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[Vegas.]

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The immediate future,
Ins: Milburn and Varcoe
Outs: Prismall and Byrnes.

Fine for next week, but we are talking finals.

Chappy? Wojak?

 

[rooie]

Iv'e got no issue with Byrnes, I think he goes ok for a midget, but yeah, does miss some easy ones....then so does buddy

I think Bomber probably got a call from Clarkson asking to show him a bit more of that number 17 as he wants to draft him...

 

[cats2rise]

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Well you're a terrific supporter then, aren't you? Lol, do you think I give a shit about what some anonymous randoms think of me? You're not alone in your laughter, by the way. I'm laughing at all of you because you're behaving like petulant brats.

No better than Richmond supporters, the lot of you. What you gonna do next? Spit on Bomber because he put Shannon in the team?

So we are all wrong, and you are the only one that is right?

Just because we are winning games does not mean we do not have the right to critique the team. We, as the supporters, still want the best team out on the park, and 95% of us believe Shannon Byrnes is not part of that. You need to learn that your opinion may not always be right. Just because we do not have the same opinion does not make us 'Richmond supporters.'

Just because you believe Shannon Byrnes is good does not mean it is true. I know you are going to come back and say that me, but I and many many posters on here can (and have) told you why wee think he is just an ordinary footballer.

 

[Ricketts]

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Fine for next week, but we are talking finals.

Chappy? Wojak?

Who knows. Things change from week to week. Just look at the current Gamble thread and every Prismall thread this year. People are all worried that these two aren't going to get many games, but as it's turned out there have been spots available over the last 4-5 weeks for them.

There's every chance that there'll be spots available for other players from this week onwards.

The point is that there's no real pecking order for all our fringe players, it's just a case of who is available on the day and who can perform to a solid level when given their shot. And all these fringe players are getting a shot this season, and i'd say none have failed.

We have a best 26-ish rather than a best 22 so the whole exercise of picking a team right now to play a Qualifying Final is pointless. But that said I just like it when we have one of Byrnes or Varcoe in the side.

 

[eliiiiza]

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So we are all wrong, and you are the only one that is right?

Just because we are winning games does not mean we do not have the right to critique the team. We, as the supporters, still want the best team out on the park, and 95% of us believe Shannon Byrnes is not part of that. You need to learn that your opinion may not always be right. Just because we do not have the same opinion does not make us 'Richmond supporters.'

Just because you believe Shannon Byrnes is good does not mean it is true. I know you are going to come back and say that me, but I and many many posters on here can (and have) told you why wee think he is just an ordinary footballer.

Where did I say that I was the only one who was right? I'm saying that true supporters don't spout the shit that has been posted here.

There is constructive criticism, and then there are personal insults. See the difference yet? I was never criticising your opinion, I was pointing out that supporters don't voice their opinions in that manner. Capische?

Don't expect me to respect your opinion when you don't even respect mine in the first place.

 

[cats2rise]

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I have never said Shannon Byrnes is a bad person... I have said I think his skills and decision making is bad. Theres a difference.

Oh, and don't ever say I am not a true supporter. Much appreciated.

 

[catempire]

bomber and match committee convo

mc..in ablett and byrnes
b....no way byrnes aint playing
mc..if we give him a game we will get more for him when we trade him
b....oh i get it
b.... but i want him out next week
mc..deal

I understand now.

It's so very cunning.

Well done GFC!

Hope he plays a blinder!

 

[Vegas.]

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We have a best 26-ish rather than a best 22 so the whole exercise of picking a team right now to play a Qualifying Final is pointless. But that said I just like it when we have one of Byrnes or Varcoe in the side.

That's fair enough, but in a hypothetical 'best 22' scenario, surely they aren't in.

For the record - Pompeii Ruler, Spring Carnival - cash in.

 

[Play Fair]

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Mmmhm. Exaggerating a little bit there aren't you? Wouldn't his DE% be zero if that were the case?

Are you suggesting that you know better than the team selectors? I think they've been doing a damn fine job for the past 22 months.

I didn't say he kicks the ball with no accuracy at all...in many cases when no one is within 20 metres of him he can manage to hit a target, sometimes he can even manage under pressure, however for a goal sneak he really does struggle to put the ball through the big sticks.

And no I don't claim to know better than the selectors it is purely my view that being able to kick a football accurately on a regular basis is a basic requirement to play in the AFL. Obviously the selectors don't share this view, and value his pace or whatever other qualities he's suppossed to have ahead of kicking.

 

[Kent_Kingsley]

is this the part where Byrnes comes in and does nothing but still floats around to another permiership medallion.

ah byrnes the good old passenger!

 

[cats2rise]

If Byrnes could get one, Kent surely deserves one!

 

[Vegas.]

If Byrnes could get one, Kent surely deserves one!

Or 8.

 

[eliiiiza]

is this the part where Byrnes comes in and does nothing but still floats around to another permiership medallion.

ah byrnes the good old passenger!

I see the irony there.

 

[Kent_Kingsley]

im no way near as much of a passenger as byrnes

byrnes is deadset useless

 

[CatFan79]

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I'm sorry, but I just cannot imagine Hunt starting at CHB.

I was really hoping that they would try one of the young talls from the VFL at CHB. What is there to lose at this stage of the year when playing the league cellar dweller?

What is this, the 80's? The named team never usually looks anything like they line up and its all about matchups. Thought most people would have realized this by now.

 

[Bartram_Class]

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I have never said Shannon Byrnes is a bad person... I have said I think his skills and decision making is bad. Theres a difference.

Oh, and don't ever say I am not a true supporter. Much appreciated.

Get out you pommy crumb...

Anyone worried about the return of one Nathan Carroll? He's had 12 weeks in the VFL to limber up for this clash, back onto the big stage. Tommy Lonergan would be licking his chops.

 

[CatFan79]

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Get out you pommy crumb...

Anyone worried about the return of one Nathan Carroll? He's had 12 weeks in the VFL to limber up for this clash, back onto the big stage. Tommy Lonergan would be licking his chops.

Your whole backline looks very suspect. Mooney might actually contribute.

 

[martyk]

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I have never said Shannon Byrnes is a bad person... I have said I think his skills and decision making is bad. Theres a difference.

Oh, and don't ever say I am not a true supporter. Much appreciated.

While I agree to an extent, Byrnes creates a lot more offensively than Varcoe... its the execution that Byrnes really has issues with. I think defensively Varcoe is better, offensively Byrnes takes the cake. Who is better?? Well, they are forwards... as unpopular as it may be, I'd probably give Byrnes the nod. Varcoe goes missing often also(regular aborginal trait) so I think on as far as pure effectiveness goes... maybe Byrnes just takes it.

Mind you, neither are in our best 22. This spot is Chapman's when he returns anyway, likely next week. Who cares??

 

[Cheshire Cat]

The Byrnes-hate on this board is relentless and embarrassing. Seriously, flip a coin between Byrnes and Varcoe at the moment, if Byrnes gets the nod, so be it. Its not going to make a huge difference, not in this game and not in the season.

Edit: Agree with marty's analysis, again.

 

[Ricketts]

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For the record - Pompeii Ruler, Spring Carnival - cash in.

Yeah that's the good stuff right there.

 

[AM]

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What makes this worst is that Byrnes was average at best in the VFL, having shown absolutely no sign of improvement to his goal kicking.

FRUSTRATING!

Maybe if we give him a couple of freebie games now we'll get more for him when we trade him at seasons end.
or
Eliiiiza has something on one or more of the selectors.

 

[vinum coupe]

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Happy with that change, Varcoe will come back better after some rest (from 1's footy at least) and Byrnes is the logical replacement as we need one of them (but not both) in the 22.

no he wont, byrnes will stay now. It is balance.

 

[martyk]

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no he wont, byrnes will stay now. It is balance.

Who comes out for Chapman then?

 

[vinum coupe]

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Who comes out for Chapman then?

just look at who went in when he went out

 

[martyk]

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just look at who went in when he went out

So you don't know then? OK.

They would need to drop either Byrnes, Prismal or Gamble I would imagine. To me dropping Gamble or Prismal and leaving Byrnes is just plain ridiculous.