agree that the method of guns n rookies is the sure fire method to get a high ranking, sometimes taking a chance will elevate you higher than the 'cookie cutter' gnr teams.
Could be the difference between finishing top 2k and top 100.

 

[DraftPunk]

He averaged 96.4 in 2015 though.

Oh really? Fanfooty says 90. If he averaged 96.4 then yeah he's a lock haha.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Oh really? Fanfooty says 90. If he averaged 96.4 then yeah he's a lock haha.

96.4
95.8
98.5
103.7
101.5

 

[DraftPunk]

96.4
95.8
98.5
103.7
101.5

Yeah just checked footywire. Fanfooty has one of his scores wrong. Forget everything I said, he's a lock.

 

[G-TRAIN07]

Totally agree. But don't discount too many of them.

Like Jake Lloyd this year.
Averaged 103 in his last 4 games in 2016, and scored 103 in the GF. Backed up with a solid JLT.
Compare that with Sam Docherty.
His last 4 games in 2015 he averaged 85. Started 2016 at $473k and went gangbusters. Did you start with Sam last year?

Lloyd has better numbers than the Doc. Could this be Lloyd's year?

Whilst I agree that the method of guns n rookies is the sure fire method to get a high ranking, sometimes taking a chance will elevate you higher than the 'cookie cutter' gnr teams.
Could be the difference between finishing top 2k and top 100.

nope I didn't start him I got him mid year.

 

[Nathan Wilcox]

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nank and sandi is very ballsy