Quite the achievement
Good that it is data driven but a lot of that data is based on subjective input (but that’s probably hard to avoid, that subjective input is the same way we decide awards in the game other than Coleman award)
There’s obvious things that stick out.
Like hawks have to be so high cause of quantity of youth rather than quality. They’ve got some nice young talent but not so many high end young players performing to be so high.
Coaches votes also has its flaws as a measure.
A deeper team with quality players over 24 can get the coaches votes over a promising 21 year old.
A team with fewer over 24 yr olds performing at a high standard means it’s easier for the under 24’s to get coaches votes.
Again to point to hawks, they don’t have a lot of high end senior players to claim coaches votes and keep young players out. (This doesn’t mean hawks don’t have some good youth etc inthink they r got a fairly decent base to build off of)
Port has 2 22 year olds that just made all-aus and I’ll be shocked if they’re both not top 10 in the Brownlow.
Butters is worth way more than several lower quality young players and I wonder whether your collection of data represents this.
I would be interested to see what sum points value you came up with for butters and what players across the league match up against him value wise by your metrics.
Is that something you can show us?
Admittedly it would be very hard to balance everything and get it perfect.
After the finals conclude, I'll provide a summary of each team's performance, explaining their rankings. This will delve into greater detail concerning individual players. I aim to offer a more comprehensive response then.
Addressing your comments about Port Adelaide briefly: they rank 1st for Coaches Votes, earning the full 18 points. For Player Ratings total and Supercoach, they're positioned 8th (scoring 11 points for both), 7th for Supercoach player average (gaining 12 points), but only 10th for Player Ratings average.
In the YTR (Youth Team Rankings), Port stands at 6th. They're unique in being the sole team from the ladder's top four to appear among the top twelve in the YTR.
It's indeed noteworthy when a young team with a strong youth emphasis competes for the flag, which is essentially what Port is undertaking at the moment.
In 2019, Port Adelaide soared to as high as 3rd place with 68 points. This suggests that they should be contenders currently, considering there's typically a three-year progression.
Cats won a premiership last year with an old list, not surprising there fall offVic based media need to read this apparently freo were the biggest disappointment of 2023 not cats or dogs, apparently hawks were a success with 3 less wins because they’re young and lack experience
Freo didn’t really drop as far as it seems or as far as Geelong. 15th - 5th we’re all very even and only a few wins or close games separating them. There is a clear top 4, the rest making up the numbers and couldn’t make that step up. Only a team from the top 4 is winning the flag.Cats won a premiership last year with an old list, not surprising there fall off
Dogs have copped it in Vic big time and they dropped from 8th to 9th
Freo made a semi final and got a big off season recruit and dropped to the bottom 6.
Easily Freo had the biggest drop and most disappointing season. But progress isn't always linear, look at our 2019 season for instance
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Freo Wins Back-to-Back
Fremantle tops the Team Youth Rankings (YTR) for the second consecutive year, accumulating 82 points. Last year, they garnered 81 points. In 2021, they secured second place with 77 points, and in 2020, they claimed third with 66 points.
The 82 points Freo scored this year are impressive. It matches the Dees' score in 2018 when they were ranked first in the YTR, three years prior to clinching the premiership.
Hawks Drop to Fourth
Despite ranking in the top two throughout the season, the last two rounds led to their fall to fourth position, overtaken by the Suns (2nd) and the Swans (3rd). North's recent victory proved invaluable, not just for the first pick in the draft, but also for propelling them two places up, from 7th to 5th.
Beveridge in the Doghouse
For Dogs supporters, the rankings might appear perplexing. After achieving first place in the YTR with 86 points in 2016 (the second-highest score ever, surpassed only by GWS's 89 points in 2015) – the year they took home the flag – they have now plummeted to the bottom of the rankings this year, following their absence from the finals. It's challenging to pinpoint the exact cause, but one thing is clear: Luke Beveridge might have missed the mark this time.
Personally I was most disappointed in Freo this season. Didn't expect much from cats or dogs, but was expecting a big year for the dockers.Vic based media need to read this apparently freo were the biggest disappointment of 2023 not cats or dogs, apparently hawks were a success with 3 less wins because they’re young and lack experience
No doubt but you don’t get paid to research and talk footy so you might of not been aware we were going to be in the btm 4 for age/experience and lost 5 from our best 25 and had 3 come in which take time to gel.some pundits had cats for the flag and freo just making the 8 then turn Around and say freos 10 wins (2.5 wins out of the 8) was more disappointing then cats fall out of the finals with pretty much the same team that won a flag the year before.Personally I was most disappointed in Freo this season. Didn't expect much from cats or dogs, but was expecting a big year for the dockers.
Nah fair enough.No doubt but you don’t get paid to research and talk footy so you might of not been aware we were going to be in the btm 4 for age/experience and lost 5 from our best 25 and had 3 come in which take time to gel.some pundits had cats for the flag and freo just making the 8 then turn Around and say freos 10 wins (2.5 wins out of the 8) was more disappointing then cats fall out of the finals with pretty much the same team that won a flag the year before.