Team vs. Eagles

[chapmanmagic35]

How can people here honestly dispute the contribution Harley has made to this team?

As for Wojac, touch and go.

 

[catempire]

Back on topic...

Good changes!

 

[darren forssman]

As for Wojac, touch and go.

still not a believer??

an angry pole is worth than you may think. apart from that north game when he lost the plot he had been good for us.

if he is fit and healthy he will be back, if not then he wont.

 

[Flex]

Not people. Numerous user names yes. Most likely all the same person. Why would someone go to all that effort? Good question. Like I said - sad, unfortunate people but oh well.

I tell you whats unfortunate... some poor schmucks have to earn a buck by selling booze to the lovely people of Frankston for a living. Geee... now I actually do feel for you mate, maybe next time I'll go a little easier on you...

 

[catempire]

As for Wojac, touch and go.

Yeah, I thought we converted you Chappy!

Didn't the exorcism take?

 

[captain dewy]

embarrasing thread for all fans, pull your heads in we are playing awesome and we have tough choices in the selection area. we are 1-2 injuries away from needing all the help we can get.
these are the good times as good as it gets . enjoy!
!@#$ off with the infighting bullsh!t
a real pleasure to be a part of it, thanks team

 

[The Casey Cat]

Personal attacks, classy.

Oh dear. Flex proving why he's also on my ignore list. Shame I don't actually do that any more and yes I'm sure the lovely poor schmucks miss me Flex.

Back on topic I missed Wojak on the emergencies. Good to see appears he's not in trouble as I thought he was. I have little doubt there will be a late change or two again (has been every week lately) and maybe he can sneak in.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

The Geelong Board is fast becoming one of my most HATED on BigFooty. I dont know what it is. Almost every thread seems to be derailed with irrational criticism of our players (namely Byrnes) ultimatey ending to petty personal insults. Differing opinions on something as trivial as the selection of our 22nd player are not the important.

We are top of the ladder, enjoying the best period in our history. Chill out FFS! Get over yourselves

 

[Cheshire Cat]

embarrasing thread for all fans, pull your heads in we are playing awesome and we have tough choices in the selection area. we are 1-2 injuries away from needing all the help we can get.
these are the good times as good as it gets . enjoy!
!@#$ off with the infighting bullsh!t
a real pleasure to be a part of it, thanks team

Sorry, missed this post. What you said.

 

[Badtemperedbadger]

Sorry, missed this post. What you said.

Yeah totally agree well said
Trouble is most of us argue/make points legitimitely re Sim CE etc and in good humour.
Others think that by repeating themselves ad nauseum and off topic works and if that doesn't they fall into personal insults, sad really.
The thread is about our great team for this Saturday. people are entitled to their opinions and shouldn't be belittled for it.
As I stated in an ealier post and explained succinctly Max rooke will come in because the players respect his hardness at the contest, this spills over into blocks tackles etc.
I am very confident the match committee will support this view yet some disagree (fair enough) but they just criticise rather than stay on topic and explain why this may not be so.
I have never have, and never would criticise any player in the Blue and White hoops. They all put their hearts into our great club. Some posters have favourites and that is cool but don't whinge and moan all the time if they miss out.
We do afterall barack for the same team(Ithink)

 

[Badtemperedbadger]

Don't be such a stupid pathetic clown.



All I can say is you're the only person I've known to say that. He was pretty good I thought.



You can argue without trying to be a ####en smart @$$ is it that too tough for you?



Wrong he is swung down there at different times throughout games. Made his name as a defender years ago. Very capable at it.



A large chunk of the time? And I did not mean he will go and kick bags every time. But he can be handy down there. Good mark and set shot.



WTF is wrong with you? Followed Cooney and Hodge and numerous other star players this year and done pretty well.



You can wrap as much rubbish around it as you like and carry on like a complete w***er but the fact is Rooke will be rushed back in next week. Whether you (who seems to have no idea) like it or not so drop the stupid ignorant anti Rooke garbage.

Good work Sim. Surprised you have the energy, trouble is logic doesn't work with fools.

 

[rizzo]

So much rubbish being posted in this thread, so instead of quoting i will just post my thoughts.

Rooke - Cant measure his importance to the team with touches. His ferocity, attack on the man and ball and general toughness is a barometer for the team. When he is up and about, then so is the team. It is true Gamble is a better forward then rooke, but if u see rooke as a forward then your missing his role completely. Rooke can play anywhere, and is the ideal switch man. If he goes forward it is not to kick goals, rather it is to stop the run from defence of the opposition. If he kicks a goal, great.

Harley - More valuable as a small defender. Plays tall great over head. People question his pace, which is a shock. He has enough of it. Playing him as a tall would hurt the team. Scarlo and Taylor are more then capable of playing tall. Milburn can as well.

Wojo - WIll be back next week, unless the injury is more substantial. Adds more to the team then the likes of Varcoe and Prissa. His pace will be vital come finals.

 

[hamG]

This entire thread is an embarrassment. Every club and fan wishes they could be where we are right now but breezing through all the sh!t in here is ridiculous.

I'll let you in on an old keyboard secret.

You cannot win an argument on the internet no matter how hard you try.

Now, what I actually wanted to say was bye to Shannon, he tried his best and achieved more than better players have but his ride is now over and flying behind the stick.

I expect Rooke back in for the finals - intensity is his calling card. He won't hide along the boundary receiving short kicks like Nick Stevens fattening up his stats, he is all intangibles ... and a surprisingly good shot for goal.

 

[CatFan79]

Yeah totally agree well said
Trouble is most of us argue/make points legitimitely re Sim CE etc and in good humour.
Others think that by repeating themselves ad nauseum and off topic works and if that doesn't they fall into personal insults, sad really.

I'd say Sim Dog (who you are supporting) calling me a 'w***er' would be regarded as an insult, and the first insult that occurred on this thread. Unfortunately mods on here have chosen to ignore it or are very *clear throat* selective.

The thread is about our great team for this Saturday. people are entitled to their opinions and shouldn't be belittled for it.

Yes.

I have never have, and never would criticise any player in the Blue and White hoops.

Congratulations, but you're not the authority.

Why shouldn't we critically analyse our players, especially when theres a couple of finals spots that are REALLY up for grabs. Because I dont conform to popular opinion (of three or four others) doesn't mean I cant voice my opinions.

I am critical of posters who choose to post unsubstantiated rubbish or insults in response to a valid point I make. This is the only time I may get 'off topic'.

 

[cat in sydney]

On the matter of Rooke. Wasn't it earlier this year (perhaps the Pies game) that the team said they never want Rooke left out of the team again?

If that's the case, then martyk/Flex/catfan79 (I have a feeling you are all one person), go and argue with them, not us.
I'd like to see you have the same venom and patronising tone arguing your point to Gary Jnr, Jimmy, Joel Corey who would all stand toe to toe with you arguing for Rooke's inclusion. Do you think you know more than them? If so, can you tell us why? Why is it that you want Rooke out of the side, but they demand him be in?

 

[whoknows]

I'd like to see you have the same venom and patronising tone arguing your point to Gary Jnr, Jimmy, Joel Corey who would all stand toe to toe with you arguing for Rooke's inclusion.

Even better, let him argue with Max Rooke....

Maybe then he'll understand exactly why he's in the team.

 

[CatFan79]

On the matter of Rooke. Wasn't it earlier this year (perhaps the Pies game) that the team said they never want Rooke left out of the team again?

If that's the case, then martyk/Flex/catfan79 (I have a feeling you are all one person), go and argue with them, not us.
I'd like to see you have the same venom and patronising tone arguing your point to Gary Jnr, Jimmy, Joel Corey who would all stand toe to toe with you arguing for Rooke's inclusion. Do you think you know more than them? If so, can you tell us why? Why is it that you want Rooke out of the side, but they demand him be in?

Firstly I am one person with one account.

Whatever tone you choose to extract from text in a forum is a matter of opinion. I prefer Gamble in our current setup to Rooke and am willing to give valid reasons for my opinion. I'm not anti-Geelong and I'm not trying to upset anyone, thats just my opinion.

I watch the game probably closer than most of you and I can't see this great value that Rooke is adding to our team.

Please, no need for you all to pipe up about his toughness, blocking ability and apparent intimidation (again) because I simply don't rate it and don't see the value in it over what others in the team can provide on a similar front.

In a lesser team his toughness may go a long way in encouraging team mates but our squad is mentally strong enough not to need this.

If you don't agree, thats too bad. I'll gladly argue my point with anyone.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Firstly I am one person with one account.

Whatever tone you choose to extract from text in a forum is a matter of opinion. I prefer Gamble in our current setup to Rooke and am willing to give valid reasons for my opinion. I'm not anti-Geelong and I'm not trying to upset anyone, thats just my opinion.

I watch the game probably closer than most of you and I can't see this great value that Rooke is adding to our team.

Please, no need for you all to pipe up about his toughness, blocking ability and apparent intimidation (again) because I simply don't rate it and don't see the value in it over what others in the team can provide on a similar front.

In a lesser team his toughness may go a long way in encouraging team mates but our squad is mentally strong enough not to need this.

If you don't agree, thats too bad. I'll gladly argue my point with anyone.

The coaching staff watch the game probably more closely than you do and obviously feel Max does provide something to our team. FWIW, I would like to see Gamble in the team but maybe at the expense of Lonergan. Either way these selection are unlikely to be critical.

 

[cat in sydney]

Firstly I am one person with one account.

Fair enough. I know the other two are the same person though.

Whatever tone you choose to extract from text in a forum is a matter of opinion. I prefer Gamble in our current setup to Rooke and am willing to give valid reasons for my opinion. I'm not anti-Geelong and I'm not trying to upset anyone, thats just my opinion.

I watch the game probably closer than most of you and I can't see this great value that Rooke is adding to our team.

Please, no need for you all to pipe up about his toughness, blocking ability and apparent intimidation (again) because I simply don't rate it and don't see the value in it over what others in the team can provide on a similar front.

You might not rate him, and that's your opinion, to which you are entitled. My question was, why is it that you hold your position so staunchly, and talk down at other people, when the coaches and players (who are all more intimately involved than you or I) both select and demand Rooke play? That says to me that there is something to Rooke as a player that we as armchair critics may not notice. Can you accept that?

In a lesser team his toughness may go a long way in encouraging team mates but our squad is mentally strong enough not to need this.

If you don't agree, thats too bad. I'll gladly argue my point with anyone.

I get what you're saying, and I agree with Gamble (would love his x-factor in the finals), but it seems to me that there are reasons why the coaches select Rooke, and why the other players demand he is selected, whether we notice those reasons or not.

 

[polly63]

Firstly I am one person with one account.

Whatever tone you choose to extract from text in a forum is a matter of opinion. I prefer Gamble in our current setup to Rooke and am willing to give valid reasons for my opinion. I'm not anti-Geelong and I'm not trying to upset anyone, thats just my opinion.

I watch the game probably closer than most of you and I can't see this great value that Rooke is adding to our team.

Please, no need for you all to pipe up about his toughness, blocking ability and apparent intimidation (again) because I simply don't rate it and don't see the value in it over what others in the team can provide on a similar front.

In a lesser team his toughness may go a long way in encouraging team mates but our squad is mentally strong enough not to need this.

If you don't agree, thats too bad. I'll gladly argue my point with anyone.

Nothing wrong with having a different opinion of certain players. But frankly, with 2 losses in 38 odd matches it does appear that the selection committee knows what it is doing so I'm happy to respect their decisions.

They certainly seem to now how to get the best out of a defence which is clearly missing Egan - a quick look at the For and Against record shows that. A significant contribution to that defence is shutting down opposition playmakers who can deliver the ball into a forward line - enter Ling, Corey, and to a lesser extent Rooke, Wojcinski.

I think many of us recognise that this backline, although one of Geelong's great strengths (for its rebound as much as its ability to keep scores low), has a significant (?) flaw - one on one against some opponents they can be beaten (yes even Scarlett and Harley). However, that flaw is rarely exploited well enough to have the Cats in scoreboard trouble because of the setups and strategies (and teamwork) devised by the coaches and players.

IMO a fit Rooke and Wojcinski are key elements to our finals and I'm looking forward to seeing more of Rooke's hardness and Wojo's dashing runs across the expanses of the G - esp on the last Sat in Sept (everything crossed).

 

[Badtemperedbadger]

I'd say Sim Dog (who you are supporting) calling me a 'w***er' would be regarded as an insult, and the first insult that occurred on this thread. Unfortunately mods on here have chosen to ignore it or are very *clear throat* selective.



Yes.



Congratulations, but you're not the authority.
I watch the game probably closer than most of you and I can't see this great value that Rooke is adding to our team.

Obviously you are, I can't beleive you make an unsubstantiated statement like this with out any facts

Why shouldn't we critically analyse our players, especially when theres a couple of finals spots that are REALLY up for grabs. Because I dont conform to popular opinion (of three or four others) doesn't mean I cant voice my opinions.

I am critical of posters who choose to post unsubstantiated rubbish or insults in response to a valid point I make. This is the only time I may get 'off topic'.

He frightens other players? pfftt thats ridiculous. If that was the case why has he got less than 10 touches in his last couple of games. The skill level statement is just a fluff piece thats rubbish, be more specific if you want this to mean any more.

Yeah I can see your well thought out response to what I attempeted at a valid argument.

look buddy I have no problem with your opinion. You think Gamble should be in ahead of Rooke and I don't entirely disagree. I think another option, unfortunately Prismall may be a better option.
This opinion is current and I would imagine both Gambles and Prismall's stocks will continue to rise.
Stop being so pious and trying to belittle other's opinions(as above) to further your own.

 

[mcwilrob]

It could be the last time we see Byrnes fullstop

We can only hope....

 

[chapmanmagic35]

still not a believer??

an angry pole is worth than you may think. apart from that north game when he lost the plot he had been good for us.

if he is fit and healthy he will be back, if not then he wont.

Yeah, I thought we converted you Chappy!

Didn't the exorcism take?

Sorry lads, should've clarified that the "touch & go" comment was in relation to his fitness, not his ability to gain a spot in the side.

Am I believer? Am I converted? Well, premierships do funny things to people.

 

[catempire]

Sorry lads, should've clarified that the "touch & go" comment was in relation to his fitness, not his ability to gain a spot in the side.

Am I believer? Am I converted? Well, premierships do funny things to people.

Good to hear the work we put into you wasn't for nothing!

For those folks that didn't see the VFL game last weekend, Wojcinski just needs the additional run in the VFL under his belt before returning to the senior side. He will be back next week, barring injury, I expect.

 

[Exhale You]

I watch the game probably closer than most of you and I can't see this great value that Rooke is adding to our team.

I love a vigorous debate, but i can't stand it when one arrogantly suggest that anyone who doesn't agree with them lacks knowledge of the game.

Despite your obvious narcissism, you aren't the oracle and your opinion holds no more weight than that of those you're debating.