Opinion Team Traded In versus Out

[Kane McGoodwin]

Pick your best team of players traded in v out, including free agency.

Traded In
B: Massie, Caven, Bassett
HB: Koster, M Stevens, Hinge
C: Seedsman, Dawson, Connell
HF: Lynch, Robran, Welsh
F: Betts, Jenkins, D Jarman
R: Jacobs, S Thompson, McLeod
I: S Stevens, James, Rankine, Bond
Sub: Ellen
E: Clarke, Bode, Keays

Trades Out
B: Lever, Davis, Wellman
HB: Stenglein, Bock, Mattner
C: Johnson, Dangerfield, Vince
HF: Cameron, Tippett, Welsh
F: Betts, Modra, Gunston
R: Rehn, Lyons, B Crouch
I: McGovern, Sanderson, Knights, Stengle
Sub: Henderson
E: Hudson, Keath, Kelly

Who have I forgotten about?

 

[WeeBlake]

Pick your best team of players traded in v out, including free agency.

Traded In
B: Massie, Caven, Bassett
HB: Koster, M Stevens, Hinge
C: Seedsman, Dawson, Connell
HF: Lynch, Robran, Welsh
F: Betts, Jenkins, D Jarman
R: Jacobs, S Thompson, McLeod
I: S Stevens, James, Rankine, Bond
Sub: Ellen
E: Clarke, Bode, Keays

Trades Out
B: Lever, Davis, Wellman
HB: Stenglein, Bock, Mattner
C: Johnson, Dangerfield, Vince
HF: Cameron, Tippett, Welsh
F: Betts, Modra, Gunston
R: Rehn, Lyons, B Crouch
I: McGovern, Sanderson, Knights, Stengle
Sub: Henderson
E: Hudson, Keath, Kelly

Who have I forgotten about?

Maric? Second ruck
Edit also Symes vs Keays, battle of the maligned ones

 

[119others]

Maric? Second ruck
Edit also Symes vs Keays, battle of the maligned ones

Keays>>>>>Symes without a doubt

B&F would reflect that I imagine

i started a thread almost 20 years go saying Dogga Doughty >>>> Symes and Begley. Was not a highly supported position at the time

 

[119others]

Pick your best team of players traded in v out, including free agency.

Traded In
B: Massie, Caven, Bassett
HB: Koster, M Stevens, Hinge
C: Seedsman, Dawson, Connell
HF: Lynch, Robran, Welsh
F: Betts, Jenkins, D Jarman
R: Jacobs, S Thompson, McLeod
I: S Stevens, James, Rankine, Bond
Sub: Ellen
E: Clarke, Bode, Keays

Trades Out
B: Lever, Davis, Wellman
HB: Stenglein, Bock, Mattner
C: Johnson, Dangerfield, Vince
HF: Cameron, Tippett, Welsh
F: Betts, Modra, Gunston
R: Rehn, Lyons, B Crouch
I: McGovern, Sanderson, Knights, Stengle
Sub: Henderson
E: Hudson, Keath, Kelly

Who have I forgotten about?

Man you have nailed this at first glance. Well done. Unbelievable talent lost here…most at peak of powers with a few clear exceptions like Eddie, Rehn, Welsh and Godra. See Rehn in Byron quite often…very chilled dude these days

 

[Scorpus]

Traded Out
B: Lever, Davis, Wellman
HB: Stenglein, Bock, Mattner
C: Johnson, Dangerfield, Vince
HF: Cameron, Tippett, Welsh
F: Betts, Modra, Gunston
R: Rehn, Lyons, B Crouch
I: McGovern, Sanderson, Knights, Stengle
Sub: Henderson

Acquired with what we got from trading out those players

B L. Brown - McAsey - Symes
HB Milera - Worrell - Stenglein
C Dawson - S. Thompson - Gibbs
HF Bode - Carey - Pedlar
F Hodges - Fogarty - McAdam
R Jenkins - M. Crouch - B. Crouch
I Soligo - Menzel - Berry - Sholl
Sub: McHenry

 

[Scorpus]

In case you were wondering (this also includes giving up picks)

Lever > Gibbs, McAsey, Pedlar, Hamill, Sholl, McAdam, McHenry, Worrell, Soligo, Dawson
Davis > Brown, B. Crouch
Wellman > Hodges
Stenglein > S. Thompson, C. Gibson
Bock > Tambling
Mattner > Symes
Johnson > Carey, Jericho
Dangerfield > Milera, Menzel, Gore
Vince > M. Crouch
Cameron > Fogarty
Tippett >
Welsh >
Betts >
Modra > Stenglein, Beinke
Gunston > Jenkins, Kerridge, Grigg, Joyce, Ellis-Yolmen, Armstrong
Rehn > Bode
Lyons > Poholke, Signorello
B. Crouch > Berry
McGovern > McAdam, McHenry
Sanderson > Warrior
Knights >
Stengle >
Henderson >

I think the Lever trade ended up as (not including picks we also gave up):

Lever > 10, Melbourne 2018 1st, Melbourne 2018 4th
10 > Gibbs, 77, Carlton 2018 2nd, Carlton 2018 3rd
Melbourne 2018 1st > Carlton 2019 1st
Carlton 2018 2nd > Hamill, Carlton 2019 2nd
Carlton 2018 3rd > McAdam, McHenry
Melbourne 2018 4th > Sholl
Carlton 2019 1st > McAsey, Pedlar
Carlton 2019 2nd > Worrell, Fremantle 2020 3rd
Fremantle 2020 3rd > Melbourne 2021 2nd, Melbourne 2021 4th
Melbourne 2021 2nd, Melbourne 2021 4th > Melbourne 2022 1st, 33
33 > Soligo
Melbourne 2022 1st > Dawson

 

[Moonwatcher]

Keays>>>>>Symes without a doubt

B&F would reflect that I imagine

i started a thread almost 20 years go saying Dogga Doughty >>>> Symes and Begley. Was not a highly supported position at the time

Doughty is the most underrated player in Crows history. I liked Begley.

 

[dogs105]

In case you were wondering (this also includes giving up picks)

Lever > Gibbs, McAsey, Pedlar, Hamill, Sholl, McAdam, McHenry, Worrell, Soligo, Dawson
Davis > Brown, B. Crouch
Wellman > Hodges
Stenglein > S. Thompson, C. Gibson
Bock > Tambling
Mattner > Symes
Johnson > Carey, Jericho
Dangerfield > Milera, Menzel, Gore
Vince > M. Crouch
Cameron > Fogarty
Tippett >
Welsh >
Betts >
Modra > Stenglein, Beinke
Gunston > Jenkins, Kerridge, Grigg, Joyce, Ellis-Yolmen, Armstrong
Rehn > Bode
Lyons > Poholke, Signorello
B. Crouch > Berry
McGovern > McAdam, McHenry
Sanderson > Warrior
Knights >
Stengle >
Henderson >

I think the Lever trade ended up as (not including picks we also gave up):

Lever > 10, Melbourne 2018 1st, Melbourne 2018 4th
10 > Gibbs, 77, Carlton 2018 2nd, Carlton 2018 3rd
Melbourne 2018 1st > Carlton 2019 1st
Carlton 2018 2nd > Hamill, Carlton 2019 2nd
Carlton 2018 3rd > McAdam, McHenry
Melbourne 2018 4th > Sholl
Carlton 2019 1st > McAsey, Pedlar
Carlton 2019 2nd > Worrell, Fremantle 2020 3rd
Fremantle 2020 3rd > Melbourne 2021 2nd, Melbourne 2021 4th
Melbourne 2021 2nd, Melbourne 2021 4th > Melbourne 2022 1st, 33
33 > Soligo
Melbourne 2022 1st > Dawson

Was the Jarman - Wellman - Salmon deal done in this way because multi-club trades weren't allowed?

 

[119others]

Was the Jarman - Wellman - Salmon deal done in this way because multi-club trades weren't allowed

no from memory it was a straight 3 way trade between all clubs which was allowed

Salmon Dons->Horks
DJ Horks->Crows
Wellman Crows->Dons

Big picture, Crows were clear winners with Jars integral for our 2 flags. Dons did well getting a young star Wellman for the best part of a decade. Horks fans still pi$$ed with the trade as the clear losers but they did pinch Jars when we first joined the competition and he had a hand shake agreement to join the Crows before a bundle of cash and/or new car was provided to Jars by Horks benefactors

 

[Scorpus]

Was the Jarman - Wellman - Salmon deal done in this way because multi-club trades weren't allowed?

We gave pick 25 directly to Hawthorn for Jarman, and received pick 45 directly from Essendon for Wellman

I guess it depends on whether you think it was a combined trade or two seperate trades

 

[Apsaalooke]

The traded in Betts >> traded out Betts

 

[GROTTO]

The traded in Betts >> traded out Betts

The traded out Cameron >> drafted in Cameron.

 

[1990crow]

This just shows that since 98 we have lost talent over and over, more than we have brought in. Probably a major hurdle to succeeding.

 

[GROTTO]

Pick your best team of players traded in v out, including free agency.

Which of your teams would win a hypothetical match if they played each other?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Which of your teams would win a hypothetical match if they played each other?

The traded outs I think would beat the ins.

 

[Moonwatcher]

This just shows that since 98 we have lost talent over and over, more than we have brought in. Probably a major hurdle to succeeding.

Also shows that we are drafting talented players so less need to trade in players.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Maric? Second ruck
Edit also Symes vs Keays, battle of the maligned ones

I did think of Maric... but went Hudson instead... but not much in it.

I personally have Keays ahead of Symes for his gut running & hair lol.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

This just shows that since 98 we have lost talent over and over, more than we have brought in. Probably a major hurdle to succeeding.

We appear to be evening things up in the past few years.

We are locking down our young talent long term.

 

[1990crow]

We appear to be evening things up in the past few years.

We are locking down our young talent long term.

Yes. Talking 1998 to 2020.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Looking back at the draft and trading off early/mid 2000’s was utterly depressing

 

[mcleod at 50 lines it up]

Looking back at the draft and trading off early/mid 2000’s was utterly depressing

was always amazed justin reid got the job when his old man did such a bad job.

 

[mcleod at 50 lines it up]

Pick your best team of players traded in v out, including free agency.

Traded In
B: Massie, Caven, Bassett
HB: Koster, M Stevens, Hinge
C: Seedsman, Dawson, Connell
HF: Lynch, Robran, Welsh
F: Betts, Jenkins, D Jarman
R: Jacobs, S Thompson, McLeod
I: S Stevens, James, Rankine, Bond
Sub: Ellen
E: Clarke, Bode, Keays

Trades Out
B: Lever, Davis, Wellman
HB: Stenglein, Bock, Mattner
C: Johnson, Dangerfield, Vince
HF: Cameron, Tippett, Welsh
F: Betts, Modra, Gunston
R: Rehn, Lyons, B Crouch
I: McGovern, Sanderson, Knights, Stengle
Sub: Henderson
E: Hudson, Keath, Kelly

Who have I forgotten about?

henderson AA at hawthorn so probably has to be in the starting 18 was a great offensive player.

 

[dogs105]

Pick your best team of players traded in v out, including free agency.

Traded In
B: Massie, Caven, Bassett
HB: Koster, M Stevens, Hinge
C: Seedsman, Dawson, Connell
HF: Lynch, Robran, Welsh
F: Betts, Jenkins, D Jarman
R: Jacobs, S Thompson, McLeod
I: S Stevens, James, Rankine, Bond
Sub: Ellen
E: Clarke, Bode, Keays

Trades Out
B: Lever, Davis, Wellman
HB: Stenglein, Bock, Mattner
C: Johnson, Dangerfield, Vince
HF: Cameron, Tippett, Welsh
F: Betts, Modra, Gunston
R: Rehn, Lyons, B Crouch
I: McGovern, Sanderson, Knights, Stengle
Sub: Henderson
E: Hudson, Keath, Kelly

Who have I forgotten about?

Tony Hall

 

[Danger Zone]

henderson AA at hawthorn so probably has to be in the starting 18 was a great offensive player.

Henderson AA??

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Henderson AA??

Yeah, that never happened.